Master Hyperion Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 Note that this is the list of Atem's List, added with my personal choices as well. I. Forbidden Cards You cannot use these cards in your Deck or Side Deck: ACCUMULATED FORTUNEALL-OUT ATTACKSALLURE OF DARKNESSBIG PIECE GOLEMBLACK LUSTER SOLDIER - ENVOY OF THE BEGINNINGBREAKER THE MAGICAL WARRIORBUTTERFLY DAGGER - ELMACALL OF THE HAUNTEDCARD OF SAFE RETURNCHANGE OF HEARTCHAOS EMPEROR DRAGON - ENVOY OF THE ENDCHAOS SORCERERCHIMERATECH FORTRESS DRAGON (Chimeratech Fortress Dragon)CHIMERATECH OVERDRAGONCONFISCATIONCRUSH CARD VIRUSCUP OF ACECYBER DRAGONCYBER END DRAGONCYBER JARCYBER-STEINCYBER TWIN DRAGONDAIROKKAN (Sixth Sense)DARK ARMED DRAGONDARK HOLEDARKLORD ZERATODARK MAGICIAN OF CHAOSDECK DEVASTATION VIRUSDELINQUENT DUODESTINY HERO - DISK COMMANDERDIMENSION FUSIONEPIDEMIC ERADICATION VIRUSEVIL HERO DARK GAIAEXCHANGE OF THE SPIRITEXODIA THE FORBIDDEN ONEFIBER JARGOLD SARCOPHAGUSGLADIATOR BEAST GYZARUS GLADIATOR BEAST HERAKLINOSGRACEFUL CHARITYHARPIE'S FEATHER DUSTERIMPERIAL ORDERJUDGMENT DRAGONLAST TURNLAST WILLLIFE EQUALIZERLIMITER REMOVALMAGICAL EXPLOSIONMAGICAL SCIENTISTMAKYURA THE DESTRUCTORMEGAMORPHMEIFU NO SHISHA GOES (Gorz the Emissary of Darkness)MIRAGE OF NIGHTMAREMONSTER REBORNMORPHING JARNOBLEMAN OF CROSSOUTPAINFUL CHOICEPHANTOM OF CHAOSPOT OF GREEDPREMATURE BURIALRAIGEKIRETURN FROM THE DIFFERENT DIMENSIONREVERSAL QUIZRING OF DESTRUCTIONSANGANSINISTER SERPENTSKY SCOURGE NORLERASSNATCH STEALSNIPE HUNTERTHE FORCEFUL SENTRYTHOUSAND-EYES RESTRICTTIME SEALTRAP DUSTSHOOTTREEBORN FROGTRIBE-INFECTING VIRUSTSUKUYOMIULTIMATE OFFERINGUNITED WE STANDUPSTART GOBLINVICTORY DRAGONWITCH OF THE BLACK FORESTYATA-GARASU NEW! - Accumulated Fortune, All-Out Attacks, Allure of Darkness, Big Piece Golem, Card of Safe Return, Chimeratech Fortress Dragon (Chimeratech Fortress Dragon), Chimeratech Overdragon, Crush Card Virus, Cyber Dragon, Cyber End Dragon, Cyber Twin Dragon, Dairokkan (Sixth Sense), Dark Armed Dragon, Darklord Zerato, Dark Magician of Chaos, Deck Devastation Virus, Destiny Hero - Disk Commander, Epidemic Eradication Virus, Exodia the Forbidden One, Gold Sarcophagus, Judgment Dragon, Life Equalizer, Limiter Removal, Magical Explosion, Megamorph, Meifu no Shisha Goes (Gorz the Emissary of Darkness), Monster Reborn, Morphing Jar, Nobleman of Crossout, Phantom of Chaos, Premature Burial, Return from the Different Dimension, Reversal Quiz, Sangan, Sky Scourge Norleras, Snipe Hunter, Trap Dustshoot, Ultimate Offering, United We Stand, Lava Golem, Upstart Goblin, Cup of Ace, Evil hero Dark Gaia, Gladiator Beast Heraklinos, Gladiator Beast Gyzarus II. Limited Cards You can ONLY use one of the following cards in the Deck & Side Deck combined: ARCANA FORCE 0 - THE FOOLBRAIN CONTROLCARD DESTRUCTIONCARD TROOPERCEASEFIRECHAIN STRIKED.D. Warrior LadyDANDELION (Dandylion)DIMENSION WALLDRASTIC DROP OFFELEMENTAL HERO STRATOSFISSUREGIANT TRUNADEGRAVITY BINDGREEN BABOON, DEFENDER OF THE FORESTHEAVY STORMLEVEL LIMIT - AREA BMAGIC CYLINDERMARSHMALLONMIRROR FORCEMYSTICAL SPACE TYPHOONNECROFACENIGHT ASSAILANTSCAPEGOATSMASHING GROUNDSPIRIT REAPERSWORDS OF REVEALING LIGHTTORRENTIAL TRIBUTETWIN-HEADED BEHEMOTH NEW! - Arcana Force 0 - The Fool, Necroface, Dimension Wall, Drastic Drop Off NEW! - The following cards are no longer Limited: Advanced Ritual Art, Book of Moon, Destiny Hero - Malicious, Foolish Burial, Future Fusion, Left Arm of the Forbidden One, Left Leg of the Forbidden One, Light and Darkness Dragon, Mage Power, Magical Stone Excavation, Magician of Faith, Manticore of Darkness, Mask of Darkness, Metamorphosis, Mind Crush, Neo-Spacian Grand Mole, Ojama Trio, Overload Fusion, Raiza the Storm Monarch, Reinforcement of the Army, Right Arm of the Forbidden One, Right Leg of the Forbidden One, Royal Decree, The Transmigration Prophecy, Wall of Revealing Light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarbleZone Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 Lava Golem, Cup of Ace, The Wicked Dreadroot, Raviel?... I'm not gonna read it all, but I guess I still have a lot of "studying" to do before I can keep up with this game... :/ Seriously, I just never thought of those cards as banworthy at all, I'm not making fun of the list... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Hyperion Posted June 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 Lava Golem' date=' Cup of Ace, The Wicked Dreadroot, Raviel?... I'm not gonna read it all, but I guess I still have a lot of "studying" to do before I can keep up with this game... :/ Seriously, I just never thought of those cards as banworthy at all, I'm not making fun of the list...[/quote'] Lava Golem punishes their opponent who swarm the field. Cup of Ace is a pot of greed that requires luck. The Wicked Dreadlook, Raviel and Valkyrion are all involved in the Dark Gaia OTK, The banlist is here to kill those OTK's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 It would help if i knew what the modifications were from Atem's list, or a link to Atem's list as reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 I hate this ban list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Hyperion Posted June 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 I hate this ban list. care to explain why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jes47 Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 i cant agree with you on all of it but alot i can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b7hamma Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 The Wicked Dreadlook' date=' Raviel and Valkyrion are all involved in the Dark Gaia OTK, The banlist is here to kill those OTK's.[/quote'] I've never seen a good Gaia OTK with Dreadroot or Raviel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 I hate this ban list.care to explain why?Just personal opinion. I can see why you used this as a ban list. Also, why isnt Heraklinos and Gyzarus banned? Those two are broken and this list would make GB's top-tier. I know from experience. Heraklinos is hard to deal with if I cant draw anything that can beat it and Gyzarus has powerful destruction power, is easy to summon with help from E-Hero Prisma and has high ATK. Think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 I stopped reading the list when I got to "Big Piece Golem". Lava Golem' date=' Cup of Ace, The Wicked Dreadroot, Raviel?... I'm not gonna read it all, but I guess I still have a lot of "studying" to do before I can keep up with this game... :/ Seriously, I just never thought of those cards as banworthy at all, I'm not making fun of the list...[/quote'] Lava Golem punishes their opponent who swarm the field. Oh no, a card punishes overextending. BAN IT NOW. Cup of Ace is a pot of greed that requires luck. I like muffins. The Wicked Dreadlook' date=' Raviel and Valkyrion are all involved in the Dark Gaia OTK, The banlist is here to kill those OTK's.[/quote'] Ban Dark Gaia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarbleZone Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 If the OTK bother you so much... why not ban Dark Gaia? I mean, it's the same situation as Chimeratech... EDIT: Oops, Crab Helmet already mentioned it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 If the OTK bother you so much... why not ban Dark Gaia? I mean' date=' it's the same situation as Chimeratech... EDIT: Oops, Crab Helmet already mentioned it.[/quote']Thats better instead of pointlessly banning cards because of Dark Gaia OTK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 Bad Troll is bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pharaoh_Atem Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 Get the hell off my prototype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orochi Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 the answer is not banning ALL the cards involving an OTK, just the main ones... why is the point of banning raviel, deadroot or big piece golem, when you can just ban dark gaia and leave crappy cards alone and free?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Hyperion Posted June 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 Updated the list... if someone cares: Banned:Evil Hero Dark GaiaGladiator Beast HeraklinosGladiator Beast Gyzarus I was first planning to ban Evil Hero Infernal Gainer, but that didn't solve the problem of the Dark Gaia OTK. So I banned Dark Gaia itself aka you guys were right.Banned Gladiator Beast Heraklinos because it's a Horus LV8 and Royal Decree in 1 package.Also banned Gladiator Beast Gyzarus. Removed (unlimited):Destiny Hero - Diamond DudeRaviel, Lord of PhantasmsThe Wicked DreadrootValkyrion the Magna WarriorLava Golem I have no idea why I banned Diamond dude in the first place :SAlso, I have learned that Lava Golem depends too much on your opponent's actions to be Summoned in the first place. And if your opponent swarmed their side of the field in the first place, it's mostly likely that the duel is already over in that same turn they swarmed the field. Also, should I ban Demise? The OTK that resolves around him depends Vanilla insect monsters so Demise can be Summoned with ARA. But isn't those kind of deck depends too much on luck (getting ARA and Demise in time)? I'm still not sure about that. Also, note that Big Piece Golem, Cup of Ace, Dark Gaia, Upstart Goblin, Dimension Wall and Drastic Drop Off are my choices. But even I limited/banned those cards, doesn't mean I'm right. Bad Troll is bad So instead of giving arguments why some cards don't need to be banned or limited, you just come here to flame me? Okay. Also, Pharao_Atem, I had no idea this was a prototype of the banlist. I though it was the final version of the Atem List. Eh... mistakes happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 Why are Dimension Wall and Drastic Drop Off limited? Also, Heraclinos isn't banworthy. It needs 3 monsters on the field to summon, and GBs don't exactly have the best swarming power, so it won't hit the field too early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abstract [Atrocity] Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 Why is Big Piece Golem banned? It's like a bad CyDra.(also, a lot more is wrong, but I don't wanna comment on that, sice it already has been.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pharaoh_Atem Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 Also' date=' Pharao_Atem, I had no idea this was a prototype of the banlist. I though it was the final version of the Atem List. Eh... mistakes happens.[/quote'] You say that like it's a valid excuse for the obvious mistakes you've made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted June 27, 2008 Report Share Posted June 27, 2008 Heraklinos is ban worthy. Gladiator Beasts have pretty good swarming power. I know from first hand experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Dinosaur Posted June 27, 2008 Report Share Posted June 27, 2008 Heraklinos is ban worthy. Gladiator Beasts have pretty good swarming power. I know from first hand experience. Well Secutor helps in that situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted June 27, 2008 Report Share Posted June 27, 2008 Not just Secutor. There's Prisma, Darius, Rescue Cat. There's lots of stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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