iAmNateXero Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 I still think heavy storm should be banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 Both stop spamming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 Im not spamming, im staying on topic and putting my thoughts down upon the next ban list. I honestly think heavy storm should be banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxlord Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 Heavy Storm should stay the way it is the only reason it's not banned and is limited to one is because it has a downside (at least one of the reasons)Harpies Feather Duster does not have an effect downside therefore is banned, same applies with Raigeki Their effects require no cost such as Lightning Vortex and even then it still has a downside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 Im not spamming' date=' im staying on topic and putting my thoughts down upon the next ban list. I honestly think heavy storm should be banned.[/quote'] Yes but you have posted the same thing 3 times, making it spam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 Heavy Storm should stay the way it is the only reason it's not banned and is limited to one is because it has a downside (at least one of the reasons)Harpies Feather Duster does not have an effect downside therefore is banned' date=' same applies with Raigeki Their effects require no cost such as Lightning Vortex and even then it still has a downside[/quote'] Dark hole has the same downsides as heavy storm except it destroys monsters. Costless "setups" are the reason why i was for the ban list, but if an "Easy Button" tool like heavy storm still exist, whats the point? I can understand the limit on Giant trunade because it to is a "setup" for victory, but if victory is not reached at least cards are still made available for play next turn. Storm completely trashes the hope of using those spell and traps next turn unless a player exhaust extra resources to retrieve them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark One Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 Nate, stop being a retard. All of your reasons FOR Heavy Storm being banned have been invalidated. Now I will present to you its useful purpose within the game. It discourages overextension. It has the ability to gain large amounts of advantage IF the opposing player is stupid and sets a large number of Spell/Trap cards, especially nonchainables. Therefore, it promotes thoughtful play. In order to be a good player in a format where Heavy Storm is unbanned, you must be able to have the rudimentary mental skills necessary to decide which Traps are most prudent to set. It is clear to me that you want Heavy Storm banned because you are one of those players that sets your entire hand. In other words, you fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 The Dark One, lrn2playwithoutanapronstring! You try to present a reason to keep a broken card unbaned. Your so called presentation is nothing more than a tired old and repeated excuse for warranting a broken effect. If what you say is true than dark hole doesn't deserver the ban hammer because It discourages overextension. It has the ability to gain large amounts of advantage IF the opposing player is skillful and can swarm many monsters, especially effect monsters. Therefore, it promotes thoughtful play. In order to be a good player in a format where Dark Hole is unbanned, you must be able to have the rudimentary mental skills necessary to decide which monsters are most prudent to be destroyed. STHU, this makes no sense. Fact is its an easy button card that if you'd lose you wouldn't know how to cope without. I honestly think if this card was banned more than half of you would quit because your OTK would become just way to hard to pull off. Did it ever occur to people that mabey if this card gets banned other cards may be limited as well for sheer fact that it can not be ridden as easily? They would have to limit or semi powerful cards like Macro, D fissure, COSR, Zombie world, etc. Or they could up the not so broken cards, like giant trunade or MST. Just because a card is chainable doesn't warrant the fact it shouldn't be banned, thats just as stupid as the, "dont ban a monster because it can be solemn'd" defense. I swear just because your playing Advanced format, i seriously don't think its by choice. I honestly think sometimes that a lot of you are playing this way not for sheer enjoyment, or to exercise your skills, or to even step the difficulty of this game, I believe you play advance because if you didn't people would laugh at you and call you noob. Its because people are so afraid to step out of that comfort zone that they wont accept change no matter how badly its needed and before things get way too out of whack, they quit. Step up to the plate a little more guys, its really getting dusty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark One Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 Your entire point made no sense. In your own post you proved why Dark Hole does not encourage skillful play (although even there, your reasoning was flawed, refer back to Atem's post for the true reasons that Dark Hole is unbalanced), while not having proved anything about Heavy Storm. Also, lol at overextending being skillful play. Why does the absence of one card causing the limitation of another card provide justification for the absence of the aforementioned card? I don't really know what point you were trying to make in your last paragraph, seeing as your sentences are hardly coherent, but I'll just say this: Advanced Format is for people who like skilled play. I am one of those people. Traditional Format is for people who don't like skilled play. Are you one of those people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 Did you at all notice that i said nothing in the first paragraph, i simply changed HS to DH, S/T to monsters. If you have a problem with this example, than lol at yourself for providing such a pathetic argument to begin with. Stop using tired excuses you probably read over and over again. And to prove how easy it is, lets use AGAIN your first paragraph. In your own post you proved why Heavy Storm does not encourage skillful play while not having proved anything about Heavy Storm. Yeah, stop it. Learn to think on your own. And PS, if i didn't agree with a word Atem said why the HELL would i quote or use anything that he/she (its the interwebs, any body could be anybody, no offense) provided as so called evidence in a dispute im having with you? Heavy storm is a skill less, costless card that punishes offense/defense, and themed strategies. If you like skilled play than why play with skill less cards? Your contradicting yourself. Pick one, either play skillfully or play traditional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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