KornKing153 Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 I was thinking of any way possiable to brake Prime maerial dragon and I may have found the way but Im not sure if it works or not so if any one has any input or a link to a offiacl ruling I will be greatly appreciated. The idea is simple. Dark snake syndrome + Prime material dragon + Bad reaction to simochi or Nurse Reficule The Fallen One. I am hoping it will be ruled like this. 1)dark snake syndrome activates.2)prime material dragon activatea3)bad reaction to simochi/reficule activates End result They take damege will I gain life points. But I need a offical ruling or too see it in paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 It depends if prime material can actiavte multiple times in a chain, which i think it can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KornKing153 Posted July 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 but wouldn't bad reaction to simochi too then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 i think it creates another infinite loop, however there is no official ruling. I would rule it that it is an infinite loop and dark snake would blow itself up. Thats only how i would rule it not an official one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KornKing153 Posted July 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 My friend has just found a ruling on this. Baisicly what ever is activated last. So if I want to use this combo I need to activate bad reaction to simochi last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekkaman01 Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 My friend has just found a ruling on this. Baisicly what ever is activated last. So if I want to use this combo I need to activate bad reaction to simochi last. Your "friend" could not have found an official ruling on these cards interacting together sense their is no official ruling on this. However as JoC pointed out any good judge would rule an infinite loop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KornKing153 Posted July 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 He said he found it on a official site. Ill ask him for the link as soon as I talk him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetsumei75 Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 [spoiler=PMD]"Prime Material Dragon's" first effect is a Continuous Effect. While "Prime Material Dragon" is face-up on the field, if an effect would inflict damage to both players' Life Points, both players will gain Life Points instead. If "The Immortal of Thunder" is sent to the Graveyard, its owner will lose 5000 Life Points because this is not damage. "Prime Material Dragon" cannot change it into a Life Point gain. "Prime Material Dragon's" second effect can be activated during any Game Phase, including the Damage Step. "Prime Material Dragon's" second effect can be activated when the effect of a Continuous Spell or Trap Card that destroys a monster(s) is activated, like "Blaze Accelerator" or "Skull Lair". "Prime Material Dragon's" second effect works like "My Body as a Shield". "Prime Material Dragon" can negate cards such as "Smashing Ground", "Nobleman of Crossout", "Shield Crush", "Thousand Knives", "Trap Hole", "Mirror Force", "Ring of Destruction", "Torrential Tribute", "Bottomless Trap Hole", "Swarm of Scarabs", "Dark Armed Dragon", "Raigeki Break", "XYZ Dragon Cannon", "Mega-Ton Magical Cannon", "Exiled Force" (negates the effect but will not destroy "Exiled Force" as it is already in the Graveyard), "Soul Taker" (negates "Soul Taker" so you do not gain Life Points), "Jowgen the Spiritualist" (when its effect is activated), "Dragon's Gunfire" (if the effect that destroys a monster is selected), or "The Last Warrior From Another Planet" (negates the effect and destroys "The Last Warrior From Another Planet"). "Prime Material Dragon" can only be used against effects that will destroy monsters at that time. For example, you cannot use "Prime Material Dragon's" effect when "Dark Armed Dragon" is Special Summoned; you can only use it in response to the activation of "Dark Armed Dragon's" effect when it targets a monster. Also, you cannot use "Prime Material Dragon's" effect against cards whose effects will not destroy a monster right away, so you cannot use "Prime Material Dragon" against "Jigen Bakudan", "Ekibyo Drakmord", "Magical Hats", "Steel Scorpion", "Toon Monsters", "Thunder Nyan Nyan", "Gradius' Option", "Summoner of Illusions", "Limiter Removal", "Call of the Haunted", "Premature Burial", or "Arutonomous Action Unit". You cannot use "Prime Material Dragon's" effect against cards whose effects may or may not destroy a monster right away, such as "Earthshaker", "Barrel Dragon", "Acid Trap Hole", or "Time Wizard". You cannot use "Prime Material Dragon's" effect against monsters with continuous effects such as "Kotodama" . You can activate the second effect of your "Prime Material Dragon" when your opponent activates the second effect of their "Prime Material Dragon". Those are the only official rulings that I can find on Prime Material Dragon, so this combo may work. Everything can be found here. http://entertainment.upperdeck.com/yugioh/en/gameplay/faqs/cardfaqs/default.aspx?first=P&last=R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekkaman01 Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 He said he found it on a official site. Ill ask him for the link as soon as I talk him. The only site that is official is this: http://entertainment.upperdeck.com/ude/en/ and their is no ruling on how Prime Material Dragon will work with Bad Reaction/Nurse Their will not be an official ruling until the OCG gets the Prime material dragon. So until then the best ruling that can be made is the Infinite loop ruling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orochi Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 until we have an official ruling about PMD vs. reficule/simochi from konami, we apply the ruling of simochi vs. rainbow life, so in the end all becomes damage... that's what curtis schultz said about this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoPaladin2008 Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 simochi only burns the opponent's LP........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekkaman01 Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 until we have an official ruling about PMD vs. reficule/simochi from konami' date=' we apply the ruling of simochi vs. rainbow life, so in the end all becomes damage... that's what curtis schultz said about this...[/quote'] Please provide a link to that ruling, I have never found that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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