CrabHelmet Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 Over the last six weeks, people seem to have decided that this guy definitely should/will get Limited/banned. I don't get it. Help me out here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 People are talking about limits/bans for Test Tiger, Prisma, Heraklinos and even Bestiari and Darius to stop GBs, while banning Gyzarus is really everything they need to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 Ive already made a topic about this and no it has already been proven that GB dont need test tiger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tickle Me Emo Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 people are saying Test Tiger should be limited/banned are the same people who are saying Allure should be limited/banned. They are just trying to cut off the resources of the decks they are afraid of instead of just banning the real threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted August 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 people are saying Test Tiger should be limited/banned are the same people who are saying Allure should be limited/banned. They are just trying to cut off the resources of the decks they are afraid of instead of just banning the real threat. I think banning Allure of Darkness is reasonable, yet I also favour banning Dark Armed Dragon, Dark Magician of Chaos, Darklord Zerato, Destiny Hero - Disk Commander, and Return from the Different Dimension, so I'm fairly sure that I haven't missed the real threat. In this case, the logic behind eliminating Allure would be that the game needs to slow down, and Allure is by far the most splashable, easy draw card and is the one whose arrival ushered in the game's turbocharged state. In the OCG, PTDN's release didn't have the same effect that it did in the TCG, because the OCG lacked Allure to make the game that fast. Still, it's one of the more borderline cases. But I still don't get the Test Tiger argument. And Limiting Bestiari is doubtlessly the most idiotic plan of them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinobiDark72 Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 Test Tiger is a weird case indeed. A lot of people just jump to conclusions about banning or limiting certain cards in a game dominating deck. Test Tiger being in a game dominating deck makes this statement valid. It should stay unlimited. Ban Gyzarus, the combo for Heraklinos is screwed up and Gladiator beasts see less play and are no longer top-tier. Simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted August 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 This topic is no fun. Somebody, disagree with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tickle Me Emo Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 people are saying Test Tiger should be limited/banned are the same people who are saying Allure should be limited/banned. They are just trying to cut off the resources of the decks they are afraid of instead of just banning the real threat. I think banning Allure of Darkness is reasonable' date=' yet I also favour banning Dark Armed Dragon, Dark Magician of Chaos, Darklord Zerato, Destiny Hero - Disk Commander, and Return from the Different Dimension, so I'm fairly sure that I haven't missed the real threat. In this case, the logic behind eliminating Allure would be that the game needs to slow down, and Allure is by far the most splashable, easy draw card and is the one whose arrival ushered in the game's turbocharged state. In the OCG, PTDN's release didn't have the same effect that it did in the TCG, because the OCG lacked Allure to make the game that fast. Still, it's one of the more borderline cases.[/quote'] Allure shouldnt be banned IMO. Its not a real threat, just a bit of speed. Anyway this is not an Allure discussion, its a Test Tiger discussion so lets get off of Allure. But I still don't get the Test Tiger argument. And Limiting Bestiari is doubtlessly the most idiotic plan of them all. Like I said the people are afraid of Glads, specifically Gyzarus, and are trying to cut its resources instead of just killing the threat itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 People think that Test Tiger is part of the reason GBs are so good, so by their mind set they think that if they kill the Tiger GBs won't be as good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 Test Tiger is a weird case indeed. A lot of people just jump to conclusions about banning or limiting certain cards in a game dominating deck. Test Tiger being in a game dominating deck makes this statement valid. It should stay unlimited. Ban Gyzarus' date=' the combo for Heraklinos is screwed up and Gladiator beasts see less play and are no longer top-tier. Simple as that.[/quote'] Im going to spice this up a little for lulz. Saying X is going to happen if X event happens is in fact false logic. The evidence being that Glad beasts had a premier level event under their belts before gyrazus was released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyfi Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 Good Card Is Good. When I Baught My GLAS Booster Box I Got 2. I Dont Know Either Why It Should Be Banned. Its Fine. Plz Explain To Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinobiDark72 Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 Test Tiger is a weird case indeed. A lot of people just jump to conclusions about banning or limiting certain cards in a game dominating deck. Test Tiger being in a game dominating deck makes this statement valid. It should stay unlimited. Ban Gyzarus' date=' the combo for Heraklinos is screwed up and Gladiator beasts see less play and are no longer top-tier. Simple as that.[/quote'] Im going to spice this up a little for lulz. Saying X is going to happen if X event happens is in fact false logic. The evidence being that Glad beasts had a premier level event under their belts before gyrazus was released. They won a Shounen Jump, that proves they are powerful yes, but it wasn't top-tier than. Dark Armed Return was. I'm saying Test Tiger has nothing to do with Gladiators being top-tier and that Gyzarus was the reason for it and the banning of Gyzarus would not make them top-tier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 Test Tiger is a weird case indeed. A lot of people just jump to conclusions about banning or limiting certain cards in a game dominating deck. Test Tiger being in a game dominating deck makes this statement valid. It should stay unlimited. Ban Gyzarus' date=' the combo for Heraklinos is screwed up and Gladiator beasts see less play and are no longer top-tier. Simple as that.[/quote'] Im going to spice this up a little for lulz. Saying X is going to happen if X event happens is in fact false logic. The evidence being that Glad beasts had a premier level event under their belts before gyrazus was released. They won a Shounen Jump, that proves they are powerful yes, but it wasn't top-tier than. Dark Armed Return was. I'm saying Test Tiger has nothing to do with Gladiators being top-tier and that Gyzarus was the reason for it and the banning of Gyzarus would not make them top-tier. Again you are stating because of X makes X deck top tier. X deck needs a combination of factors to make X a top tier deck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Dinosaur Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 In the OCG' date=' PTDN's release didn't have the same effect that it did in the TCG, because the OCG lacked Allure to make the game that fast. [/quote'] Well with the release of the Extra Pack in September, they'll see the same change we did. They'll also be getting Darklord Zerato in the same pack which will do the same thing as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 TEST TIGER SHOUDL BE BENNED ITS A -1 nah it shouldnt beherk and gyzaraus shoudl be -.- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Test Tiger is abusable on so many levels. Even without Gyzarus. Its one of those cards that loves the Graveyard. I say Ban it or at least Limit it. It can also be searched by Sangan or Rescue Cat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
「tea.leaf」 Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 This topic is no fun. Somebody' date=' disagree with me.[/quote'] CRAB, YOU ARE WRONG. Well, I wouldn't know. I never really looked into/study GB, so I don't know how well they function without Test Tiger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 I've seen GB's function extremely well with Test Tiger. I would love to see them try to work without them. Tiger pretty much puts pretty much every GB in your deck in the palm of your hand. Not only could you get a possibly better monster but you get one that can use an effect that cant normally be used without attacking. It can also be searched by Rescue Cat to further speed up the effect. Correct me if I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 TEST TIGER SHOUDL BE BENNED ITS A -1 nah it shouldnt beherk and gyzaraus shoudl be -.- Fix'd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.:|Fallen|:. Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 People are talking about limits/bans for Test Tiger' date=' Prisma, Heraklinos and even Bestiari and Darius to stop GBs, while banning Gyzarus is really everything they need to do.[/quote']i wont let them ban Heraklinos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizzaman Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Well' date=' I wouldn't know. I never really looked into/study GB, so I don't know how well they function without Test Tiger.[/quote']GB's without Tiger = current situation here. While Synchro DADs have a lot of fire power to cover up for the ounce of consistency problems, GBs are pretty much considered to be the deck that packs a punch and is yet very consistent so it seems to be favored more in casual.Plus they are a whole lot cheaper to build. Super budget deck. Going against GBs right now, the problem is more about getting past Gonzales and Chariot (that, and Chariot being recycled by Equite which gets annoying after a while.)Sure, Test Tiger speeds things up... but I can't imagine anything huge after Extra Pack :/ Man, I really need to go against GBs using Test Tiger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Gyzarus should be banned and Heraklinos should stay where it is. Test Tiger still deserves Limiting in my opinion because it is abuseable on so many levels. Especially with revival cards like Monster Reborn, Limit Reverse, Premature Burial. You can pretty much manipulate your side of the field with it and gain an advantage if you're doing it right. There are also a number of cards that can search it from the deck. Sangan, Rescue Cat just to name a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 without test tiger bg basically have nothing goign for them (on the assumption gyrarauz should be banned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orochi Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 plain simple, people wants test tiger banned/limited to stop glads... because they use konami logic, to ban average or bad cards to keep broken cards running on 3s with the false promise of "slowing down broken decks" people, stop being konamish... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted August 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Test Tiger is abusable on so many levels. Topic is no longer boring. Even without Gyzarus. Y'wot? Its one of those cards that loves the Graveyard. You mean in terms of Limit Reverse? I say Ban it or at least Limit it. What' date=' on the grounds that it's a piece of decent theme support? It can also be searched by Sangan or Rescue Cat. Sangan should be banned. I've seen GB's function extremely well with Test Tiger. I've seen GB's function extremely well with Laquari. Ban Laquari. I would love to see them try to work without them. You saw it at Worlds. Tiger pretty much puts pretty much every GB in your deck in the palm of your hand. Not only could you get a possibly better monster but you get one that can use an effect that cant normally be used without attacking. So often' date=' people restate a card's effect and assume that that counts as a logical argument against that card. It can also be searched by Rescue Cat to further speed up the effect. Correct me if I'm wrong. And, again, how does this make it banworthy? Gyzarus should be banned and Heraklinos should stay where it is. Test Tiger still deserves Limiting Even with the god-boss Gyzarus banned' date=' you'd still want to kill the tiger? in my opinion because it is abuseable on so many levels. And you have yet to: 1) Prove that it can be used in this way.2) Prove that this way of using it constitutes abuse.3) Prove that this "abuse" is somehow bad for the game. Especially with revival cards like Monster Reborn' date=' Limit Reverse, Premature Burial.[/quote'] Two of which are banworthy, and the third of which is a Trap. You can pretty much manipulate your side of the field with it and gain an advantage if you're doing it right. Smashing Ground lets you pretty much manipulate your opponent's side of the field and gain an advantage if you're doing it right. But again' date=' you have yet to show that this is bad for the game. There are also a number of cards that can search it from the deck. Sangan, Rescue Cat just to name a few. Sangan is banworthy. Stop using it as an argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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