Quick Q: D.D.R.

[「tea.leaf」]

While Dimensional Fissure is in play, if you discard Kuraz for D.D.R. while you have other removed from play monsters, can you Special Summon the discarded Kuraz with the D.D.R. you discarded it for?

[Benraino]

Yes, but only if you had a target before you discard and Kuraz was RFG'd.

[Static]

If you have no other Kuraz in the RFP before discarding him, you may not. If you do, then sure. Same ruling concerning Night Assailant.

[GenzoTheHarpist]

Actually the same concept applies to anything. It has to already be in the removed for play pile.

[Pharaoh_Atem]

If you have no other Kuraz in the RFP before discarding him' date=' you may not. If you do, then sure. Same ruling concerning Night Assailant.

[/quote']

 

Wrong.

 

 

The rules behind activation are simple.

 

 

The payment of a card's activation cost may NOT be used to establish the necessary game state for that card to be activated - the game state necessary for activation MUST be present BEFORE you pay the activation cost.

 

For DDR, the cost is to discard 1 card. You cannot discard 1 card to activate DDR when none of your monsters are removed from play, even if the discarded card would be a monster immediately removed from play. To activate DDR, you need to have one of your monsters removed from play BEFORE you pay the cost.

 

 

So, let's have a bit of an example.

 

You pay the cost of activation before you activate the card, and before you pay the cost, you verify gamestate to see if it's even legal to pay the cost in the first place.

 

You want to activate DDR. Great. We need the gamestate to legalize the right to activate.

 

So, let's say you have a monster - any monster - removed from play. The game state permits DDR to be activated, so you move on to the cost.

 

The cost is discarding 1 card. If you can pay the cost, you do so now, and immediately declare both the activation of DDR and the target of DDR.

 

It's crucial that you understand that costs are paid before activation, and targets are selected at activation.

 

Let's say that you discarded Kuraz as cost, while either controls an active "Dimensional Fissure" that isn't being negated at the current time.

 

That Fissure reads as: "All monsters sent to the Graveyard are removed from play instead."

 

So, when discarded, Kuraz is "sent to the Graveyard" - but is rerouted to the RFP.

 

Now, then, the cost is paid: the next thing you do is move on to activation. At activation, you look through your RFP'd monsters, and guess what? Kuraz is RFP'd.

[Static]

If you have no other Kuraz in the RFP before discarding him' date=' you may not. If you do, then sure. Same ruling concerning Night Assailant.

[/quote']

 

Wrong.

 

 

The rules behind activation are simple.

 

 

The payment of a card's activation cost may NOT be used to establish the necessary game state for that card to be activated - the game state necessary for activation MUST be present BEFORE you pay the activation cost.

 

For DDR, the cost is to discard 1 card. You cannot discard 1 card to activate DDR when none of your monsters are removed from play, even if the discarded card would be a monster immediately removed from play. To activate DDR, you need to have one of your monsters removed from play BEFORE you pay the cost.

 

 

So, let's have a bit of an example.

 

You pay the cost of activation before you activate the card, and before you pay the cost, you verify gamestate to see if it's even legal to pay the cost in the first place.

 

You want to activate DDR. Great. We need the gamestate to legalize the right to activate.

 

So, let's say you have a monster - any monster - removed from play. The game state permits DDR to be activated, so you move on to the cost.

 

The cost is discarding 1 card. If you can pay the cost, you do so now, and immediately declare both the activation of DDR and the target of DDR.

 

It's crucial that you understand that costs are paid before activation, and targets are selected at activation.

 

Let's say that you discarded Kuraz as cost, while either controls an active "Dimensional Fissure" that isn't being negated at the current time.

 

That Fissure reads as: "All monsters sent to the Graveyard are removed from play instead."

 

So, when discarded, Kuraz is "sent to the Graveyard" - but is rerouted to the RFP.

 

Now, then, the cost is paid: the next thing you do is move on to activation. At activation, you look through your RFP'd monsters, and guess what? Kuraz is RFP'd.

 

Pfft. Whatever

 

Oh, are you the same Atem the Pharoah/Pharoah Atem on YF?

[「tea.leaf」]

If you have no other Kuraz in the RFP before discarding him' date=' you may not. If you do, then sure. Same ruling concerning Night Assailant.

[/quote']

 

Wrong.

 

 

The rules behind activation are simple.

 

 

The payment of a card's activation cost may NOT be used to establish the necessary game state for that card to be activated - the game state necessary for activation MUST be present BEFORE you pay the activation cost.

 

For DDR, the cost is to discard 1 card. You cannot discard 1 card to activate DDR when none of your monsters are removed from play, even if the discarded card would be a monster immediately removed from play. To activate DDR, you need to have one of your monsters removed from play BEFORE you pay the cost.

 

 

So, let's have a bit of an example.

 

You pay the cost of activation before you activate the card, and before you pay the cost, you verify gamestate to see if it's even legal to pay the cost in the first place.

 

You want to activate DDR. Great. We need the gamestate to legalize the right to activate.

 

So, let's say you have a monster - any monster - removed from play. The game state permits DDR to be activated, so you move on to the cost.

 

The cost is discarding 1 card. If you can pay the cost, you do so now, and immediately declare both the activation of DDR and the target of DDR.

 

It's crucial that you understand that costs are paid before activation, and targets are selected at activation.

 

Let's say that you discarded Kuraz as cost, while either controls an active "Dimensional Fissure" that isn't being negated at the current time.

 

That Fissure reads as: "All monsters sent to the Graveyard are removed from play instead."

 

So, when discarded, Kuraz is "sent to the Graveyard" - but is rerouted to the RFP.

 

Now, then, the cost is paid: the next thing you do is move on to activation. At activation, you look through your RFP'd monsters, and guess what? Kuraz is RFP'd.

 

kthnx

[Exiro]

 

So' date=' let's say you have a monster - any monster - removed from play. The game state permits DDR to be activated, so you move on to the cost.

 

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Wrong.

 

If your only monster(s) that are removed from play are nomi monsters or semi-nomi monsters that are not Special Summoned before, you cannot activate DDR.

 

Those are the only exceptions, though.

[JesusofChaos™]

 

So' date=' let's say you have a monster - any monster - removed from play. The game state permits DDR to be activated, so you move on to the cost.

 

[/quote']

 

Wrong.

 

If your only monster(s) that are removed from play are nomi monsters or semi-nomi monsters that are not Special Summoned before, you cannot activate DDR.

 

Those are the only exceptions, though.

 

Thank you Mr Go through every sentence and find any tiny error. Would you like to inspect the grass i cut now?

[God GAK]

So, basically, if you have Dimensional fissure on the field, and any monster removed from play, and you discard a monster for the cost, you can select to bring back the monster that was rfg'd as the cost?

[JesusofChaos™]

^ Correct, exactly the same as you can when you use zombie masters effect