Deucalion Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Rhyperior? A Swords Danced EQ from a 252 ATK EV, Jolly 31 IV Garchomp will do 91.01% to 107.14% damage to a 252 DEF EV, 252 HP EV, Relaxed Rhyperior. Ie, it will OHKO it just over half the time. Then, a Rhyperior Avalanche will do 122.69% - 144.26%, and that is with a Choice Band. Add in Yache Berry, ie, garchomp takes 3/4 damage from the Ice Attack, and that is only 92.0175% damage to 108.195% damage. Meaning, you OHKO only half the time. This means you have a 25% chance of success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zexaeon Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 -_- No, not Rhyperior. See, I'll tell you what your big problem here is - you're overthinking. Get simple. Think Simple. What is an extremely Simple way to be rid of Garchomp in tandem with Pursuit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larxene Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 My brain hurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deucalion Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Either Rampardos or Raticate? But both of those are OHKO'd by EQ. But anyway, you'd want a Pokemon that can frighten the Chomp user into switching, so that Pursuit can do double damage. The trouble with this, is that Pursuit is such a common move that all the good players know off by heart which Pokemon can learn Pursuit, and they just don't switch out unless necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zexaeon Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Oh forget it, I'll just tell you. Rattata. You rely on his crappy stats to win. Very simple win. Give him a focus sash. Gar goes for the OH, Focus Sash keeps Rattata at 1 HP, and he responds with Endeavor. From there you can either Quick Attack if he's staying in or Pursuit if you can tell he's switching out. Win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deucalion Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Rofl. You use FEAR? This amuses me greatly. About a year ago, when the DP metagame was just forming, people used the FEAR (Focus sash, Endeavour, quick Attack Rattata) technique. Now, everybody knows about it. If you switch in a Raticate, and Sandstorm isn't going/Stealth Rocks is up, they'll just switch out. If a Sandstorm is going/Stealth Rocks is up, your Focus Sash will be ruined, and you will be OHKO'd by Earthquake. Nice try, Aeon, but you are a year too late. Just as a note, if you want to keep useing the FEAR strategy, Phanpy does it better than Raticate, because Phanpy resists Sandstorm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zexaeon Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 -_- Still works just fine for me. That's why I use a Rapid Spinner in the same party as Rattata. And a Weather-Manipulator. I keep things the way I want them. I don't actually use the damn Rattata unless I have an opening to do so and it becomes necessary. If they switch out, it doesn't bother me at all - all that means is that I now know of whatever they have waiting in the wings, and they've just undone any set-up they've begun. I can then shape my next moves accordingly. Ya know, you treat Garchomp as some sort of God among pokemon and act as though it's impossible to defeat, when it's far from. And I must say, I don't like how you talk to me - you speak as though I don't know what I'm doing. Look, I have many, many victories under my belt, and have played opponents of all skill levels. I have read extensively into the ever-changing game, have tried out a variety of strategies, and am very much experienced. I've been battling competitively for quite a while. I trust you are a competent player, and I don't speak in a manner that seems to demean your skills. I ask that you do the same. Also, I'd like to let this discussion drop. This club isn't exactly intended as a Pokemon discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deucalion Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 I'm sorry, I'm not trying to demean your skills. It did actually find it really funny, because of an old in-joke - there was this time when everyone was getting really annoyed by FEAR (about a year back), and saying it should be banned, until a guy called Obi pointed out that you can always, just, you know, switch out, and if the Rattata switches back in, it will be OHKO'd. It was basically a d'oh moment. Garchomp isn't impossible to defeat, but it is really difficult if you let it get a Swords Dance up. As I said earlier, it is being discussed for Ubers. My personal strategy is to switch in Celebi the minute I see it - Celebi is immune to EQ, and if Chomp SDances, I use HP Ice, I can survive at least one hit, then I take it out. However, if I lose turn advantage, I can't do this. Just of interest, do you play on WiFi, or Shoddy? Anyway, yeah, new discussion: Mirror's Edge. Y/n? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zexaeon Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 =/ Incidentally, a while back, a lot of people in Japan had started nicknaming their Rattatas "フィアー" (Fear). This was a trend based on the Rat's nature as described by the Pokedex as a scared creature. This was before the advent of the FEAR we know. And on another note, Garchomp is a pretty easy destiny bond target. Yes, it is hard to defeat, I can acknowledge that, but there are many ways to do it. As for Mirror's Edge, it looks very pretty, and seems to be quite awesome. I'll have to try it for myself when I get the chance (is there already a demo available or no?), as I typically stay away from First Person. EDIT: I used to use Netbattle, but now I just play people on the DS wifi, or battle anonymously with Battle Revolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deucalion Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Ah, WiFi/Battle Revolution. That explains a lot. You probably wouldn't have known about Fear, etc. Shoddy is perhaps the more competitive medium. Mirror's Edge had a playable demo last E3, and it comes out Nov 11th. It is First Person, but it is unlike any First Personer I've ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zexaeon Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Well Netbattle (during the time of ADV) was a good source of very competitive battling. For competitive DP, I just get Friend Codes off of Smogon - those people are all about competition. And yes, this is why I'm going to give Mirror's Edge a shot. It intrigues me. Usually, I don't give an FP a second glance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deucalion Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Yes. Most Smogoners use Shoddy these days. WiFi is too slow, and IVs/EVs are just annoying. I love the soundtrack for Mirror's Edge, and the story looks awesome. Go to www.mirrorsedge.com then check out the "Story Trailer". It smells of awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zexaeon Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 IVs bug the crap out of me, but I prefer raising my pokemon, so I still do all the EV work. It isn't hard though - I have Pokerus that I can just spread around when I need it, and I have power items, so yeah. I've already seen the trailer, and yes, awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deucalion Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Fortunately, there is the bug in Emerald's RNG that allows for 31/31/26/31/31/31 IVs, so I just use that. Still, it is annoying if I want a defensive wall. Yeah, Mirror's Edge is going to be awesomeness. Have you heard the two tracks from the soundtrack they have released? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zexaeon Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 =O What bug? (I never had Emerald, so yeah) And no I haven't - I'd certainly like to though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deucalion Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Emerald has a really stupid RNG to save space, that generates numbers depending on the time - ie, it isn't really random at all. There is a specific timing that generates 31/31/26/31/31/31 IVd Pokemon. The soundtrack for Shine is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Y-XBWXY9H0&fmt=18 No vocals, but still on excellent track. I can't find a link to Something Beautiful, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferro Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Hey, can you still join this group. I just came back from a long rest of YCM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larxene Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Yes, you can still join the group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deucalion Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 I only joined yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferro Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 ALrighty then. I was reading the first post and I guess im gonna be a Creeper rank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zexaeon Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 ^_^ Welcome aboard. And that track is win. =P Me likey. It's so peaceful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferro Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Yeah it is. Helped me get rid of my headache somehow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deucalion Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 They just released a third track, "Sister", a few minutes ago. Just like the other, it = heavenly music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larxene Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Ghost RP is epic on Drift Also, 6000 posts Yayz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zexaeon Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Lol. I love when a game has an awesome Soundtrack. Ever played Baten Kaitos or Baten Kaitos II? Some of the most awesome music ever is compiled in those games. Also Star Ocean: Till The End of TimexD Yes, Ghost RP IS win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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