Dad Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 Probably been done, but a friend issued this challenge. I personally think I have the clear advantage with mah Charizard, but what do you think? Charizard: Heat WaveDragon ClawFlyEarthquake ~Kenpachi Zaraki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazer Yoshi Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 Charizard is probably the best Fire Type ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Posted August 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 I agree. He's just plain old-school kick @$$. ~Ken-chan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Instinct Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 My Charizard's not that good so I think my Blaziken's better. Bulk UpFire PunchAerial AceRock Smash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angel_of_darkness Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 Yeah, and he has ground moves. Original reigon's way better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neiko Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 Earth>FireFly>Fighting so yeah i think your charizard wins... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Posted August 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 Heh, looks like this will be easier than I thought. Any body wanna challenge that? I'll be gettin mah D/P back soon, and Charizardy (lol) is on it so. . . . ~Ken-chan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neiko Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 Your Charizard has the same Moves as mine lol. They can fight to the death :twisted: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Posted August 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 Hmm, I gets back soon. I will pm you challenge yes? I look forward to it. Anymore votes? ~Ken-chan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tiger Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 My Charazard is better ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Posted August 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 Yes, a challenge! Care to post your moveset? And how'd you vote over the two? ~Ken-chan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 1, Charizard is far from one the best Fire types. The best are Heatran, Infernape, and Ho-oh. 2, The move sets I've seen aren't that good. A good move set for Charizard is~ Belly Drum ~ Fire Punch ~ Earthquake ~ Substitute 3, Charizard wins because it is faster and has access to moves that can hit Blazikan with super effective hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zexaeon Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 Actually Blaziken is faster. And he can use Stone Edge, which is 4x effective against Charizard's Fire/Flying combo. Combine that with Blaziken's attack power, compared against Charizard's defense power, and you've got yourself a winner. Also: =Flame Dragon]1, Charizard is far from one the best Fire types.The best are Heatran, Infernape, and Ho-oh. Heatren is not that great - his type combination is too easy to kill, especially since Earthquake can be learned by so many. Infernape is basically Blaziken with a different statistical spread, and yes, Ho-Oh is very good. But unless you're playing an uber fight, you'll look like a noob for using Ho-Oh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Posted August 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 I'm a FireRed man mahself, so I only just transfered Charizard over to Diamond. Maybe once I really get into it, and learn more strategies and such, I'll play some of you, lol. ~Ken-chan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazenz Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 charizard seems to be the best choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zexaeon Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 ^_^ I look forward to challenging you, Kenpachi. Beware my awesome strategies (lol) But seriously, as cool as I think Charizard is, I still have to be honest - Blaziken would beat him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 Blaziken FTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Satanic- Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 Blaziken is way better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 Actually Blaziken is faster. And he can use Stone Edge' date=' which is 4x effective against Charizard's Fire/Flying combo. Combine that with Blaziken's attack power, compared against Charizard's defense power, and you've got yourself a winner.[b']Since when did a pokemon with a base speed of 80, out run one with a base speed of 100.[/b]Also: =Flame Dragon]1, Charizard is far from one the best Fire types.The best are Heatran, Infernape, and Ho-oh. Heatren is not that great - his type combination is too easy to kill, especially since Earthquake can be learned by so many. Infernape is basically Blaziken with a different statistical spread, and yes, Ho-Oh is very good.Charizard is 4x weak to rock, which is important since Stealth Rock is almost always set up in competitive play. Besides Heatran's typeing gives him a bunch of resistances, and since the only real way to kill it is Earthquake you can just switch to a Flying pokemon, or one with levitate. Infernape beats Blaziken because it is alot faster and has a better move pool. But unless you're playing an uber fight, you'll look like a noob for using Ho-Oh.True, but I had to bring him up as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zexaeon Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 True, Charizard has higher base speed, but in competitive play, many people give Charizard a nature that works for his power rather than speed, where many Blaziken users like to give Blaziken speed-boosting Natures and EVs. I know, it sounds like a stupid move in theory, but it's what I see all the time - Charizard being shamelessly outrun by Pokemon that SHOULD be slower. As for Heatren, while it is true that Stealth Rock is active a lot, I still cannot agree with taht type match-up. Too many pokemon can use EQ for him to perform safely, and yes, while you can switch to a flyer or a levitater, that just puts you in danger from your opponent's stealth rocks, since they're just as likely to be using it as you are. Now don't get me wrong - I didn't say Blaziken was BETTER than Infernape. I'm just saying that Infernape essentially IS Blaziken, but the stat spread switched around. As you said, he's faster for one thing. And yes, he does have a better move pool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaara The Sand Demon 540 Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 I think Blaziken... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxlord Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 Blaziken is type fightingCharizard is type flying Hmmm I wonder no crap its Charizard... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slash Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 In a battle between Charizard and Blaziken, with Charizard having the moves yours has, Charizard would own Blaziken..... =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 True' date=' Charizard has higher base speed, but in competitive play, many people give Charizard a nature that works for his power rather than speed, where many Blaziken users like to give Blaziken speed-boosting Natures and EVs. I know, it sounds like a stupid move in theory, but it's what I see all the time - Charizard being shamelessly outrun by Pokemon that SHOULD be slower.[b']Actually, most EV spreads I've seen for Charizard are speed boosting. Nature wise most will increase Speed or attack, but never lower speed. I do agree with you that it is possible for Blaziken to out run Charizard since before I found out about EVs, my Blaziken was just a hair slower than my Charizard[/b]As for Heatren, while it is true that Stealth Rock is active a lot, I still cannot agree with taht type match-up. Too many pokemon can use EQ for him to perform safely, and yes, while you can switch to a flyer or a levitater, that just puts you in danger from your opponent's stealth rocks, since they're just as likely to be using it as you are.Very true, but he still makes a great counter to most Choice item holder. Also, don't forget that some of the key pokemon that can do well in standard play have 4x weaknesses as well.Now don't get me wrong - I didn't say Blaziken was BETTER than Infernape. I'm just saying that Infernape essentially IS Blaziken, but the stat spread switched around. As you said, he's faster for one thing. And yes, he does have a better move pool.I agree 100%. Guess I misinterpreted what you said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desu the Blue Nerd Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 I like Blaziken better. Of course. I don't have diamond anymore though because I'm pretty sure I sold it but I do have Revolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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