Treatment of new users

[Junk Raver]

My argument is ignorance is not an excuse' date=' being harsh means they improve quicker

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Q4 SERIOUS E

 

 

If New members did the intelligent thing before posting of reading the rules and stickied help threads, there would be no need for them to spam and ask a large amount of questions.

 

I do not see with whats wrong about knocking people who dont use common sense.

 

There's a difference between correcting someone and just being a total a-hole. When you have like 4 members all insulting a new member, that's not needed. When you have 6 members saying " WRONG SECTION! READ THE RULES NOOB " That's not needed. Most of these people bashing newbies are mini-mods ( Something not encouraged ) and kids trying to looks cooler. Most of the time you're just driving members away. It's not hard to explain to someone and be nice once in a while. One person is harsh then everyone thinks it's okay to flame new members. If someone asks one innocent question in wrong section you have no right to flame them.

 

In other words, stop getting carried away.

 

 

Says the guy who hardly ever posts and one who doesnt deal with the increase of this behaviour by new members.

 

Indeed you are partially correct, but you cannot deny Tkill, that they lack common sense, and need to see reason.

[End Of The Abyss]

I understand this. I'll admit I've been hard on n00bs. But only n00bs who are being a little too n00bish...

[Tkill93]

My argument is ignorance is not an excuse' date=' being harsh means they improve quicker

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Q4 SERIOUS E

 

 

If New members did the intelligent thing before posting of reading the rules and stickied help threads, there would be no need for them to spam and ask a large amount of questions.

 

I do not see with whats wrong about knocking people who dont use common sense.

 

There's a difference between correcting someone and just being a total a-hole. When you have like 4 members all insulting a new member, that's not needed. When you have 6 members saying " WRONG SECTION! READ THE RULES NOOB " That's not needed. Most of these people bashing newbies are mini-mods ( Something not encouraged ) and kids trying to looks cooler. Most of the time you're just driving members away. It's not hard to explain to someone and be nice once in a while. One person is harsh then everyone thinks it's okay to flame new members. If someone asks one innocent question in wrong section you have no right to flame them.

 

In other words, stop getting carried away.

 

 

Says the guy who hardly ever posts and one who doesnt deal with the increase of this behaviour by new members.

 

Indeed you are partially correct, but you cannot deny Tkill, that they lack common sense, and need to see reason.

 

Says the guy who does what ever it takes to raise his post count.

 

Look, I've been here a long time. Just because I don't post doesn't mean I don't see what goes on around the forum. I read almost every thread okay? Newbies are the same, and always will be the same. They just change depending on how you treat them. Just because they lack some common sense, you still don't have the right to flame them. You're a mod and you need to be helpful and point them in the right direction. Lot's of people make mistakes.

[Junk Raver]

My argument is ignorance is not an excuse' date=' being harsh means they improve quicker

[/quote']

 

Q4 SERIOUS E

 

 

If New members did the intelligent thing before posting of reading the rules and stickied help threads, there would be no need for them to spam and ask a large amount of questions.

 

I do not see with whats wrong about knocking people who dont use common sense.

 

There's a difference between correcting someone and just being a total a-hole. When you have like 4 members all insulting a new member, that's not needed. When you have 6 members saying " WRONG SECTION! READ THE RULES NOOB " That's not needed. Most of these people bashing newbies are mini-mods ( Something not encouraged ) and kids trying to looks cooler. Most of the time you're just driving members away. It's not hard to explain to someone and be nice once in a while. One person is harsh then everyone thinks it's okay to flame new members. If someone asks one innocent question in wrong section you have no right to flame them.

 

In other words, stop getting carried away.

 

 

Says the guy who hardly ever posts and one who doesnt deal with the increase of this behaviour by new members.

 

Indeed you are partially correct, but you cannot deny Tkill, that they lack common sense, and need to see reason.

 

Says the guy who does what ever it takes to raise his post count.

Look, I've been here a long time. Just because I don't post doesn't mean I don't see what goes on around the forum. I read almost every thread okay? Newbies are the same, and always will be the same. They just change depending on how you treat them. Just because they lack some common sense, you still don't have the right to flame them. You're a mod and you need to be helpful and point them in the right direction. Lot's of people make mistakes.

 

Precisely, as if i have time to point them in the correct direction, and also, says the guy who also does not bother to point people in the correct direction.

[Tkill93]

My argument is ignorance is not an excuse' date=' being harsh means they improve quicker

[/quote']

 

Q4 SERIOUS E

 

 

If New members did the intelligent thing before posting of reading the rules and stickied help threads, there would be no need for them to spam and ask a large amount of questions.

 

I do not see with whats wrong about knocking people who dont use common sense.

 

There's a difference between correcting someone and just being a total a-hole. When you have like 4 members all insulting a new member, that's not needed. When you have 6 members saying " WRONG SECTION! READ THE RULES NOOB " That's not needed. Most of these people bashing newbies are mini-mods ( Something not encouraged ) and kids trying to looks cooler. Most of the time you're just driving members away. It's not hard to explain to someone and be nice once in a while. One person is harsh then everyone thinks it's okay to flame new members. If someone asks one innocent question in wrong section you have no right to flame them.

 

In other words, stop getting carried away.

 

 

Says the guy who hardly ever posts and one who doesnt deal with the increase of this behaviour by new members.

 

Indeed you are partially correct, but you cannot deny Tkill, that they lack common sense, and need to see reason.

 

Says the guy who does what ever it takes to raise his post count.

Look, I've been here a long time. Just because I don't post doesn't mean I don't see what goes on around the forum. I read almost every thread okay? Newbies are the same, and always will be the same. They just change depending on how you treat them. Just because they lack some common sense, you still don't have the right to flame them. You're a mod and you need to be helpful and point them in the right direction. Lot's of people make mistakes.

 

Precisely, as if i have time to point them in the correct direction, and also, says the guy who also does not bother to point people in the correct direction.

 

Too busy trying to raise your post count?

 

Telling people off doesn't help them become a better member. And yes, I do help as many people as I can when I see a situation. I've helped so many newbie members which turned out to be some of the veterans of the forum. Don't QQ about your workload there's enough mods here to carry there own. Everyone is equal.

[Junk Raver]

My argument is ignorance is not an excuse' date=' being harsh means they improve quicker

[/quote']

 

Q4 SERIOUS E

 

 

If New members did the intelligent thing before posting of reading the rules and stickied help threads, there would be no need for them to spam and ask a large amount of questions.

 

I do not see with whats wrong about knocking people who dont use common sense.

 

There's a difference between correcting someone and just being a total a-hole. When you have like 4 members all insulting a new member, that's not needed. When you have 6 members saying " WRONG SECTION! READ THE RULES NOOB " That's not needed. Most of these people bashing newbies are mini-mods ( Something not encouraged ) and kids trying to looks cooler. Most of the time you're just driving members away. It's not hard to explain to someone and be nice once in a while. One person is harsh then everyone thinks it's okay to flame new members. If someone asks one innocent question in wrong section you have no right to flame them.

 

In other words, stop getting carried away.

 

 

Says the guy who hardly ever posts and one who doesnt deal with the increase of this behaviour by new members.

 

Indeed you are partially correct, but you cannot deny Tkill, that they lack common sense, and need to see reason.

 

Says the guy who does what ever it takes to raise his post count.

Look, I've been here a long time. Just because I don't post doesn't mean I don't see what goes on around the forum. I read almost every thread okay? Newbies are the same, and always will be the same. They just change depending on how you treat them. Just because they lack some common sense, you still don't have the right to flame them. You're a mod and you need to be helpful and point them in the right direction. Lot's of people make mistakes.

 

Precisely, as if i have time to point them in the correct direction, and also, says the guy who also does not bother to point people in the correct direction.

 

Too busy trying to raise your post count?

 

Telling people off doesn't help them become a better member. And yes, I do help as many people as I can when I see a situation. I've helped so many newbie members which turned out to be some of the veterans of the forum. Don't QQ about your workload there's enough mods here to carry there own. Everyone is equal.

 

It is called having a Life Love, perhaps you should not take this forum so seriously.

[Tkill93]

My argument is ignorance is not an excuse' date=' being harsh means they improve quicker

[/quote']

 

Q4 SERIOUS E

 

 

If New members did the intelligent thing before posting of reading the rules and stickied help threads, there would be no need for them to spam and ask a large amount of questions.

 

I do not see with whats wrong about knocking people who dont use common sense.

 

There's a difference between correcting someone and just being a total a-hole. When you have like 4 members all insulting a new member, that's not needed. When you have 6 members saying " WRONG SECTION! READ THE RULES NOOB " That's not needed. Most of these people bashing newbies are mini-mods ( Something not encouraged ) and kids trying to looks cooler. Most of the time you're just driving members away. It's not hard to explain to someone and be nice once in a while. One person is harsh then everyone thinks it's okay to flame new members. If someone asks one innocent question in wrong section you have no right to flame them.

 

In other words, stop getting carried away.

 

 

Says the guy who hardly ever posts and one who doesnt deal with the increase of this behaviour by new members.

 

Indeed you are partially correct, but you cannot deny Tkill, that they lack common sense, and need to see reason.

 

Says the guy who does what ever it takes to raise his post count.

Look, I've been here a long time. Just because I don't post doesn't mean I don't see what goes on around the forum. I read almost every thread okay? Newbies are the same, and always will be the same. They just change depending on how you treat them. Just because they lack some common sense, you still don't have the right to flame them. You're a mod and you need to be helpful and point them in the right direction. Lot's of people make mistakes.

 

Precisely, as if i have time to point them in the correct direction, and also, says the guy who also does not bother to point people in the correct direction.

 

Too busy trying to raise your post count?

 

Telling people off doesn't help them become a better member. And yes, I do help as many people as I can when I see a situation. I've helped so many newbie members which turned out to be some of the veterans of the forum. Don't QQ about your workload there's enough mods here to carry there own. Everyone is equal.

 

It is called having a Life Love, perhaps you should not take this forum so seriously.

 

Again coming from the guy on more than me. There is no excuse for not pointing members in the right direction. Only if you're not a moderator. Hell, you're a Super Moderator

[Junk Raver]

My argument is ignorance is not an excuse' date=' being harsh means they improve quicker

[/quote']

 

Q4 SERIOUS E

 

 

If New members did the intelligent thing before posting of reading the rules and stickied help threads, there would be no need for them to spam and ask a large amount of questions.

 

I do not see with whats wrong about knocking people who dont use common sense.

 

There's a difference between correcting someone and just being a total a-hole. When you have like 4 members all insulting a new member, that's not needed. When you have 6 members saying " WRONG SECTION! READ THE RULES NOOB " That's not needed. Most of these people bashing newbies are mini-mods ( Something not encouraged ) and kids trying to looks cooler. Most of the time you're just driving members away. It's not hard to explain to someone and be nice once in a while. One person is harsh then everyone thinks it's okay to flame new members. If someone asks one innocent question in wrong section you have no right to flame them.

 

In other words, stop getting carried away.

 

 

Says the guy who hardly ever posts and one who doesnt deal with the increase of this behaviour by new members.

 

Indeed you are partially correct, but you cannot deny Tkill, that they lack common sense, and need to see reason.

 

Says the guy who does what ever it takes to raise his post count.

Look, I've been here a long time. Just because I don't post doesn't mean I don't see what goes on around the forum. I read almost every thread okay? Newbies are the same, and always will be the same. They just change depending on how you treat them. Just because they lack some common sense, you still don't have the right to flame them. You're a mod and you need to be helpful and point them in the right direction. Lot's of people make mistakes.

 

Precisely, as if i have time to point them in the correct direction, and also, says the guy who also does not bother to point people in the correct direction.

 

Too busy trying to raise your post count?

 

Telling people off doesn't help them become a better member. And yes, I do help as many people as I can when I see a situation. I've helped so many newbie members which turned out to be some of the veterans of the forum. Don't QQ about your workload there's enough mods here to carry there own. Everyone is equal.

 

It is called having a Life Love, perhaps you should not take this forum so seriously.

 

Again coming from the guy on more than me. There is no excuse for not pointing members in the right direction. Only if you're not a moderator. Hell, you're a Super Moderator

 

A valid excuse is i simply dont have enough time to tell a million members what to do when they should already know via common sense.

[Tkill93]

A valid excuse is i simply dont have enough time to tell a million members what to do when they should already know via common sense.

 

You should try because being an a* won't help as many people as it will hurt which is the point of this thread. You don't need to give them a paragraph but it's not hard to give them something not so rude.

[Junk Raver]

A valid excuse is i simply dont have enough time to tell a million members what to do when they should already know via common sense.

 

You should try because being an a* won't help as many people as it will hurt which is the point of this thread. You don't need to give them a paragraph but it's not hard to give them something not so rude.

 

If you care so much about this point, and seeing as you seem to have an urge to help members, perhaps coming on more and showing people the way?

 

It would help would it not ^_^

 

And during my busy times, i have no time to do anything but check the Mod Forum for news, and quite recently my busy times have zoomed.

[Tkill93]

A valid excuse is i simply dont have enough time to tell a million members what to do when they should already know via common sense.

 

You should try because being an a* won't help as many people as it will hurt which is the point of this thread. You don't need to give them a paragraph but it's not hard to give them something not so rude.

 

If you care so much about this point' date=' and seeing as you seem to have an urge to help members, perhaps coming on more and showing people the way?

 

It would help would it not ^_^

 

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Well, I am begging to come back. But for a while I felt as if I wasn't needed. Not many of the people here know who I am, don't know how I've tried to help. And then every mod was turned into a super so not much for me to do. But this is off topic, and I will help as many members as I can. But I hope you try too when your not so busy. I only go on YCM when I know I'll have time to stay because I almost always end up typing at least a couple long paragraphs. =|

[Silencerleader]

Common Sense is what is in YCM written all over.

I'm just shocked many members get shocked over neg. reps becuase they think its all right to double post everywhere even after I warn them. *sigh*

[Skyfi]

God Pikachu Excelleant Idea At One Time I Had Neg 4 Reps Now I Have Almost 50

[Silencerleader]

If they want respect...they must show respect. They need to learn the hard way or else we'll just be spoon feeding them all the way until they become 5* members.

[Tkill93]

If they want respect...they must show respect. They need to learn the hard way or else we'll just be spoon feeding them all the way until they become 5* members.

 

All 5 star members are, are members with a high post count. It means absolutely nothing to be a 5 start member except you posted a lot. And " If they want respect, they must show respect " If you don't respect them first, why should they respect you?

 

And okay, I'm done with this thread now :/

[J-Max]

Seriously you two.... You're Super Mods for goodness sake! Luckily when i first signed up I had experience in Forums so fitted in quickly. And indeed TKill Post COunt means Jack. This is part of the reason I am fighting to get Introductions to not count as posts. Remember people this is just a forum "You give to recieve" Take a couple f the Newbies under your wing and help them. You may just have the next Legend in the making.

[Pikachu]

if you two mods want a fight, do it in Pm, that's what you always said

besides, have you even noticed a noob? they could just join a contest, or show their stuff in the graphics section, they're lost. it's a bit like you in a desert you just have to get used to it

 

so remember, you were once a noob too (even me)

[Mr. Judgment Dragon]

I dont think Ive ever spammed this forum since being a new member. I've flamed yes, but spammed, no way. I see a lot of people (mostly new members) post spam all over the place and I'm really getting sick of it. I think harshness to new members who cant be bothered reading the rules is rather necessary.

[SebastiaanZ]

Members are indeed sometimes hard at newbies. I like the idea of an pm, send to a new member at the moment they register with a link to the rules and important threads they should read first, the best.

 

I'll never flame or be hard against newbies unless they give me a damn good reason for doing it.

 

And seriously Dj and Tkill, you two sound like a married old couple that have lived together for to long. :D

[Mr. Judgment Dragon]

Members are indeed sometimes hard at newbies.

I think it's necessary. Ignorance is not an excuse like JesusofChaos says.

I like the idea of an pm' date=' send to a new member at the moment they register with a link to the rules and important threads they should read first, the best.

[/quote']

Sounds like a good idea but it's likely some wouldn't read the rules or threads anyway.

I'll never flame or be hard against newbies unless they give me a damn good reason for doing it.

I refrain from flaming as much as possible now because it used to get me in trouble when I used to do it a lot. Like me and JoC say. Ignorance is not an excuse.

[SebastiaanZ]

If there only was a way to make them read those threads and rules before they are able to post on the forum.

[Guest]

Alright, I think this has gone far enough, and will most likely just end up causing another argument.

 

~Locked~

 

-Darth