~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 If Level 11 5000 ATK Normal Monsters were released for each type, do you think the game would change at all? I don't, I think they would be ignored, because they'd just be giant beatsticks and wouldn't last too long at all, and there would be tons of ways to stop your opponent from successfully summoning one and doing battle damage. eatsticks are never worth 2 tributes no matter what there ATK is. Do you think the game would be changed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon92 Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 No. I think that Level 11 5000 ATK monsters would be useless. Not every duelist would want to have one because not everyone likes overpowered cards. Specially normal ones. I also say that it would be pointless to have them in a deck because the card would be destroyed easily and it would not have an effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted July 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 ^I agree. There's no point to cards that have no point but lolATK, and there's always FHD, and even FHD is useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tickle Me Emo Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 ^I agree. There's no point to cards that have no point but lolATK' date=' and there's always FHD, and even FHD is useless.[/quote'] Q4E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 FHD isn't useless, just not worth the effort in actually bringing it out. For every body that says lol atk, i gotta actually ask, what have yall been playing with all game, effect damage? ATK isnt everything, but 5000 atk for no reason is gawd good. If there were 5000 atk normal monsters playable today, i can see a hell of a lot of otks in our future. We have cards like Swing of memories, and cry havoc that makes looking at such cards child play. 5000 ATK Creatures would break this game completely. Does anybody remember this? Now how hard is it to play Wild Fire during your opponents end phase, than Heavy on your turn, summon this drop that 5000 atk beat stick, lol Attack, MP2 set the fire art, end turn than snatch victory. Or this card? Same setup, Heavy, SS Gigantas, or gigaplant, Summon this, drop the 5000 monster ATK, swing with this and lilly for game. A 5000 ATK would make rat box tier 1. Or This, than the 5000 for free + Raiza = OWNAGE! The easiest, Treeborn + this + 5000 atker + any 2200+ monster, and you got game. 5000 ATK Creatures would be a threat and completely broken because of the sad fact that EVERY CARD IN THIS GAME CAN BE ABUSED AND COUNTERED WITH LITTLE TO NO EFFORT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazer Yoshi Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 It might change the game. 2 tributes for 5000 ATK? Dragon Master Knight is harder to summon. Even though that monster gains ATK for Dragons, he can still be destroyed easily by card effects. The 5000 ATK Normal Monsters will probably be ignored, but some beatdown decks might use it. However, I dont think it would do too well, since Lightsworn, Gladiator Beasts, and Crystal Beasts have already taken over T.T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted July 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 Nate: You're assuming a claer field for each of those. >.< Not too mention you need one of those 4 Advanced Charmer monsters and another monster sharing their Attribute to survive. AND you need the 5000 ATK monster to not get Bottomless'd or trapped when it attacks, AND you need to summon more monsters amounting to 2200 ATK+ and have them survive. The amount of luck you'd need to pull all of that off without your opponent having a Defense is huge in casual play, let alone at metas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 2200 lp is not hard, in fact most players (tournament players) Deck 3 Solemn's. Its not hard to take take damage in a game, or inflict damage in a game. Anything can happen. If you play heavy and somebody chains Roar or Wabaku, whats the chances are you to do much of anything else? You'll probably set your defenses to insure game next turn. Monsters on the field aren't hard to do, or get. Most monsters special summon them self. And just to go with the logic of what your saying, how hard is it to get your field cleared? a simple judgment dragon with the cost of 1000 lp can clear a field, and you don't even have to play with the card. i said it once, and ill say it again. ANYTHING IN THIS GAME IS POSSIBLE BECAUSE EVERY CARD IN THIS GAME CAN BE COUNTERED OR CHAINED TO. And to say it couldn't happen is just being closed minded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted July 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 JD clears your field too. If they deck 3 Solemns you're REALLY not going to be able to win with a gaint Vanilla beatstick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 Really? after they clear the field i play Wabaku IF they don't play any more cards they will pass. My turn, IF they didn't set any cards, i special summon my Treeborn frog. I normal summon my Eria, i offer my frog for my 5000 monster, IF LP is lower, ill equip my mega morph to my 5000 drop, IF They are higher, i equip it to Judgment dragon. IF they have no necro guardna, I attack them with either 10,000 atk (-7000, meaning game cuz they paid 1000 for effect), or 3500 (cuz they are weaker, still game IF they even solemn once, im gonna swing with my Eria next.) and IF they dont have honest to drop, its game over, IF they do, its game over. All this can happen IF you keep remembering that this card game is not etched in stone, and every outcome doesn't happen the same ending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 This topic is stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 For every body that says lol atk' date=' i gotta actually ask, what have yall been playing with all game, effect damage?[/quote'] PikaPerson01 got a giant "Lrn2play" slapped in his face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryo Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 LOL 5k ATK is way over powered i don't care if there's an effect or not a thing that can knock out over 1/2 of of you LP for the cost 2 monsters is OP. Besides if it has no effect just give it an effect thats why equip card were made. Megamorph would be useful, Is the card still playable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixty Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 Good card making idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kale Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 guys, seriously, look at what Nate is talking about. There was an expolsion or normal monster support when the Gemini monsters came out, cards like swing of memories can easily get these 5k attackers out. Foolish burial burial then swing to get a bad monster out of the way... ^_^ Or possibly attack directly for game, if you are at the point. With 5k normals, you might see a few, not a lot, of people try it out. If you perfect it, add in reasonings, you could possibly make an otk deck out of these monsters. Dont dis the normals. They can find their way around a duel. ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 This topic is stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekkaman01 Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 3 Words (sort of)...... 5000 atk Zombie!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 5000 ATK would be a bit stupid in my opinion but if they were released I would take advantage of them as soon as I can. Reasoning and Monster Gate say hi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vamki Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 how about using "the last will"(can summon a 1500 atk below*i love 2 summon yubel with it*than shuffle ur deck) than summon "lunatic (1 missing word) parasite"(ATK1000/DEF800 level?sry but my card is fake/effect:equip it to a monster card.the monster equip with this cards is not effect by magic cards.when the equiped monster is destroy,this cards is destroy instead).after that equip it 2 the 5000 atk monster.this prevent it from being destroy 1 and 100% cannot be destroy by magic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neiko Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 Ancient Rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 Wow. These would make Ancient Rules actually worth running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pharaoh_Atem Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 This topic is why YCM gets laughed at. Only a fool would think that monsters w' 5000 ATK and no harder-than-the-usual Summon Method... wouldn't change the game. Only a fool would think that you'd NEED a clear field for such a monster to dominate gamestate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pharaoh_Atem Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 For every body that says lol atk' date=' i gotta actually ask, what have yall been playing with all game, effect damage?[/quote'] PikaPerson01 got a giant "Lrn2play" slapped in his face. Not really, seeing how the "lol atk" quote is nothing more than a heavily condensed criticism of how little thinking most players do when deciding whether or not a card is good. USUALLY, the "lol atk" quote is used in reply to someone stupid enough to think that an ATK score slightly higher than the average score for comparable monsters... is enough to make a card good. However, this topic uses "lol atk" in a different way. The idea of 5000 ATK Normal Monsters is one that shows stupidity on behalf of the idea's creator; copious amounts of battle damage are what win this game. When someone suggests BEWD, folks say "lol atk" because other cards are much better options in all but the most exotic circumstances. BEWD is inefficient in inflicting lots of Battle Damage, whereas Gyzarus is VERY efficient at it. The 5000 ATK normies would be efficient to a point that puts Gyz to shame - they'd need to do nothing more than just RUN OVER Gyz, and they'd STILL inflict huge damage. The present game is VERY fast; Gyz takes out a little bit less than 1/3 of someone's LP, each hit. Gyz's ability makes hits easy. This makes it efficient. A card having the ability to run over cards like Gyz and STILL inflict damage as if Gyz hit directly on its own... is gamedefining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 This topic is stupid. Q4E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantasy Dreamz Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 how about Ancient Rules.. and Symbol of Duty..and Summoner's Art.. protected by Non-Spellcaster AreaBirthright... and etc....will these make a different with those monsters.?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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