:: Roleplay Section Improvements Discussion ::

[bury the year]

My suggestion to Rinne was that if it's non-tagged then it's a basic RP.

 

First time I heard that suggestion...

[Hydra of Ages]

I like the large amount of locking. It forces the people to read the rules, which is always a plus.

 

Actually, I think the worst possible thing we could do is treat untagged as Basic. Not only would that piss off everyone with any stake in the debate at all, it would only start the entire storm all over again in a month or two.

[Big Bad Pennar]

^^Which is exactly why i asked for Tagless ones to be treated as Advanced Clause, Which is Basically the Inverse of before Making the Advanced Clause Official, Therefore Everyone can go home happy (I Also hate wars of any kind on Forums)

 

How you say? From a lazy mans perspective, adding a tag is work, so they never want to do it, Then again So is writing in the Advanced Clause, Therefore they Either add a Tag, or RP with the Advanced Clause

[Hydra of Ages]

That would be a lot harder to enforce, though, than simply locking anything without a tag.

 

In my opinion, anyone lazy enough not to check the rules, probably wouldn't be the type of person to RP Advanced anyway. Giving them the benefit of the doubt in that manner would probably just increase the workload on the bunch of mods unnecessarily.

 

Sides', now that the initial mass-locking's over, I figure the rule will become commonplace if we don't meddle for a while. People take the effort to follow the rules, only when they're consistent, and when a punishment is clearly outlined for them.

[Phantom Roxas]

^^Which is exactly why i asked for Tagless ones to be treated as Advanced Clause' date=' Which is Basically the Inverse of before Making the Advanced Clause Official, Therefore Everyone can go home happy (I Also hate wars of any kind on Forums)

 

How you say? From a lazy mans perspective, adding a tag is work, so they never want to do it, Then again So is writing in the Advanced Clause, Therefore they Either add a Tag, or RP with the Advanced Clause

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I find your logic terrible. If people are too lazy to do something as simply as stating whether or not the RP is Advanced, then how do you expect them to keep up with the Advanced Clause?

[Big Bad Pennar]

^^Which is exactly why i asked for Tagless ones to be treated as Advanced Clause' date=' Which is Basically the Inverse of before Making the Advanced Clause Official, Therefore Everyone can go home happy (I Also hate wars of any kind on Forums)

 

How you say? From a lazy mans perspective, adding a tag is work, so they never want to do it, Then again So is writing in the Advanced Clause, Therefore they Either add a Tag, or RP with the Advanced Clause

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I find your logic terrible. If people are too lazy to do something as simply as stating whether or not the RP is Advanced, then how do you expect them to keep up with the Advanced Clause?

 

I find your ability to understand my logic is worse off

 

If we took Sheena's Suggestion, Then Lazy people wouldn't have to do any work to RP using the Basic Clause

 

If we took My suggestion, It is like an Intro to the Tag system for the Lazy people, They would either be forced to RP in the Advanced Clause, or Use the Tag system, Therefore they would have to do some work either way..... and Minimize Locked Topics

[Hydra of Ages]

^^Which is exactly why i asked for Tagless ones to be treated as Advanced Clause' date=' Which is Basically the Inverse of before Making the Advanced Clause Official, Therefore Everyone can go home happy (I Also hate wars of any kind on Forums)

 

How you say? From a lazy mans perspective, adding a tag is work, so they never want to do it, Then again So is writing in the Advanced Clause, Therefore they Either add a Tag, or RP with the Advanced Clause

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I find your logic terrible. If people are too lazy to do something as simply as stating whether or not the RP is Advanced, then how do you expect them to keep up with the Advanced Clause?

 

Your ability to understand my logic is worse off

 

If we took Sheena's Suggestion, Then Lazy people wouldn't have to do any work to RP using the Basic Clause

 

If we took My suggestion, It is like an Intro to the Tag system for the Lazy people, They would either be forced to RP in the Advanced Clause, or Use the Tag system, Therefore they would have to do some work either way..... and Minimize Locked Topics

 

Except everyone who doesn't put a tag is probably doing so because they didn't read the rules.

If they didn't read the rules, they probably aren't going to RP Advanced.

Which would mean they'd get locked anyway. Except locking them would take three times as long, because this time a mod has to personally read through to RP to check the quality instead of locking on sight.

[Otaku-sama]

I've also seen that now with the label system, it shows that the Elite RPers really do not have the majority of the forum. 90% of the RPs in the forum are basic. We should give an incentive for Advanced RPs.

[Skuldur]

The thing is, when people don't have to RP well, they get lazy and make 1 liners.

 

This will become just as it was before the Advanced Clause was implemented as a rule.

[Phantom Roxas]

So, we have two options:

 

1) Keep things as they are, continuing the chaos.

2) RPs without tags are treated as basic, which means:

This will become just as it was before the Advanced Clause was implemented as a rule.

[Otaku-sama]

I believe that we should continue with strong-arm tactics until everyone, even the worst RPers, know and respect the tag system. It's not hard to put a tag. People should be informed better somehow. You should direct any offenders and newcomers to the new rule and the base rules. If they offend again, they are just too lazy for RPing.

[Big Bad Pennar]

@ Otaku-sama: Grand Idea old friend, Lets Educate them every time their RPs break rules.....

 

Off-topic: Is it me, or any RPs i get interested in get locked, and the ones that don't, I get bored of?

[J-Max]

Off-Topic: Probally due to the fact of the One-Liner posts. I would personally hate it if I gave a EPic Speech about exactly what my character is doing and suddenly I get something like "I will kill you" Said Pikachu.

 

I would personally give it a go if people were to RP right with me ^_^

[fenrir]

Off-Topic: Probally due to the fact of the One-Liner posts. I would personally hate it if I gave a EPic Speech about exactly what my character is doing and suddenly I get something like "I will kill you" Said Pikachu.

 

I would personally give it a go if people were to RP right with me ^_^

 

If that's the case, you would want to avoid most, if not all basics and stick to advance RPs.

[Otaku-sama]

We should give some type of incentive for people createing Advanced RPs. Not many people aside from Elites see the benefits of Advanced RPs and for the benefit of attracting all RPers they simply label all RPs basic.

[Horologia]

Urm... I know this dont really fit in this discussion.

But my dream would be a Rp CHAT!

I hate it, when the rp´s just go on when i am offline >_< (Dont could be on all the time!)

So if you chat RPs you may set a time, when RP is going on and everyone could act quickly and post back. This would make RPs much better (my oponion)

Is it possible to make something like this?

[bury the year]

Urm... I know this dont really fit in this discussion.

But my dream would be a Rp CHAT!

I hate it' date=' when the rp´s just go on when i am offline >_

So if you chat RPs you may set a time, when RP is going on and everyone could act quickly and post back. This would make RPs much better (my oponion)

Is it possible to make something like this?

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I have utterly no clue of what you're talking about.

[Guest]

I think that member means something in the ways of a flashchat to discuss when actual rping in a thread would go on

[bury the year]

I think that member means something in the ways of a flashchat to discuss when actual rping in a thread would go on

 

If that's the case, then can't you just get MSN or something?

[SushiTheLegend]

I think that member means something in the ways of a flashchat to discuss when actual rping in a thread would go on

 

If that's the case' date=' then can't you just get MSN or something?

[/quote']

MSN doesn't always work on people's computers, others just dislike MSN as a whole.

[SPA7X]

My idea/problem/rant is based on the new mandatory Advanced Rp'ing rules put place just now and brainstorming on how to fix it fairly. Read at Own Risk

 

I think a major problem with it is how people who are good rp'ers will just generally lose interest having to take all that time to both post a post or to wait for a response from each member, generally causing frustration. It also makes it hard for people who haven't been present for a while, making them have to read through paragraph's of roleplay to eeven continue or pm someone, the later not giving them a completely full grasp on the situation. In shorter words, most people aren't patient enough to go through all the struggle and hassles that come with a mandatory system, and the rp'er pool wil drasticly drop.

 

However, I've come up with some Suggestions for combating this. the first is one that no one seems to make thought of: Making a middle road. Most issues and sides either have one choice, or the other and that leave a vast group unfairly left out. Might I suggest a Intermediate level of rp'ing, that incorperates both the ideals of a meaningful post with that of size freedom? It would prove a much more effeciant system, seeing as people could both rp quickly if they must, and others can still create a good picture and depth in the rp. It's important to note that Rp's, though in a sub-catagory, ARE NOT supposed to be full on fan-fiction novels. That being said their also not supposed to be spam either.

 

To add to my system idea, the amount of Basic and Advanced Rp's should be Limited and Encouraged respectively. Basic rp's should either be limited as to how many you can both join or create, so as to avoid a pitiful RP section. At the same time, Advanced RP's should be largely encouraged, with either awards of boosts in points or reps. On another cite I once was a part of, they had a system were their "Basic" RP's, listen as "just for fun" RP's, were set up so as not to award points or increase post count. Perhaps that could be put into place here?

 

In Conclusion, These Ideas I give are only suggestions. I'm not trying to persuade you to use them, but merely think of them. They may be long and complex, but they combine the best of both systems put into place and will stop both disaster scenerios: Either Disgraceful Rp'ing or A General Decline of Interest. I hope that before forcing a large populace of the RP'ing community to leave, you look over all possible methods of correction. Again, I do not mean to criticze your rules, merely add on to or improve upon them using my own past experiance. If you have taken the time to fully read down to here, I thank you for your interest and time. Rant Over.

[Big Bad Pennar]

I think that member means something in the ways of a flashchat to discuss when actual rping in a thread would go on

 

If that's the case' date=' then can't you just get MSN or something?

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MSN doesn't always work on people's computers, others just dislike MSN as a whole.

 

I could see the Point of a Flashchat.....

 

My idea/problem/rant is based on the new mandatory Advanced Rp'ing rules put place just now and brainstorming on how to fix it fairly. Read at Own Risk

 

I think a major problem with it is how people who are good rp'ers will just generally lose interest having to take all that time to both post a post or to wait for a response from each member' date=' generally causing frustration. It also makes it hard for people who haven't been present for a while, making them have to read through paragraph's of roleplay to eeven continue or pm someone, the later not giving them a completely full grasp on the situation. In shorter words, most people aren't patient enough to go through all the struggle and hassles that come with a mandatory system, and the rp'er pool wil drasticly drop.

 

However, I've come up with some Suggestions for combating this. the first is one that no one seems to make thought of: Making a middle road. Most issues and sides either have one choice, or the other and that leave a vast group unfairly left out. Might I suggest a [b']Intermediate level of rp'ing[/b], that incorperates both the ideals of a meaningful post with that of size freedom? It would prove a much more effeciant system, seeing as people could both rp quickly if they must, and others can still create a good picture and depth in the rp. It's important to note that Rp's, though in a sub-catagory, ARE NOT supposed to be full on fan-fiction novels. That being said their also not supposed to be spam either.

 

To add to my system idea, the amount of Basic and Advanced Rp's should be Limited and Encouraged respectively. Basic rp's should either be limited as to how many you can both join or create, so as to avoid a pitiful RP section. At the same time, Advanced RP's should be largely encouraged, with either awards of boosts in points or reps. On another cite I once was a part of, they had a system were their "Basic" RP's, listen as "just for fun" RP's, were set up so as not to award points or increase post count. Perhaps that could be put into place here?

 

In Conclusion, These Ideas I give are only suggestions. I'm not trying to persuade you to use them, but merely think of them. They may be long and complex, but they combine the best of both systems put into place and will stop both disaster scenerios: Either Disgraceful Rp'ing or A General Decline of Interest. I hope that before forcing a large populace of the RP'ing community to leave, you look over all possible methods of correction. Again, I do not mean to criticze your rules, merely add on to or improve upon them using my own past experiance. If you have taken the time to fully read down to here, I thank you for your interest and time. Rant Over.

 

The Bolded is one i have already thought of <_<, but great plan with the Advanced Rewarding

 

Although I was Thinking of a Basic Clause that RPers must Follow

[fenrir]

My idea/problem/rant is based on the new mandatory Advanced Rp'ing rules put place just now and brainstorming on how to fix it fairly. Read at Own Risk

 

I think a major problem with it is how people who are good rp'ers will just generally lose interest having to take all that time to both post a post or to wait for a response from each member' date=' generally causing frustration. It also makes it hard for people who haven't been present for a while, making them have to read through paragraph's of roleplay to eeven continue or pm someone, the later not giving them a completely full grasp on the situation. In shorter words, most people aren't patient enough to go through all the struggle and hassles that come with a mandatory system, and the rp'er pool wil drasticly drop.

 

However, I've come up with some Suggestions for combating this. the first is one that no one seems to make thought of: Making a middle road. Most issues and sides either have one choice, or the other and that leave a vast group unfairly left out. Might I suggest a [b']Intermediate level of rp'ing[/b], that incorperates both the ideals of a meaningful post with that of size freedom? It would prove a much more effeciant system, seeing as people could both rp quickly if they must, and others can still create a good picture and depth in the rp. It's important to note that Rp's, though in a sub-catagory, ARE NOT supposed to be full on fan-fiction novels. That being said their also not supposed to be spam either.

 

To add to my system idea, the amount of Basic and Advanced Rp's should be Limited and Encouraged respectively. Basic rp's should either be limited as to how many you can both join or create, so as to avoid a pitiful RP section. At the same time, Advanced RP's should be largely encouraged, with either awards of boosts in points or reps. On another cite I once was a part of, they had a system were their "Basic" RP's, listen as "just for fun" RP's, were set up so as not to award points or increase post count. Perhaps that could be put into place here?

 

In Conclusion, These Ideas I give are only suggestions. I'm not trying to persuade you to use them, but merely think of them. They may be long and complex, but they combine the best of both systems put into place and will stop both disaster scenerios: Either Disgraceful Rp'ing or A General Decline of Interest. I hope that before forcing a large populace of the RP'ing community to leave, you look over all possible methods of correction. Again, I do not mean to criticze your rules, merely add on to or improve upon them using my own past experiance. If you have taken the time to fully read down to here, I thank you for your interest and time. Rant Over.

 

The Bolded is one i have already thought of <_<, but great plan with the Advanced Rewarding

 

Although I was Thinking of a Basic Clause that RPers must Follow

 

To be honest, I can't see it happening.

 

Really, what would this level be? It would be great to have it, but what would the rules be?

[Umbra]

I think a major problem with it is how people who are good rp'ers will just generally lose interest having to take all that time to both post a post or to wait for a response from each member' date=' generally causing frustration.

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If you're a good roleplayer, you won't lose interest. If you do lose interest, it's more likely that the plot itself is bad rather than the quality of the grammar being too much of a hassle.

 

It also makes it hard for people who haven't been present for a while' date=' making them have to read through paragraph's of roleplay to eeven continue or pm someone, the later not giving them a completely full grasp on the situation.

[/quote']

This is a lot like skipping to the last chapter of a book just because you can't be bothered to read the entire thing. If you can't access a RP for a while, take 10-15 minutes and read through everything you've missed on. That's what I'd do.

 

In shorter words' date=' most people aren't patient enough to go through all the struggle and hassles that come with a mandatory system, and the rp'er pool wil drasticly drop.

[/quote']

Patience is key. If you can't be patient, then you're not fit for proper Roleplaying.

 

However' date=' I've come up with some Suggestions for combating this. the first is one that no one seems to make thought of: Making a middle road. Most issues and sides either have one choice, or the other and that leave a vast group unfairly left out. Might I suggest a Intermediate level of rp'ing, that incorperates both the ideals of a meaningful post with that of size freedom?

[/quote']

Stop being self-contradictory. The Advanced Clause is not violating the size freedom, you can write as long replies as you want and none will stop you. The minimum requirement, four sentences to a paragraph, can be fulfilled so easily that it shouldn't be a problem, at all.

 

It would prove a much more effeciant system' date=' seeing as people could both rp quickly if they must, and others can still create a good picture and depth in the rp. It's important to note that Rp's, though in a sub-catagory, ARE NOT supposed to be full on fan-fiction novels. That being said their also not supposed to be spam either.

[/quote']

 

There's no such thing as "I must roleplay quickly." Patience is key, especially in Play-by-Post RPs such as this forum. What you apparently define as "fast" roleplaying, meaning posts that would violate the Advanced Clause, is... well, spam.

 

On another cite I once was a part of' date=' they had a system were their "Basic" RP's, listen as "just for fun" RP's, were set up so as not to award points or increase post count. Perhaps that could be put into place here?

[/quote']

Unfortunately, not even myself as a Super Moderator have the right to create new Forums or disable post count in any forum. That is administrator matters, and I don't see the need anyhow.

In Conclusion' date=' These Ideas I give are only suggestions. I'm not trying to persuade you to use them, but merely think of them. They may be long and complex, but they combine the best of both systems put into place and will stop both disaster scenerios: Either Disgraceful Rp'ing or A General Decline of Interest. I hope that before forcing a large populace of the RP'ing community to leave, you look over all possible methods of correction. Again, I do not mean to criticze your rules, merely add on to or improve upon them using my own past experiance. If you have taken the time to fully read down to here, I thank you for your interest and time. Rant Over.

[/quote']

 

If this causes any members to leave, it simply means that they didn't live up to YCM's new roleplaying standards and therefore are not needed in the section anyhow.

[Guest]

The thing is people, and this is my opinion on the case, this section needs to improve and I'm sick of trying to get the people I RP with to join the site when they just laugh at you guys. I don't want you guys to get laughed at, I want you guys to truely improve and I want it so when you guys do go to other sites to rp you can do so with respect.