HORUS Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 I'm not mad or upset at all. I'm just annoyed by your continuous insolence, that's all. I think most members would have a better time without unfriendly manner. Angry statements like yours often cause the recipient of the comment to become defiant, rather than causing them to change their view. Though I'm expecting another scornful insult, I hope you could actually come to the realization that I'm not telling you to do anything, and I know that I can't do anything about you being here, but that I'm suggesting you be more friendly to all the members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 Why should anyone "be nice"? The only reason I can see is because you don't want your feelings hurt or whatever. And if your feelings really get hurt over a little box in your house then you have more problems then just a terrible deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SebastiaanZ Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 Because more people will like you when you are being nice! You for once won't make a lot of friends, if you don't look out. Only with people who are like you. And aren't we getting a bit carried away and of-topic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 I think you confuse me, and other Gamefaqs people, for people who care what others think, and for people who think anything on the internet is important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 Because members come here to get constructive criticism. They don't come here to have ridiculous internet jokes and insolent comments thrown at them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 Pika is right, in the decks section i get so many people with 45 card decks going on i win all the time with this deck. No matter what i say its never going to change their mind, they only way is being harsh because otherwise they dont listen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 But harshness can also cause defiance. Or they're 10 years old. Remember, the game is made for kids who are 6 years old, but you have to be more than twice that age to actually understand the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 Then its their loss not mine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 If it's their problem, why do you bother trying at all? Oh, 200,000 people died in Myanmar. Their problem, not mine. I guess we should criticize the Burmans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 ]But harshness can also cause defiance. ... So? They can either take my random advice mixed in with insults, along with just laughing it off and realizing that the internet is just "lol, the internet", or they'll continue losing at the game, and being an overall emotionally unstable sensitive person who cries just because someone doesn't agree and doesn't sugar coat everything they say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 Well, now that you're making logical statements, rather than insulting me, I can understand why you give harsh advice, but incessant rudeness is just degrading, rather than helpful. You may have to be harsh to get a point across, but you don't have to be so rude. Tone it down a bit, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 People read it as they will. If they view it as harsh and rude, that's their problem, not mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSceptile Posted July 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 I think you confuse me' date=' and other Gamefaqs people, for people who care what others think, and for people who think anything on the internet is important.[/quote'] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armageddon08 Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 I don't really care what people post, as long as it's informative and it helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b7hamma Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 Btw Horus, people on Gfaqs are idiots too. YCM is not exclusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 This topic and discussion is why Internet is Serious Business... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 Being harsh with a suggestion is typically something like "run x card or you fail." It does not explain WHY running those cards helps and thus won't help someone realize how the strategy works. And thus they will never be able to make decisions on their own regarding their deck because people were rude instead of explaining how the strategy works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pharaoh_Atem Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 ]If it's their problem' date=' why do you bother trying at all? Oh, 200,000 people died in Myanmar. Their problem, not mine. I guess we should criticize the Burmans.[/quote'] You're quite idiotic for that post. Specifically, this is because you are ignorant to context. When we tell people "your problem, not mine", we always do so about things that, quite frankly, are their problem and not ours. Things like people dying en-masse for unjust reasons just-so-happen to be our problem. Nothing on YCM, aside from things that actually are our problem, are our problem. This amounts to very little; the misguided emotional responses of other forumgoers are not within that. If someone's stupid enough to say "he's mean, waaah, I'm not going to listen to him" instead of saying "damn, he's really forceful about my deck sucking, so I guess I'd best try to figure out if/why he's correct", it's their loss. If someone can't play this game well without being handheld, they don't deserve to be handheld, but should be allowed to fail because of their own inherent lack of ability. Also, the Myanmar comparison is immensely stupid on your part *also* because making such a comparison attempts to demonize the others by pretending that they assign equal moral worth to both YGO and human loss of life. Anyone with a brain knows that we obviously don't care about YGO and obviously do care about human loss of life, at least when it's proper to care about human loss of life. In contrast, it is not proper to care about YGO forum posts, at least not in the ways you advocate. Being harsh with a suggestion is typically something like "run x card or you fail." It does not explain WHY running those cards helps and thus won't help someone realize how the strategy works. And thus they will never be able to make decisions on their own regarding their deck because people were rude instead of explaining how the strategy works. It's not our job to help anyone in any way at all, so telling someone "run x or you fail" without lying about it is STILL doing them a favor, albeit in a way they may not like. It's not our responsibility to help at all; when we do so on a small whim, it's a gift no matter how harshly packaged. When we help, it is not our responsibility to care about whether or not the other player actually makes good use of the help. Whether they use it well or poorly is their responsibility. Beggars cannot be choosers, lest they stay beggars. It's no different here. If someone isn't going to take what little help they get, they don't deserve the benefits that come attached. It's a duelist's own job to improve upon his abilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yogg-Saron Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 ]If it's their problem' date=' why do you bother trying at all? Oh, 200,000 people died in Myanmar. Their problem, not mine. I guess we should criticize the Burmans.[/quote'] You're quite idiotic for that post. Specifically, this is because you are ignorant to context. When we tell people "your problem, not mine", we always do so about things that, quite frankly, are their problem and not ours. Things like people dying en-masse for unjust reasons just-so-happen to be our problem. Nothing on YCM, aside from things that actually are our problem, are our problem. This amounts to very little; the misguided emotional responses of other forumgoers are not within that. If someone's stupid enough to say "he's mean, waaah, I'm not going to listen to him" instead of saying "damn, he's really forceful about my deck sucking, so I guess I'd best try to figure out if/why he's correct", it's their loss. If someone can't play this game well without being handheld, they don't deserve to be handheld, but should be allowed to fail because of their own inherent lack of ability. Also, the Myanmar comparison is immensely stupid on your part *also* because making such a comparison attempts to demonize the others by pretending that they assign equal moral worth to both YGO and human loss of life. Anyone with a brain knows that we obviously don't care about YGO and obviously do care about human loss of life, at least when it's proper to care about human loss of life. In contrast, it is not proper to care about YGO forum posts, at least not in the ways you advocate. Being harsh with a suggestion is typically something like "run x card or you fail." It does not explain WHY running those cards helps and thus won't help someone realize how the strategy works. And thus they will never be able to make decisions on their own regarding their deck because people were rude instead of explaining how the strategy works. It's not our job to help anyone in any way at all' date=' so telling someone "run x or you fail" without lying about it is STILL doing them a favor, albeit in a way they may not like. It's not our responsibility to help at all; when we do so on a small whim, it's a gift no matter how harshly packaged. When we help, it is not our responsibility to care about whether or not the other player actually makes good use of the help. Whether they use it well or poorly is their responsibility. Beggars cannot be choosers, lest they stay beggars. It's no different here. If someone isn't going to take what little help they get, they don't deserve the benefits that come attached. It's a duelist's own job to improve upon his abilities.[/quote']All of you are spamming the topic related with TCG. Take that to debates and not here. I am sure all of you have forgotten the question asked. "Which is better, BEWD or Dark Magician?" Both cards are crap, but BEWD is over Dark Magician just because it can be more versatile. I will not be suprised if a mod locks this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSceptile Posted July 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 ]If it's their problem' date=' why do you bother trying at all? Oh, 200,000 people died in Myanmar. Their problem, not mine. I guess we should criticize the Burmans.[/quote'] You're quite idiotic for that post. Specifically, this is because you are ignorant to context. When we tell people "your problem, not mine", we always do so about things that, quite frankly, are their problem and not ours. Things like people dying en-masse for unjust reasons just-so-happen to be our problem. Nothing on YCM, aside from things that actually are our problem, are our problem. This amounts to very little; the misguided emotional responses of other forumgoers are not within that. If someone's stupid enough to say "he's mean, waaah, I'm not going to listen to him" instead of saying "damn, he's really forceful about my deck sucking, so I guess I'd best try to figure out if/why he's correct", it's their loss. If someone can't play this game well without being handheld, they don't deserve to be handheld, but should be allowed to fail because of their own inherent lack of ability. Also, the Myanmar comparison is immensely stupid on your part *also* because making such a comparison attempts to demonize the others by pretending that they assign equal moral worth to both YGO and human loss of life. Anyone with a brain knows that we obviously don't care about YGO and obviously do care about human loss of life, at least when it's proper to care about human loss of life. In contrast, it is not proper to care about YGO forum posts, at least not in the ways you advocate. Being harsh with a suggestion is typically something like "run x card or you fail." It does not explain WHY running those cards helps and thus won't help someone realize how the strategy works. And thus they will never be able to make decisions on their own regarding their deck because people were rude instead of explaining how the strategy works. It's not our job to help anyone in any way at all' date=' so telling someone "run x or you fail" without lying about it is STILL doing them a favor, albeit in a way they may not like. It's not our responsibility to help at all; when we do so on a small whim, it's a gift no matter how harshly packaged. When we help, it is not our responsibility to care about whether or not the other player actually makes good use of the help. Whether they use it well or poorly is their responsibility. Beggars cannot be choosers, lest they stay beggars. It's no different here. If someone isn't going to take what little help they get, they don't deserve the benefits that come attached. It's a duelist's own job to improve upon his abilities.[/quote']All of you are spamming the topic related with TCG. Take that to debates and not here. I am sure all of you have forgotten the question asked. "Which is better, BEWD or Dark Magician?" Both cards are crap, but BEWD is over Dark Magician just because it can be more versatile. I will not be suprised if a mod locks this. Clueless aren't ye? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b7hamma Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 It's a duelist's own job to improve upon his abilities. Remember this kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 Being harsh with a suggestion is typically something like "run x card or you fail." It does not explain WHY running those cards helps and thus won't help someone realize how the strategy works. And thus they will never be able to make decisions on their own regarding their deck because people were rude instead of explaining how the strategy works. It's not our job to help anyone in any way at all' date=' so telling someone "run x or you fail" without lying about it is STILL doing them a favor, albeit in a way they may not like. It's not our responsibility to help at all; when we do so on a small whim, it's a gift no matter how harshly packaged. When we help, it is not our responsibility to care about whether or not the other player actually makes good use of the help. Whether they use it well or poorly is their responsibility. Beggars cannot be choosers, lest they stay beggars. It's no different here. If someone isn't going to take what little help they get, they don't deserve the benefits that come attached. It's a duelist's own job to improve upon his abilities.[/quote']Oh come on, is it really that much harder to say "This helps because of x"? If you're going to try and help someone you might as well maximize the helpfulness of your comment. It might take them a long time to figure out why adding the card helps, it would take ten seconds tops for you to tell them why it helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 Pharaoh, the activity in Myanmar isn't our problem. It makes no effect on my life whatsoever. Why is it my problem? Myanmar has to deal with it, not me. I'm not saying we shouldn't do anything to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pharaoh_Atem Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 Being harsh with a suggestion is typically something like "run x card or you fail." It does not explain WHY running those cards helps and thus won't help someone realize how the strategy works. And thus they will never be able to make decisions on their own regarding their deck because people were rude instead of explaining how the strategy works. It's not our job to help anyone in any way at all' date=' so telling someone "run x or you fail" without lying about it is STILL doing them a favor, albeit in a way they may not like. It's not our responsibility to help at all; when we do so on a small whim, it's a gift no matter how harshly packaged. When we help, it is not our responsibility to care about whether or not the other player actually makes good use of the help. Whether they use it well or poorly is their responsibility. Beggars cannot be choosers, lest they stay beggars. It's no different here. If someone isn't going to take what little help they get, they don't deserve the benefits that come attached. It's a duelist's own job to improve upon his abilities.[/quote']Oh come on, is it really that much harder to say "This helps because of x"? No, it isn't. So what? Like we said, it's not our responsibility, so there's no reason for us to go one way or the other, aside from certain people simply liking it more. Those certain people's likes and dislikes are of no importance, because whether or not they improve at all is also of no importance. So, we're back to square one, and we can tell someone about themselves through either method A or method B, without care for the consequences. This is YGO; it is not important, and it is merely a game to enjoy with friends and acquaintances. Individual enjoyment is the personal responsibility of individual players; if someone is going to get their panties in a bunch over how someone said something to them, it's their problem, their stupidity, and their fault. If you're going to try and help someone you might as well maximize the helpfulness of your comment. You assume people speak with the intent to help. People can help without intending to. People can tell the truth' date=' or lie, without intending to. When we say "run more x or you're stupid", we're either intending to help, or honestly don't give a damn and just want to tell the truth, or we want to see if you'll fall for an obvious lie. Stop assuming. It might take them a long time to figure out why adding the card helps, it would take ten seconds tops for you to tell them why it helps. That's nice, you've told me something I've known the whole time, thereby wasting a good seven seconds of your time typing the above sentence, and a whole one second of mine reading it. Ask me if I care. ]Pharaoh' date=' the activity in Myanmar isn't our problem.[/quote'] Incorrect - it, just like everything else meaningful in the universe, dictates what is or is not possible for you in regard to important human interaction. As low as the likelihood is, the world would definitely be a different place, one wherein your life itself would be different in perhaps-nearly-immeasurable ways. The point is that it indeed is your problem; the correct thing for you to say would be that it is not a problem of yours that you choose to acknowledge. ]It makes no effect on my life whatsoever. Already refuted. The effect may be infintesimal' date=' but it's there - certain unique arrangements of decaying organic matter are ceasing to be "alive", and certain other unique arrangements of decaying organic matter are not. The trouble in Myanmar changes which arrangements do and do not perish, thereby slightly altering the probabilities of certain important interactions. ]Why is it my problem? Already noted. ]Myanmar has to deal with it' date=' not me.[/quote'] Technically, everything in the universe has to deal with the repercussions, however bloody minute they may be. That's quantum mechanics for you. ]I'm not saying we shouldn't do anything to help. Moral obligation to help those in Myanmar is completely independent of whether or not it is our problem - it's our problem because of slight quantum changes affecting life in even the most miniscule ways. (Of course, had the Myanmar incident not occurred, there would be a different series of slight quantum changes going on right now. That series of different changes would also be "our problem". Basically, every important change in the universe is our problem, thanks to how unpredictable quantum mechanics are.) Now, the reason why you are an idiot, is made clear through your post. You are ignorant of why it is our problem; however, that's nothing to be concerned about. It is your ignorance of context that makes you such a dolt. Namely, the context of moral obligation - that is, you used the Myanmar example to make a point, without noting the difference in context. In Myanmar, persons are dying for morally questionable reasons. In YGO, kids bad at YGO are whining about being told about themselves over the Internet. To make a comparison between the two (without noting the difference in context) shows either a grave overconcern for YGO Internet matters, which is insulting to anyone with a brain; OR, it shows a grave underconcern for International matters, which is also insulting to anyone with a brain. Namely, you came after us for acting in ways you don't like. The difference here is that we act uncaring toward things that aren't worth caring about (parts of YGO), and we only care about other things as much as they deserve to be cared about. In the case of certain other parts of YGO, they deserve very little care. Kids whining because someone told them something they don't like... such deserves absolutely no care at all. Something like Myanmar, in comparison, is a virtual care giant. So, yeah, I've learned something today - YCMers aren't just mostly simpleminded, they're also ethically misguided, if we can take you as a representation of the general mass of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 ]If it's their problem' date=' why do you bother trying at all? Oh, 200,000 people died in Myanmar. Their problem, not mine. I guess we should criticize the Burmans.[/quote'] Oh you did not just compare a childrens card game with an act of genocide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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