tonisanoob Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 imo i lol at the overratedness of this flip idc if its dark or has 1400 atk its still a flip wich is bad and slow discuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
「tea.leaf」 Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 Well, long ago, in a meta far, far away, it was good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark One Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 Dekoichi is good. Gladiator Beast's dominance makes it far more likely for a monster to be attacked in battle, as their tag-out effects depend on it. Also, it isn't that rare for a face-down monster to go untouched for a turn if your opponent has other targets on your side of the field to deal with. Flipping and tributing isn't that hard to pull off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 Bad card is bad.[/topic] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 In a non competitive deck it is a decent card.In a competitive deck, it is to slow to be useable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted July 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 wich is why u find ryko a litlle over rated, i mean sure if its attaced its a onr for one but you target a s/t and its gonna be chained to, then it becomes no better than man eater bug i mean sure flipping and tribbing in a perfect world is great but chances are it will never happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tekken Ham Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 If it's so horrible how did Corn T16 with it in Conarchs? If it's so horrible why is it run in nearly every competitive Monarch variant in this meta? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted July 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 because everyone is an idiot thts why :L chances are they are more of a hinderance then they are a help i think 2 +1s are worth giving up to not deck a flip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tekken Ham Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 So, Corn, and everyone else who runs Oppression/Cornarchs is an idiot? Think before you insult people little man. Overinflated ego is huge, almost as big as Star's. Can you back it up though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted July 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 well there is MUCH better alternatives and you kno it there is a reason why flips are bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Star Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 well there is MUCH better alternatives and you kno it there is a reason why flips are bad Lol, you're right. The card sucks, and that's why pros use it. How is it bad? It's a +1, and you can Tribute it for a Monarch or Prime Material Dragon. Plus, like The Dark One said, Gladiator Beasts sort of rely on attacking for the tag-out strategy, so there's a good chance that it might get attacked. Not to mention, it's a DARK monster, and you can remove it for Allure of Darkness or Tribute it for Darklord Zerato. Please explain how this card is bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tekken Ham Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 What's a better alternative to a monster that gives you draws and isn't screwed by Oppression? Card Trooper is limited. Disk Commander is limited and is screwed by Oppression. Cyber Phoenix has to be face-up and destroyed by battle. Why are flips so bad if they're the core of PACMAN and Cornarchs? EDIT: For once I agree with Star over something in the TCG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted July 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 flips are slow and gb bait epic bait this is precisly why i run macro monarch as it is a much better alternative also star man eater bug is a flip and a plus one so by tht logic i should deck it, yes? i can trib a doomsday token for a dlz, what dad decks do you see running Dekoichi? also im my experiance (as i used to deck this card in my norleras deck) it is horrible flips are bad, and i do not see why adam corn won owait yes i do because he had monarchs and dad and ccv NOt A Dekoichi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tekken Ham Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 Spirit Reaper is GB bait too, but people run him. Macro Monarchs is too inconsistent and reliant on a few cards to actually succeed. It's also just as slow as using flips. Why the hell would you run this in Norleras? What about everyone else who T16'd with Oppression Monarchs without DaD and CCV? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted July 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 Spirit Reaper is GB bait too' date=' but people run him. right but its more useful imo Macro Monarchs is too inconsistent and reliant on a few cards to actually succeed. It's also just as slow as using flips. not mone mine runs very well :S, the turbo version didnt Why the hell would you run this in Norleras? the same reason you would run it "dark +1" What about everyone else who T16'd with Oppression Monarchs without DaD and CCV? im sure tht wasnt relient on a small pus one from a flip [/quote'] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tekken Ham Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 So after Spirit Reaper does his 1 hand discard, he gets pwnd by GB. At least Dekoichi will fetch a card. Spirit Reaper in DEF mode is even worse. Suuure it does... Says the guy who runs no PMD and trip LV. And Marshmallon and Spirit Reaper, the two best ways to get GB's to tag. Again, why the hell would you run this in Norleras? You're response is too vague. Jesse JacksonMain DeckMonsters: 192 Prime Material Dragon1 Sangan1 Spirit Reaper1 Night Assailant1 Morphing Jar2 Mask of Darkness3 Thestalos the Firestorm Monarch3 Caius the Shadow Monarch3 Gravekeeper’s Spy2 Dekoichi the Battlechanted Locomotive Spells: 81 Brain Control2 Book of Moon2 Allure of Darkness3 Soul Exchange Traps: 131 Mirror Force3 Solemn Judgment3 Reckless Greed3 Royal Oppression1 Trap Dustshoot2 Bottomless Trap Hole I pulled this list from the first I found. It wasn't reliant on it, but it ran it, and according to you, he's an idiot because he's running it. PACMAN says hi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted July 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 im pretty sure that deck isnt relient on them im im sure if replaced for moley or somthign woulld probably be more effecient Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tekken Ham Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 Keep posting, this is a lulz mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted July 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 keep saying flips are good tht is also a "lulzmine" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tekken Ham Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 I'm not saying Flips are good. I'm saying Dekoichi isn't a piece of sheet like you keep saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted July 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 well there is much better cards out there i would rather use pc monarhs to gain advantage (packed with some tech obvii) then use decouchi as i personally find it slow and unreliable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Star Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 keep saying flips are good tht is also a "lulzmine" Normally, I suck at this game. However, even I'm decent enough to know that Dekoichi is a good card. You're not providing any good arguments as to why it's bad, while we are providing arguments as to why it's good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted July 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 ---^ funnily enough your not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 Jesse Jackson I imagined a black civil rights activist in a suit with a mustache dueling, and it made lol so hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KornKing153 Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 When recklass greed is activated Deckowichi becomes the draw phase. If deckoichi is bad then so is GK spy? What about sangan? Its a plus 1 too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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