Tabris Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 One of the greatest minds in Pojo's history unveiled this list a while back: ADVANCED FORMAT LIST CURRENT I. Banned Cards You cannot use these cards in your Deck or Side Deck: ALL-OUT ATTACKSARCANA FORCE XXI - THE WORLDBREAKER THE MAGICAL WARRIORBLACK LUSTER SOLDIER - ENVOY OF THE BEGINNINGBUTTERFLY DAGGER - ELMACALL OF THE HAUNTEDCARD OF SAFE RETURNCATHEDRAL OF NOBLESCHANGE OF HEARTCHAOS EMPEROR DRAGON - ENVOY OF THE ENDCHAOS SORCERERCHIMERATECH OVERDRAGONCONFISCATIONCRUSH CARD VIRUSCYBER DRAGONCYBER END DRAGONCYBER JARCYBER TWIN DRAGONCYBER-STEINDARK ARMED DRAGONDARK HOLEDARK MAGICIAN OF CHAOSDELINQUENT DUODECK DEVASTATION VIRUSDEMISE, KING OF ARMAGEDDONDIMENSION FUSIONEMISSARY OF HELL - GORZEVIL HERO DARK GAIAEXCHANGE OF THE SPIRITEXODIA THE FORBIDDEN ONEFIBER JARGRACEFUL CHARITYGREAT MAJU GARZETTHARPIE'S FEATHER DUSTERHEAVY STORMIMPERIAL ORDERJINZOLAST TURNLAST WILLLIFE EQUALIZERLIMITER REMOVALMACHINE DUPLICATIONMAGE POWERMAGICAL EXPLOSIONMAGICIAN OF FAITHMAGICAL SCIENTISTMAKYURA THE DESTRUCTORMIRAGE OF NIGHTMAREMONSTER REBORNMORPHING JARNOBLEMAN OF CROSSOUTPAINFUL CHOICEPOT OF GREEDPOWER BONDPREMATURE BURIALRAIGEKIRETURN FROM THE DIFFERENT DIMENSIONREVERSAL QUIZRING OF DESTRUCTIONSANGANSELF-DESTRUCT BUTTONSINISTER SERPENTSIXTH SENSESKY SCOURGE NORLERASSNATCH STEALSNIPE HUNTERTIME SEALTHE FORCEFUL SENTRYTHOUSAND-EYES RESTRICTTREEBORN FROGTRIBE-INFECTING VIRUSTSUKUYOMIULTIMATE OFFERINGUNITED WE STANDVICTORY DRAGONWAVE-MOTION CANNONWITCH OF THE BLACK FORESTYATA-GARASU //The following cards are banned only for Team Dueling: CEASEFIREFINAL FLAMEJUST DESSERTSMETEOR OF DESTRUCTIONOOKAZIPOISON OF THE OLD MANSECRET BARRELTREMENDOUS FIRE NEW! - All-Out Attacks, Arcana Force XII - The WORLD, Card of Safe Return, Chimeratech Overdragon, Crush Card Virus, Cyber Dragon, Cyber End Dragon, Cyber Twin Dragon, Dark Armed Dragon, Dark Magician of Chaos, Deck Devastation Virus, Demise, King of Armageddon, Emissary of Hell - Gorz, Evil Hero Dark Gaia, Exodia the Forbidden One, Great Maju Garzett, Limiter Removal, Life Equalizer, Jinzo, Machine Duplication, Mage Power, Magical Explosion, Megamorph, Mirror Force, Monster Reborn, Morphing Jar, Nobleman of Crossout, Power Bond, Premature Burial, Return From the Different Dimension, Reversal Quiz, Sangan, Self-Destruct Button, Sky Scourge Norleras, Snipe Hunter, Treeborn Frog, Ultimate Offering, United We Stand, Wave-Motion Cannon II. Restricted Cards You can ONLY use one of the following cards in the Deck & Side Deck combined: CARD DESTRUCTIONCHAIN STRIKEDANDYLIONELEMENTAL HERO STRATOSGREEN BABOON, DEFENDER OF THE FORESTMAGIC CYLINDERMANTICORE OF DARKNESSMARSHMALLONNECROFACENIGHT ASSAILANTSPIRIT REAPERTWIN-HEADED BEHEMOTH NEW! - Manticore of Darkness, Necroface III. Semi-Limited Cards There are no cards semi-limited under this list. NEW! - NEW! - The following cards are no longer Limited: Advanced Ritual Art, Allure of Darkness, Book of Moon, Brain Control, Card Trooper, Ceasefire, D.D. Warrior Lady, Destiny Hero - Disk Commander, Destiny Hero - Malicious, Fissure, Foolish Burial, Future Fusion, Giant Trunade, Gold Sarcophagus, Gravity Bind, Left Arm of the Forbidden One, Left Leg of the Forbidden One, Level Limit - Area B, Light and Darkness Dragon, Magical Stone Excavation, Mask of Darkness, Metamorphosis, Mind Crush, Mystical Space Typhoon, Ojama Trio, Overload Fusion, Neo-Spacian Grand Mole, Raiza the Storm Monarch, Reinforcement of the Army, Right Arm of the Forbidden One, Left Arm of the Forbidden One, Royal Decree, Scapegoat, Smashing Ground, Swords of Revealing Light, The Transmigration Prophecy, Torrential Tribute, Trap Dustshoot, Wall of Revealing Light Also includes OCG exclusives. Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 I dont see the point of limiting manticore with cosr banned. But other than that im liking the fact its elimanted most of the skilless OTK cards aswell as the skilless Reset cards. Im guessing machine dup was banned to allow trooper to return to unlimited. I dont like TT unlimited because it punishes players for setting up a good field. Im also unsure on triple brain control. This looks like the joke list Crab made up ages ago, i could be mistaken though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabris Posted August 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 This looks like the joke list Crab made up ages ago' date=' i could be mistaken though[/quote'] This is not Crab's. This is from Pojo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skuldur Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 great job unlimiting Disk Commander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 ^Nobody would run more than 1 disk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skuldur Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 ^Nobody would run more than 1 disk that's true but i still think he should be banned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabris Posted August 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 ^Nobody would run more than 1 disk that's true but i still think he should be banned It isn't a problem anymore with the lollipop trio (Premature, CotH, Reborn) banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skuldur Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 ^Nobody would run more than 1 disk that's true but i still think he should be banned It isn't a problem anymore with the lollipop trio (Premature' date=' CotH, Reborn) banned.[/quote'] what about limit reverse, angel lift, fear monger( maybe), creator, dark creator, he can still be abused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabris Posted August 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Those require dedication. And the Continuous Traps among them? They've got how many viable targets outside Disk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tin Trooper Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 I don't see Magician of Black Chaos, Light and Darkness Dragon OR Felgrand Dragon up there... YES! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Give me reasons on why Self Destruct Button, Great Maju Garzett, Evil Hero Dark Gaia, Jinzo, Wave Motion Cannon are banned pl0x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabris Posted August 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Let's start from the last. WMC has an effect that is deadly when used in multiples; just plunk down 2 WMC and you get to burn through your opponent's Life Points in 4 turns, assuming you haven't used Just Desserts, Ceasefire, etc., to burn through your opponent's LP. Jinzo is basically Decree with a body - a Monarch-esque body at that. Gaia basically is a modified - indeed, stronger - AOA in a body. GMG = Limiter = Megamorph = ban. Button abuses the mechanic as stated in the card text. More on that later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanther Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 What I don't get is that he banded Exodia's Head but left the other 4 off the list? It acutally takes some skill to use an exodia deck. Mainly to build a good exodia deck :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabris Posted August 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 To the absurdity of having 4 200 ATK 300 DEF Normals on the real list... I puke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Gaia, GMG both encourage OTKs = bad for meta =ban Destruct button punishes players for playing well (i.e. getting the 7000 point gap) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umbra Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Gaia' date=' GMG both encourage OTKs = bad for meta =ban [/quote'] In this post: LolATK justifies banhammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 ' pid='987223' dateline='1219071556']Gaia' date=' GMG both encourage OTKs = bad for meta =ban [/quote'] In this post: LolATK justifies banhammer You just dont get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Gaia' date=' GMG both encourage OTKs = bad for meta =ban Destruct button punishes players for playing well (i.e. getting the 7000 point gap)[/quote'] In most SD decks ive seen, sd doesn't punish any body. Not when the player activating the SD button just used solemn than gift card. o.O I think he wanted to strip the game of all Cheesy Stall tactics and Win conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixty Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 I don't see Magician of Black Chaos' date=' Light and Darkness Dragon OR Felgrand Dragon up there... YES![/quote'] Magician of Black Choas is the ritual. It fails. LaDD is cool. Felgrand... blah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 One of the greatest minds in Pojo's history unveiled this list a while back: Stopped reading here. There's a reason people always say: "Lol Pojo." Because everyone on Pojo, without exception, is stupid. I spent some time on Pojo, and could literally feel my own braincells committing suicide, not wanting to continue reading this crap. In all seriousness though, I can pretty much guarantee it's going to be a terrible list, and since I like keeping my braincells, I'm gonna avoid reading this nonsense, because even the best players on Pojo are depressingly laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 ^ Yes but your forgetting one thing, they are better than most of our players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Digital.Simplicity. Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 not bad list some cards puzzled me a bit as to why there in there but i get them now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Surprisingly, Pojo's one of the better YGO forums. What else is there, TCGPlayer? Pika, you should actually read the list; a few of the card choices seem a little odd, but it's based on largely the same logic that Atem's uses. This is Quiff's list, right? The biggest thing that I don't like about the logic behind the list is that it assumes that requiring support implies balance, and makes pre-emptive strikes against cards "just in case" something comes along that can abuse them (such as by Limiting Manticore with COSR banned). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 It looks like Quiff's old list. It's about 95%-98% solid, with a few oddities. Namely Limiting Manticore with CoSR banned and not banning Disk. Even with Sangan kicking the bucket, there are still many viable, splashable targets for Limit Reverse. Adding in Tuners just totally eliminates the argument of Limit Reverse being a dead draw without Disk in the Graveyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 The World, Great Maju Garzett and Reversal Quiz all can OTK, but it wouldn't be consistent enough to be damaging for the meta. They can be unbanned if you ask me. Why is Machine Duplication banned? Because of Valley? That one needs a limit anyway IMO, but if you don't do that, Machine Duplication still shouldn't be banned. Heavy Storm limited, it's good for the game at one. WMC unlimited, it's slow and inconsistent. I didn't see Royal Magical Library, so I guess this is Quiff's list, and not Nuuuuf's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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