fenrir Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 Time for a suggestion not about AC. (let me know if this has been suggested before but) How about a thread where people can post what they're looking for in a rp' date=' and Rp owners or people who share their interests can see this and discuss and plan something over Pm? Sort of a Rp Wanted/Request list.[/quote'] I've been suggested this already. If more support's given, I'd be more than happy to implement it. Something like that would be pretty awesome, actually, if it could be used as a kind of public brainstorming for RPs. For example, you could get people looking for certain RPs, RP owners that are looking for ways to bulk up their plot, maybe someone interested in making an RP whose' wondering what the current demand for an RP of that sort is around here... that kind of thing. Eh. Y'know what, I don't think Shady will be upset if I make one, so I'll do it now. =D This sounds promising~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.WHAM Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 wow i had an idea to something like that ah well itd be nice to see when will it be up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horologia Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Puh... Since Basic were forbidden the rp sector isn´t that active any more... Of course, there are still a few good ones, but nothing comparing to the old times... -_- Maybe we shall allow it again, only without post count? This would also give other people a chance to rp, and HEY! This forum is about fun, or? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skuldur Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 If you want to RP without a postcount then go to the Games section. It's been done before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umbra Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Puh... Since Basic were forbidden the rp sector isn´t that active any more... Of course' date=' there are still a few good ones, but nothing comparing to the old times... -_-[/quote'] You joined two months ago. Your opinion about "old times" lacks validity. If you look back at the earliest days of the forum, you'd find that RPs were not as fast as what you're used to. Take a minute, just read them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Pennar Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 Puh... Since Basic were forbidden the rp sector isn´t that active any more... Of course' date=' there are still a few good ones, but nothing comparing to the old times... -_- Maybe we shall allow it again, only [b']with 2 Sentences minimum per post[/b]? This would also give other people a chance to rp, and HEY! This forum is about fun, or? Also Old Times >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deucalion Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 If you think speed take priority over quality, I question why you RP. The only value of increased speed over increased quality, is a higher rate of post count gain, and if you are only in role-playing for the post count, then you shouldn't really be role-playing. "Now" is infinitely superior to the "old times", regardless of what nostalgia tells you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horologia Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 0_0 Okay, okay...Sorry for trying to improve things... Wont do this once again! True i registered only two months ago, but even in this short timespan i saw the change. If i set up a new rp, i know before who will join it, cause they are the only people who get along with advanced clause... There are not many new rp´ers since judgement day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Pennar Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 If you think speed take priority over quality' date=' I question why you RP. The only value of increased speed over increased quality, is a higher rate of post count gain, and if you are only in role-playing for the post count, then you shouldn't really be role-playing. [b']"Now" is infinitely superior to the "old times"[/b], regardless of what nostalgia tells you. OBJECTION! Old times are still far greater than now because in the old times, There were many surprises about who joined RPs, and regardless of that, I can still Awe them with my RPing, Giving them 2 choices, 1. Hate me, and 2. Try to become as good as me.... The mods in this section, and a Large amount of advanced RPers, although they might be better than me to a degree, But Compared to me, They are snot-nosed Elitists that don't give a SH!T about everyone else..... And Horo is right, There haven't been any new RPers since Judgment day, There never will, and the only way that this place will go is down the drain as many of us Leave.... If you cannot Take my words, You better get ready for the Harsh truth, because it will hit you so hard that you feel like you kissed a freight train EDIT: Now for the Part that isn't Bolded.... I RPed in Advanced RPs and find that they die out much, Much faster than Basic ones....... Also, True RPers RP with both Speed and Quality, Not one or the other.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umbra Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 It all depends on what you consider "old times". Back before the Advanced Clause was even needed and a quality was maintained - 2007 to early 2008 - was infinitely better than let's say earlier this year. Even now we're only barely scratching the surface of what used to be. YCM has been better at Roleplaying than right now, but we have also been worse - for too long. Flandre, you're a good-for-nothing roleplayer if you think speed actually improves anything. Speed means lack of effort, and lack of effort means lack of quality. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Roleplaying isn't for everyone. No, it's not elitist. It's merely common sense, for the same reason that everyone doesn't play professional football or any other sport - they're just not good enough. If you think the "Advanced" Clause is elitist, you're terribly, terribly mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Pennar Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 Flandre' date=' you're a good-for-nothing roleplayer[/b'] if you think speed actually improves anything. Speed means lack of effort, and lack of effort means lack of quality. @ Bold: It takes one to know one, You and i were once noobs at it too @ The Rest of this quote: Like most of everyone, You cannot understand what i say, I Said True RPers RP with both Speed and Quality YCM has been better at Roleplaying than right now' date=' but we have also been worse - for too long. [/quote'] And it will get much worse. Is This Forum about fun, Or am i missing out on a word that there is a Contest for the Best RPing Forum? I've said it before' date=' and I'll say it again: Roleplaying isn't for everyone. No, it's not elitist. It's merely common sense, for the same reason that everyone doesn't play professional football or any other sport - they're just not good enough. If you think the "Advanced" Clause is elitist, you're terribly, terribly mistaken.[/quote'] Not allowing people to Train to do something is Elitist. From what i see, There aren't exactly any Teaching RPs Isn't there(Although I'm thinking of Making one soon). My Presence in RPs often Inspires people to do better..... In addition, limiting/Banning one thing for everyone except a particular group is also what makes up Elitism, The Advanced clause Limits Most others from RPing, while Some of us are unaffected by it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lugia61617 Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 ^^^^^I completely agree with everything which Flandre has been saying. I was to an extent inspired by some of his RP posts and works, and also find the advanced clause (and its full engagement on Judgement Day) is Elitist. In fact, it has actually driven me to leave the RP section since I'm tired of all the restrictions. And some people enjoyed my RPing, even if I would make mistakes now and then, or not have much to say. Many of my friends have gotten agrier and angrier with RPing, an fanfics are too much like a chore to bother with - but now RPs are like fanfics with heavy restrictions and no training for all of our newest members. I know roleplays which die out quickly, but as Flandre said, advanced ones die very fast. (I don't join them so much as read them). So, in conclusion, I'm tired of arguing with mods over this topic and it makes me groan. I haven't got any reason to stay on YCM since my only sustaining love of this site is being drained, so...there. That's all I can say, really. I just am fed up of the changes in this section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydra of Ages Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 I'm honestly very confused. I really haven't seen much of a change in RP quality. The only difference is that the Basic RPs now call themselves Advanced without any real change and occasionally get locked once in a blue moon. I get the feeling it's more difficult to lock RPs for breaking Advance Clause when its mandatory rather than when its optional, as now people have no alternative and will whine and complain much more because of that. Also... I'm sorry, I'm an amateur professional Debater, and my head hurts at the logical falsities in just this last page. First off, 1. People, stop using subjective words like "Better". It's impossible to make a point based on, "The RP forum was better at so-and-so time", because it's impossible to prove what "Better" is. "More Active", "More Advanced in writing quality", and "Less Spammy" can be used, but please don't use "Better". 2. False statistics... really, do I even have to explain this one? It doesn't even matter that there aren't any ACTUAL statistics listed (though I'm waiting for someone to say, "Welll, 80% of members hate Advanced Clause" or something to that effect. If you don't have examples ready or methods to prove what you're saying, broad, sweeping statements like "There are no new RPers" or "All the new RPs die within the first week", or "In the Past, ever RP finished and everyone loved it" are just as bad, or even worse. Those main two just bug me. Basically, my entire opinion on Mandatory Advanced can be summed up in a sentence- "Don't care as long as those Machine-Gun post RPs that grow fifty thousand pages in a day stop shoving my RP off the page" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umbra Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 Flandre' date=' you're a good-for-nothing roleplayer[/b'] if you think speed actually improves anything. Speed means lack of effort, and lack of effort means lack of quality. @ Bold: It takes one to know one, You and i were once noobs at it too @ The Rest of this quote: Like most of everyone, You cannot understand what i say, I Said True RPers RP with both Speed and Quality YCM has been better at Roleplaying than right now' date=' but we have also been worse - for too long. [/quote'] And it will get much worse. Is This Forum about fun, Or am i missing out on a word that there is a Contest for the Best RPing Forum? I've said it before' date=' and I'll say it again: Roleplaying isn't for everyone. No, it's not elitist. It's merely common sense, for the same reason that everyone doesn't play professional football or any other sport - they're just not good enough. If you think the "Advanced" Clause is elitist, you're terribly, terribly mistaken.[/quote'] Not allowing people to Train to do something is Elitist. From what i see, There aren't exactly any Teaching RPs Isn't there(Although I'm thinking of Making one soon). My Presence in RPs often Inspires people to do better..... In addition, limiting/Banning one thing for everyone except a particular group is also what makes up Elitism, The Advanced clause Limits Most others from RPing, while Some of us are unaffected by it 1 - I'm saying that Post Quality trumps Speed in every possible way, and should therefore be prioritized. I understand fully what you're saying - I'm just disagreeing with you. And yes, everyone was once a newb, but that doesn't mean they should stay that way. 2 - There's a difference between roleplaying and making a few sentences that resemble dialog. I wasn't aware that there was a competition for Worst RP forum either, but you seem eager to win that one. 3 - People are always free to make Teaching roleplays, as long as the RP actually is used for teaching and not as an excuse to violate the Clause. 4 - This "particular group" you speak of makes up most of humanity - someone who can write four sentences while staying in character and expand upon what has been said oearlier. In other words, partake in a discussion interesting them and being able to add something to it. It's only elitist if the target actually requires being excellent at something rather than just good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bury the year Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 Basically' date=' my entire opinion on Mandatory Advanced can be summed up in a sentence- "Don't care as long as those Machine-Gun post RPs that grow fifty thousand pages in a day stop shoving my RP off the page"[/quote'] Personal interest? Works for me. That's one of the major reasons that I've felt the forum's gone down the tubes; the thread turnover is astronomically high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydra of Ages Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 ...3 - People are always free to make Teaching roleplays' date=' as long as the RP actually is used for teaching and not as an excuse to violate the Clause.... [/quote'] Non-mods are allowed to make Teaching RPs? Holy crap, I didn't actually know that. Hm... Now I'm considering making one. Basically' date=' my entire opinion on Mandatory Advanced can be summed up in a sentence- "Don't care as long as those Machine-Gun post RPs that grow fifty thousand pages in a day stop shoving my RP off the page"[/quote'] Personal interest? Works for me. That's one of the major reasons that I've felt the forum's gone down the tubes; the thread turnover is astronomically high. Personal Interest is more or less my only stance on highly controversial decisions. Meh, the unfortunate part of the RP forum is that the very design of it works against it; RPs that have shorter, but more frequent posts will always trump RPs with longer, but more infrequent posts because the former always gets a higher spot on the list than the later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bury the year Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 ...3 - People are always free to make Teaching roleplays' date=' as long as the RP actually is used for teaching and not as an excuse to violate the Clause.... [/quote'] Non-mods are allowed to make Teaching RPs? Holy crap, I didn't actually know that. Hm... Now I'm considering making one. All you need is moderator approval. :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Pennar Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 Basically' date=' my entire opinion on Mandatory Advanced can be summed up in a sentence- "Don't care as long as those Machine-Gun post RPs that grow fifty thousand pages in a day stop shoving my RP off the page"[/quote'] Personal interest? Works for me. That's one of the major reasons that I've felt the forum's gone down the tubes; the thread turnover is astronomically high. Personal Interest is more or less my only stance on highly controversial decisions. Meh, the unfortunate part of the RP forum is that the very design of it works against it; RPs that have shorter, but more frequent posts will always trump RPs with longer, but more infrequent posts because the former always gets a higher spot on the list than the later. That is what i'm trying to say, for one thing, That is why i RP with Both Speed and quality Also on an Off-topic note, I'm starting to think that Umbra thinks i'm an idiot, when i'm really a gifted kid that has Reasonings that are too complex for their Brains to Process, and are Jealous of my own knowledge as those @-Holes at my school are...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenrir Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 Basically' date=' my entire opinion on Mandatory Advanced can be summed up in a sentence- "Don't care as long as those Machine-Gun post RPs that grow fifty thousand pages in a day stop shoving my RP off the page"[/quote'] Personal interest? Works for me. That's one of the major reasons that I've felt the forum's gone down the tubes; the thread turnover is astronomically high. Personal Interest is more or less my only stance on highly controversial decisions. Meh, the unfortunate part of the RP forum is that the very design of it works against it; RPs that have shorter, but more frequent posts will always trump RPs with longer, but more infrequent posts because the former always gets a higher spot on the list than the later. That is what i'm trying to say, for one thing, That is why i RP with Both Speed and quality Also on an Off-topic note, I'm starting to think that Umbra thinks i'm an idiot, when i'm really a gifted kid that has Reasonings that are too complex for their Brains to Process, and are Jealous of my own knowledge as those @-Holes at my school are...... No offense Flandre, but methinks you're stroking your own ego. Besides, you can't tell if you're smarter then someone. Someone could be acting like an idiot, yet it could be a whole ploy to expose others stupidity and ignorance. So you can't tell if you're 'smarter' then others without knowing them better. That aside, I have to agree with pretty much 98% of what Umbra's saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deucalion Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 Considering that Flandre seems to have only the most basic grasp of the complexities of English grammar, I found most of what he/she says to be hypocritical in the extreme. In particular, I find it difficult to believe that anybody would be "in awe" of someone who seems incapable of managing to place capital letters correctly. If we need teaching RPs purely in order to teach people when to use capital letters and apostrophes, then I fear for the educational system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lugia61617 Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 No offense Flandre' date=' but methinks you're stroking your own ego. Besides, you can't tell if you're smarter then someone. Someone could be acting like an idiot, yet it could be a whole ploy to expose others stupidity and ignorance. So you can't tell if you're 'smarter' then others without knowing them better. That aside, [b']I have to agree with pretty much 98% of what Umbra's saying.[/b] Although I'm giving up my case since mods always win regardless, what's the 2% you DON'T agree with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydra of Ages Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 If we need teaching RPs purely in order to teach people when to use capital letters and apostrophes' date=' then I fear for the educational system.[/quote'] Unfortunately, English is only one subject out of many, and few make the connection that it's one of those subjects that should be applied outside the classroom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Pennar Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 Considering that Flandre seems to have only the most basic grasp of the complexities of English grammar' date=' I found most of what he/she says to be hypocritical in the extreme. [b']In particular, I find it difficult to believe that anybody would be "in awe" of someone who seems incapable of managing to place capital letters correctly[/b]. If we need teaching RPs purely in order to teach people when to use capital letters and apostrophes, then I fear for the educational system. The bolded, is a habit that nearly everyone understands, It seems as if you do not understand it, as with most of everyone IRL For the Italics, Most of everyone at my school are idiots, and if they all came on this site and RPed, It, to Rinne, would be the Apocalypse For the Rest of the Quote, I am Being encouraged by my English teacher, as well as being taught new words..... I consider Roleplaying to be like Ice Skating, If you Rush, You Fail, If you focus too much on Quality, it will end badly, but if you Focus on both, you will be a True Skater, Same applies for RPing, If you Rush in your Posts, it will suck, If you focus on quality, it will die out, but if you focus on both, your RP will actually end according to Plot....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deucalion Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 I'm perfectly capable of understanding what you're trying to say, hwoveer, yuo cna pobralby udnretsnad waht I'm tyirng to sya now - that doesn't necessarily mean that it is good English. Rather than question my ability to comprehend your flawed English, you may want to question your own English abilities and attempt to use capitals correctly. You aren't really in any position to talk down the skills of those in your school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Pennar Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 I'm perfectly capable of understanding what you're trying to say' date=' hwoveer, yuo cna pobralby udnretsnad waht I'm tyirng to sya now (However you can probably understand what i'm trying to say now) - that doesn't necessarily mean that it is good English. Rather than question my ability to comprehend your flawed English, you may want to question your own English abilities and attempt to use capitals correctly. You aren't really in any position to talk down the skills of those in your school.[/quote'] I had to fix your intentional bad grammar. Seriously, your attempt to mess with me is pointless. My English abilities are fine, although i realize the caps problem..... [rptrollingftw] at LeSaT i aM nTo lIek tIHs, AdN nAvaR hAeV bEnE Liek TiHs..... [/rptrollingftw] On a side note, as with a competent and Literate Writer, This took about 5 Minutes to type up between the 2 Tags <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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