Phantom Roxas Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 Cydra' date=' DMoC, Disk and Prem are the only good things with the list[/quote'] So you think RoTA and Decree should be semi limited? I was talking about Roxas' list DAD and JD being Semi'd isn't much, but at least it's a step in the right direction. With Reasoning and Gate Limited, Chimeratech is now pretty much dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samer_13 Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 I am going to miss DMoC. I traded of all of my Cydras before this list came. And Premature Burial i am going to miss as well. Time for me to get a couple of Allures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 This is good, now I'll actually get a good amount of money for my allures :D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 At least now I don't have to waste my time trying to get Disk and DMoC like I was planning. Semi-ing JD and DAD only backs up my prediction that they would die a long a painful death hovering between legality and being banned. It's coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkerai Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 Steps away from computer, finds high building, gets to edge of roof and...decides to play checkers until a new banlist comes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixty Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 At least my DMoC and my Disc don't need to leave my binder now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SephirothKirby Posted August 28, 2008 Report Share Posted August 28, 2008 Konami needs to get their head out of their ass. This just makes me ****ING RAGE. I waited six months, SIX MONTHS, for Judgment, Dad, and CoSR to be Semi'd? Monster Reborn still here, and Allure at 3?! I agree with everything else they did, but I can't say I'm not sore that all of me and my friend's decks are completely worthless (Two Turbos and a deck that had Disk engine, waste of $15) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted August 28, 2008 Report Share Posted August 28, 2008 My friend traded his Disc and Ult Necro Gardna for a Dark Bribe the day before the list was known. Win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizzaman Posted August 28, 2008 Report Share Posted August 28, 2008 I kinda lol'd when I saw DMoC's in perfect condition being sold for under 800 yen.Man, this'll surely make collectors happy, but not us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinobiDark72 Posted August 28, 2008 Report Share Posted August 28, 2008 I kinda lol'd when I saw DMoC's in perfect condition being sold for under 800 yen.Man' date=' this'll surely make collectors happy, but not us.[/quote'] That's like, $7... WOW. Glad I traded My Disk Commander for a Reaper on The Nightmare then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijahrsoto Posted August 28, 2008 Report Share Posted August 28, 2008 why would they ban prem and not rebornreborn is a lot worse than premand why do they keep bringin back breakeri dunno i think theyre just bored Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted August 28, 2008 Report Share Posted August 28, 2008 why would they ban prem and not rebornreborn is a lot worse than prem Arms Hole sound familiar? Brionac sound familiar? and why do they keep bringin back breaker Because they're idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werewolfjedi Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 why would they ban prem and not rebornreborn is a lot worse than prem Arms Hole sound familiar? Brionac sound familiar? and why do they keep bringin back breaker Because they're idiots. i had heard at gencon they brought back breaker because there was going to be some spellcaster support coming in the next set, namely the the spell counter aspect, however that makes me think that he should be baned for the time being, not allowed. anyway, democ getting banned kinda puts a damper on my spellcaster deck that I just got advanced legal, and now he needs to be replaced, but with what is the question, not breaker, i need a big spellcaster, not a small one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 why would they ban prem and not rebornreborn is a lot worse than prem Arms Hole sound familiar? Brionac sound familiar? and why do they keep bringin back breaker Because they're idiots. i had heard at gencon they brought back breaker because there was going to be some spellcaster support coming in the next set' date=' namely the the spell counter aspect, however that makes me think that he should be baned for the time being, not allowed. anyway, democ getting banned kinda puts a damper on my spellcaster deck that I just got advanced legal, and now he needs to be replaced, but with what is the question, not breaker, i need a big spellcaster, not a small one.[/quote'] Dark Red Enchanter might be a decent bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted August 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 How about Chaos Commander Magician, underrated imo http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Chaos_Command_Magician Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werewolfjedi Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 why would they ban prem and not rebornreborn is a lot worse than prem Arms Hole sound familiar? Brionac sound familiar? and why do they keep bringin back breaker Because they're idiots. i had heard at gencon they brought back breaker because there was going to be some spellcaster support coming in the next set' date=' namely the the spell counter aspect, however that makes me think that he should be baned for the time being, not allowed. anyway, democ getting banned kinda puts a damper on my spellcaster deck that I just got advanced legal, and now he needs to be replaced, but with what is the question, not breaker, i need a big spellcaster, not a small one.[/quote'] Dark Red Enchanter might be a decent bet. i don't like dark red, i don't really need the discard power, and I'm using magical maronette, which blows monsters up man eater target style (any and everything.) instead and starts at 2000 regardless of summoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiftbirdman Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 yet another boring ban list...-_-' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 Cybernetic Magician. o.O lol Old vindictive with steroids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 why would they ban prem and not rebornreborn is a lot worse than prem Arms Hole sound familiar? Brionac sound familiar? and why do they keep bringin back breaker Because they're idiots. i had heard at gencon they brought back breaker because there was going to be some spellcaster support coming in the next set' date=' namely the the spell counter aspect, however that makes me think that he should be baned for the time being, not allowed. anyway, democ getting banned kinda puts a damper on my spellcaster deck that I just got advanced legal, and now he needs to be replaced, but with what is the question, not breaker, i need a big spellcaster, not a small one.[/quote'] Dark Red Enchanter might be a decent bet. i don't like dark red, i don't really need the discard power, and I'm using magical maronette, which blows monsters up man eater target style (any and everything.) instead and starts at 2000 regardless of summoning. Yeah, but Magical Marionette can't use his +1 effect instantly when Summoned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 Cybernetic Magician. o.O lol Old vindictive with steroids. No. There is better choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 Im sorry, being a 1 drop capable of destroying any monster in the game except Wicked Avatar in battle is a bad choice. Maybe Neo the magic swordsman than? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 Im sorry' date=' being a 1 drop capable of destroying any monster in the game except Wicked Avatar in battle is a bad choice. Maybe Neo the magic swordsman than?[/quote'] Caius is better, drop's one without the cost. Assuming that Cybernetic will drop more than one monster while it's on the field is wishful. End of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 Your right, You asking for replacement for your spellcaster deck, a deck that uses spellcasters, im sorry i didn't insist on a fiend. Next time ill try harder, oh and i forgot your going for a quick fix solution over an under rated otk card. Again, my bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 In this topic, Nate is a theme-slave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Godbot Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 lol' date=' I'm sorry but Banning Prem and keeping Reborn isn't going to help at all. Breaker is good back at one, I never understood the whole problem with him. Cyber Dragon at 1? I laugh at the poor people who fought hard to get a Cyber End Dragon.[/quote'] Arms Hole + Prem > MR. Also, Prem. Burial will help cards like Zombiecarrier and other. CyDra At One Is Gay No' date=' it is not gay. It is good. Because CyDra's gonna also help Synchros which will increase the number of idiots like Star whining about it. ] Yeah, it should be at 0. It's good that Premature was banned before Monster Reborn (although both should be banned). No, they shouldn't be banned. And it shouldn't be at 0. There must be good cards to help and support, and there must be staples, or all decks will become stupid and puny made "for fun". Live up to the Meta. Besides, if you really hate CyDra to 0-it then can I understand why is your so-called signature has pictures of the Cybernetic archetype? Because seriously if you use that archetype without CyDra, you can go rape a goat. What's the point of Breaker if there's no Premie?! Existence of spell cards. MR? Allure? Vortex 3 x Allures? >_> Won't really change a thing. ]Considering that GBs are stilll untouched' date=' methinks this list needs a rewrite. Both LS and DaD were affected, so why shouldn't GB be? Anything but Gyzarus @ 2.[/quote'] They shouldn't be touched because that wouldn't do any change. And Gyzarus @ 2 is one more stupid thing for them to do. It's a fusion after all. ]Cyber Dragon should be banned as well as the Cyber Dragon fusions. As should be your existence or maybe just the fact that you play YGO and make crappy GFX. ]Is that supposed to be sarcasm? No' date=' but you'd deserve sarcasm if you knew what it means. Stop your stupidity. ]Lol. Tricky is a -1. Cyber Dragon is a 2100 attack monster that can be Special Summon for no cost. Tricky might be a -1, but CyDra needs +1 for your opponent to summon, to maybe increase your field advantage. Both can be the same valued, depending on your hand and field. Again, stop your stupidity before I kill somebody tonight. why do they have to ban cards in the first place i mean come on! Because they want balance in gameplay. They want to show some people you're a n00b and some other people are not. LimitedBreaker the Magical Warrior- Im fine with this. Really i dont believe this will see much playCyber Dragon- Good for obvious reasons but should be bannedMonster Gate- I really dont understand thisReasoning- I really dont understand this CyDra shouldn't be banned' date=' after all just 1 might be more of "OMG I TOPDECKED".Breaker will see much play, there are other spells in the game than Prem. Get over it.Monster Gate and Reasoning = Hello Synchro Support. Hello Tuners. Hello D-Heroes. Hello Neos. Semi LimitedCard of Safe Return- Pointless, although does do a little bit to zombies because CoSR is their only draw engineChain Strike- Why wasnt this made unlimited?Dark Armed Dragon- Pointless, DAD deck has most draw power of any deck, losing one DAD makes no differenceJudgment Dragon- Pointless, LS have the best reverse toolbox thus losing 1 JD makes no differenceNobleman of Crossout- This should really be unlimitedPhantom of Chaos- Should be bannedRescue Cat- Pointless here, better in OCG CoSR: With Zombiecarrier arriving, CoSR is going to be a boom in Meta. Semi-limiting it before that happening is better.Chain Strike: Chain Strike fires for a new Pre-Meta. Just chain it and boom 800 damage.DAD: DaD decks don't have most of the draw power. Pfft. Allure and what else? Veil? Beginning? OK. See Zombies, Zombiecarrier and oh, D-Heroes OMFG. DAD > D-Heroes? >_> Go rape a goat.JD: You're right there.Nobleman: Not really... Semi-Limiting it is the best choice. Phantom of Chaos: Go rape a goat. You say something about this and not Prisma? -.-Cat: OMFG. Cat is like, good for 2 reasons now. All Beast fusions, synchros and field advantage are for it now. Plus, we aren't too far from coming of Airbellum. Plus, Cat can help big time in Chaos Neos. No Longer LimitedAllure of Darkness- GoodDestiny Hero - Malicious- GoodLight and Darkness Dragon- GoodMage Power-GoodReinforcement of the Army- Good' date=' its seeing less play nowadays, however i doubt people will run all 3Royal Decree- Good [/quote'] Good for Mali, yes. Good for LaDD, yes. You're mostly right here. But, ROTA is a key card, because every deck that runs Prisma/Stratos (including GB) uses it. They just put Malicious at 3' date=' and left Instant Fusion at 3. Your theory fails. [/quote'] So does yours. Because without Commander now, wants for someone to use D. Draw in a meta have decreased. Yeah' date=' I don't think that Synchros have anything to do with the banlist. Everyone seems to think they're better than Dark Armed Dragon, but they haven't even show what they can do yet.[/quote'] Brionac, Dragon of the Frozen RealmGoyo GuardianStardust DragonRed Dragon ArchfiendAlly of Justice Catastor Look up those. Then talk. And don't say "Synchros have nothing to do with the banlist". Because, you idiot, it's mostly based on them. What else...I'm confused' date=' since when were Monster Gate and Reasoning a significant problem to the point where they should both be limited? [/quote'] Monster Gate and Reasoning aren't significant to much of you YCMers. But come to the fact, they can cost crisis, and increasingly after Synchros have come. personally i wouldnt even deck cydra in a synchro deck :S You wouldn't' date=' you shouldn't. You shouldn't even play the game. ]Overload Fusion needs to stay at 1 because of Labyrinth Tank. That thing has 2400 ATK! You're provoking me to kill someone tonight. ]Shouldn't Cyber Dragon' date=' Cyber Twin Dragon, Cyber End Dragon, Chimeratech Fortress Dragon, and Chimeratech Overdragon be banned so we can have 3 Future Fusion and 3 Overload Fusion?[/quote'] Stop. Stop. STOP LIVING. STOP PLAYING. Rape a goat. That thing, don't stop in it. This is a seriously lol list. CCV is still legal. Gyzarus is still legal. DAD was only semi-ed' date=' yet they go and ban DMoC? I'm not saying hat he doesn't deserve to be banned, he certainly does, it's just funny that he gets hit before these other cards that are so much more broken. [/quote'] You are a lol person. CCV was always legal and yet you complain about it NOW. Gyzarus isn't like going to be changing anything if it was Semi'd. HA! Your insecurities lead you to main deck Cydra in your latest Zombie Syncro deck! NOW YOU MUST SAY IT! ADMIT IT! "Cydra is the best card for what it is supposed to do' date=' mabey a little cheesy, but still and okay card." MAW HA HA HA, GWA CHI CHI CHI, FU FU FUUUUU![/quote'] Rape a goat. Fusion Substitutes' date=' Proto CyDra, Prisma + Reborn. [/quote'] You made my day. Intelligent combo I use, identified by an intelligent person. Cydra' date=' DMoC, Disk and Prem are the only good things with the list [/quote'] Not to forget' date=' Malicious too. [/quote'] Made my day again. They unlimited Allure... That's gonna be major. Not really. DAD and JD being Semi'd isn't much' date=' but at least it's a step in the right direction. With Reasoning and Gate Limited, Chimeratech is now pretty much dead.[/quote'] Also SS, Neos and Dasher, and Synchro-was-gonna-be-Gate-meta. Konami needs to get their head out of their ass. This just makes me ****ING RAGE. YOU need to. They have actually tried their best and made the best actions to serve both the OCG and TCG right. You should really stop complaining over everything such a huge company does about CCG banlists. My friend traded his Disc and Ult Necro Gardna for a Dark Bribe the day before the list was known. Win. Indeed. Arms Hole sound familiar? Brionac sound familiar? Made my day. Nate12345 Wrote: Cybernetic Magician. o.O lol Old vindictive with steroids. No. There is better choices. E.g. Gadgets There are* ----------------------------- Personal Comments: The list isn't as bad as most people think. It's actually a pretty good attempt from Konami to equalize between the TCG and the OCG' date=' and the list will still make people use Metas and unuse some. It's like all of the lists, and all people will adjust to it. Advice next time, don't whine and jabroni about something that cannot be changed and that is repeated.[*']Stop playing IRL more than trying OCG and DMU and etc, that will make you understand the game and a lot and find out the hidden positives instead of burying your head in the sands of TCG and buying CCG pieces of paper for hundreds of bucks.Making decks outside of the Meta atmosphere is good, but stop the ideas that make you believe Meta is harsh and ruins the game, and that good, helpful cards should be banned or exterminated. No, in fact, a lot of players will really know that it's good to exist and will always exist after they try playing professionally and use their minds in the game.Kill Star and his moderator status for the forum's good. He seems unintelligent, and not professional enough in YGO to be a mod of its unofficial forums, and his GFX pretty much sucks for a GFX mod, or in fact, for a GFX artist in general.Sorry to quote people harshly, and you know debate is debate, but don't take things aggressively. -- Sincerely,A Real YGO Player (and NOT duelist, because duelist is only for anime, misters) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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