Thegargoylevine Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 I think Victory Dragon should be unbanned, because it was a fun card to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skuldur Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 I think Victory Dragon should be unbanned' date=' because it was a fun card to use.[/quote'] LOLZ at unbanning Victory Dragon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jungle Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 Since u can scoop it up before Victory Dragon hits, it's one of the most stupid cards in this TCG just like the other promos with same effect even though they can't be used in duel. ATM we have Gyzarus needing to be limited. With Disk Commander banned Malicious shouldn't really be semied but with Metamorphosis at onetwothree and Level3-Tuner out there, I think he should stay where he is. I've allready proven Mask-Recycle is broken as I played it with 3 Magical Hat, 3 Dark Coffin, 3 The Statue of the Wicked, 3 Reckless Greed and 3 Good Goblin Housekeeping, 3 Solemn Judgment, 1 Crush Card Virus. In a slower Metagame this was like unbeatable, haha. But for real, some cards should stay semied even though I'm a 13133131313-Player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Star Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 I think Victory Dragon should be unbanned' date=' because it was a fun card to use.[/quote'] I think your logic fails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thegargoylevine Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 Oh yeah, like Victory Dragon is very broken, and every Top 8 player runs it in their deck. I can't use it when playing against my friends because they won't agree with using banned cards. They should have a special rule in Tournaments which prevent it's use, but still allow it in formal play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 Since u can scoop it up before Victory Dragon hits' date=' it's one of the most stupid cards in this TCG just like the other promos with same effect even though they can't be used in duel. ATM we have Gyzarus needing to be limited[b'] Here is where i stopped reading[/b]. With Disk Commander banned Malicious shouldn't really be semied but with Metamorphosis at onetwothree and Level3-Tuner out there, I think he should stay where he is. I've allready proven Mask-Recycle is broken as I played it with 3 Magical Hat, 3 Dark Coffin, 3 The Statue of the Wicked, 3 Reckless Greed and 3 Good Goblin Housekeeping, 3 Solemn Judgment, 1 Crush Card Virus. In a slower Metagame this was like unbeatable, haha. But for real, some cards should stay semied even though I'm a 13133131313-Player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jungle Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 How would you handle Gladiator then, limiting Darius? haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 Gladiator is easy to handle, ban gyrazus, limitng a fusion is pointless. It must be at either 3 or 0. Thus it must be a 0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jungle Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 Gladiator is pretty much nothing without Gyzarus. Why would you destroy a whole deck that could just be balanced? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 Oh yeah' date=' like Victory Dragon is very broken, and every Top 8 player runs it in their deck. I can't use it when playing against my friends because they won't agree with using banned cards. They should have a special rule in Tournaments which prevent it's use, but still allow it in formal play.[/quote'] The banlist only applies to officially sanctioned tournaments. Outside of those tournaments, the only rules that apply are those that you and your friends agree on. So yes, they do have a special rule that bars it from use in tournaments without directly impacting anything else - namely, the banlist itself. Since your casual matches with friends are not officially sanctioned tournaments, nothing is forcing you to follow the banlist - unless, of course, you make it a house rule to do so, which you seem to have done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 Gladiator is pretty much nothing without Gyzarus. Why would you destroy a whole deck that could just be balanced? Banning Gyrazus does not destory the deck. Before LoDT galdiators already had 1 Shonen Jump under their belts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jungle Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 Yea that was becuz of Shadow-Imprisoning Mirror with percental 88% dark armed decks in the tournaments and gladiator was one of the unexpected decks besides gadget and monarch that wasn't depending on dark monsters actually. it's easy to deal with 1 Gyzarus using cards such like BTH and he isn't as broken as DAD/JD/... since it's summon cost 2 cards, most of time he's destroyed by chained cards and you can't tag out. means sometimes -1, usually -0, rarely +1/+2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 You have made the old mistake, counterablitiy does not mean balance Also u seem to think card advantages is everything Protip: Its not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 Everything that Jungle posts is solid gold. percental 88% PERCENTAL EIGHTY-EIGHTY PERCENT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jungle Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 I don't think it's all about advantage but I know that a failed Gyzarus usually leaves you with 3 cards in hand and nothing expressive on field. And with Test Tiger at 1 (like I mentioned in my banned) you won't get out Darius fetching up Bestiari before your Battle Phase that often. Plus without Monster Reborn at 1 or Book of Moon at 3 you won't be able to reuse Gyzarus effectively, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 Test Tiger (using Konami Logic) is what is going to be touched by the list. However a failed gyrazus is again implying that counteablitiy means balance which is again incorrect. Most gyrazus summons are done successfully and are usually game winning. Reducing the number to 1 is not viable. It either has to be 0 or 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jungle Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 At this point I'd like to say: "We'll see". If the banned list will be looking whole different than mine, he probably could be banned. In a similar format to mine he wouldn't be a Gamewinner, at most a Gamebreaker that you could adapt yourself to and that wouldn't be bad for the meta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 At this point I'd like to say: "We'll see". If the banned list will be looking whole different than mine' date=' he probably could be banned. In a similar format to mine he wouldn't be a Gamewinner, at most a Gamebreaker that you could adapt yourself to and that wouldn't be bad for the meta.[/b'] What? I dont understand what you are saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 At this point I'd like to say: "We'll see". If the banned list will be looking whole different than mine' date=' he probably could be banned. In a similar format to mine he wouldn't be a Gamewinner, at most a Gamebreaker that you could adapt yourself to and that wouldn't be bad for the meta.[/quote'] A Gamebreaker that wouldn't be bad for the meta? Joke account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jungle Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 In the right format he wouldn't be bad for the meta at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 ^ Thats because he would be banned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ Chidori-Kun Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 Bad and Good calls on this list, but mostly bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jungle Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 We'll see, im out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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