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iAmNateXero Newbie

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yes all these cards clearly replaces a free monster reborn for zombies.

 

* SD15-JP001 Red-Eyes Zombie Dragon 「真紅眼の不死竜(レッドアイズ・アンデットドラゴン)」

* SD15-JP002 Darkness Gear - Gokuen 「邪神機(ダークネスギア) ― 獄炎(ごくえん)」

* SD15-JP003 Black Knight of Dark Dragon 「闇竜の黒騎士」

* SD15-JP004 Gernia 「ゲルニア」

* SD15-JP005 Des Lacooda 「デス・ラクーダ」

* SD15-JP006 Vampire's Curse 「カース・オブ・ヴァンパイア」

* SD15-JP007 Blood Sucker 「ブラッド・サッカー」

* SD15-JP008 Red-Moon Baby 「ヴァンパイア ・ ベビー」

* SD15-JP009 Patrician of Darkness 「ノーブル ・ ド ・ ノワー」

* SD15-JP010 Pyramid Turtle 「ピラミッド ・ タートル」 x2

* SD15-JP011 Ryu Kokki 「龍(りゅう)骨(こつ)鬼(き)」

* SD15-JP012 Regenerating Mummy 「再(さい)生(せい)ミイラ」

* SD15-JP013 Reborn Zombie 「リボーン・ゾンビ」

* SD15-JP014 Marionette Mite 「傀儡(くぐつ)虫(ちゅう)」 x2

* SD15-JP015 Zombie Master 「ゾンビ・マスター」 x2

* SD15-JP016 Zombie World 「アンデッドワールド」

* SD15-JP017 Magical Stone Excavation 「魔(ま)法(ほう)石(せき)の採(さい)掘(くつ)」

* SD15-JP018 Enchanted Arrow 「魔(ま)法(ほう)効(こう)果(か)の矢(や)」

* SD15-JP019 Soul Taker 「ソウルテイカー」

* SD15-JP020 Overpowering Eyes 「威圧する魔眼」

* SD15-JP021 Cold Wave 「大寒波」

* SD15-JP022 Card of Safe Return 「生還の宝札」

* SD15-JP023 Creature Swap 「強制転移(きょうせいてんい)」

* SD15-JP025 Call of the Mummy 「ミイラの呼び声」

* SD15-JP026 Different Dimension Capsule 「タイムカプセル」

* SD15-JP027 Pot of Avarice 「貪欲(どんよく)な壺(つぼ)」

* SD15-JP028 Card Destruction 「手札抹殺(てふだまっさつ)」

* SD15-JP029 Field Barrier 「フィールドバリア」

* SD15-JP031 Mask of Restrict 「生贄封じの仮面」

* SD15-JP032 Bottomless Trap Hole 「奈落の落とし穴」

* SD15-JP033 Tutan Mask 「ツタン仮面」

* SD15-JP034 Interdimensional Matter Transporter 「亜空間物質転送装置(あくうかんぶっしつてんそうそうち)」

* SD15-JP035 Dark Mirror Force 「邪悪(じゃあく)なるバリア －ダーク・フォース」

* SD15-JP036 Waboku 「和睦(わぼく)の使者(ししゃ)」

* SD15-JP037 Magical Arm Shield 「マジックアーム・シールド」

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CrabHelmet Newbie

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[quote=ShadowRoxas]
[quote=Crab Helmet]
[quote=ShadowRoxas]
You do realize that even DAD took a hit with the release of this card?
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Ban DAD.

[quote=ShadowRoxas]
Still, you can easily destroy it with other cards.
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I don't care. Ban this card.
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Ban a card that's easily destructible?
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Imperial Order is easily destructible too. Destructibility Does Not Imply Balance.

[quote=ShadowRoxas]
Limit, maybe. Ban, no.
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What makes this card bad at 3 but good at 1?

[quote=ShadowRoxas]
As long as DAD remains Unlimited, this card should too.
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The only reason we would keep DAD at 3 is if we were unable to make changes to the banlist, so in that circumstance this would indeed need to remain at 3. However, assuming that we can change the banlist, send them both to 0.

[quote=Charlie Morae]
[quote=ShadowRoxas]
[quote=Crab Helmet]
[quote=ShadowRoxas]
You do realize that even DAD took a hit with the release of this card?
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Ban DAD.

[quote=ShadowRoxas]
Still, you can easily destroy it with other cards.
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I don't care. Ban this card.
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Ban a card that's easily destructible? Limit, maybe. Ban, no. As long as DAD remains Unlimited, this card should too.
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[img]http://images.wikia.com/yugioh/images/f/f6/SolemnJudgmentCP01-EN-R.jpg[/img]
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Counterability Does Not Imply Balance.

[quote=JesusofChaos]
[quote=Crab Helmet]
Just like Zombies became dead when Macro was released? (Hint: They didn't.)

EDIT: Lawl, "Zombies became dead".
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Edit: Macro will be dead if it becomes popular,
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Just like every deck that involves the graveyard will be dead if Macro becomes popular?

[quote=JesusofChaos]
i cant see many people will side deck it as macro isnt big
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Irrelevant. Ban.

[quote=JesusofChaos]
and there are better counters to DAD.
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Ban DAD too.

[quote=ShadowRoxas]
[quote=Umbra]
[quote=ShadowRoxas]
[quote=Crab Helmet]
[quote=ShadowRoxas]
You do realize that even DAD took a hit with the release of this card?
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Ban DAD.

[quote=ShadowRoxas]
Still, you can easily destroy it with other cards.
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I don't care. Ban this card.
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Ban a card that's easily destructible? Limit, maybe. Ban, no. As long as DAD remains Unlimited, this card should too.
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[img]http://images.wikia.com/yugioh/images/f/f6/SolemnJudgmentCP01-EN-R.jpg[/img]
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[img]http://images.wikia.com/yugioh/images/0/05/PhantomofChaosGLAS-EN-SR.jpg[/img]
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I have no idea what this post is trying to say, so I'd just like to point out that Phantom of Chaos should be banned too.

[quote=Orochi]
[quote=Crab Helmet]
My post was serious. Ban this card.
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why i doubt it??
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b/c u not think it need ban??

[quote=Orochi]
BWT: UMBRA!!! go and write 1000 times "counterability does NOT imply balance" on your board...
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BWT? By Way The?

[quote=Konthestuffedbear]
Perfect side deck card... this will kill a lot of stuff.
I agree w/ crab, this card deserves banning, or at least until the meta's straightened out, limiting.
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If we can alter this card's list position, we can straighten out this meta.

The fact that you suggested Limiting indicates that you don't know why this should be banned.

[quote=Silencerleader]
Just limit it.
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Justify.

[quote=JesusofChaos]
[quote=Konthestuffedbear]
Perfect side deck card... this will kill a lot of stuff.
I agree w/ crab, this card deserves banning, or at least until the meta's straightened out, limiting.
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Against what, the only deck would be macro and this sees so little play thats its hardly worth side decking a card for it
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DAD has some degree of significance in the current meta... >_>

[quote=Exiro]
It would pretty much change the game (D.D. Crow, DAD, DMoC), but banworth?
No.
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Two of the three cards you mention would be banned too, and the third wouldn't be used nearly as much.

[quote=Nate12345]
Im sorry, im bias, i like this card, no i love it! Never ban it, NEVER BaN Dmoc, dont ban this card! La li lu le lo! La li lu le lo! La li lu le lo!
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what is this i dont even

[quote=Nate12345]
zombies suffer too, no book of life.
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You mention Book of Life, but you don't mention Mezuki?



To all of you people who want this Limited: Limit Butterfly Dagger - Elma.

We have a choice either banning this or banning one other specific card. Between the two, I picked this.
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JesusofChaos™ Newbie

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Ban DAD.

 

 

The only reason we would keep DAD at 3 is if we were unable to make changes to the banlist' date=' so in that circumstance this would indeed need to remain at 3. However, assuming that we can change the banlist, send them both to 0.

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Ban DAD.

 

Ban DAD too.

 

Ban DAD.

 

DAD has some degree of significance in the current meta... >_>

 

 

Contradiction but now i see why this should be banned (thanks to chaos remix)

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Why ban this card? Why even limit it? All it does is protect You from Macro, and not many people run Macro. It shuts down the RFG zone and all cards that do that, but it brings the game back to it's early days when use of the RFG zone was extremely limited in use. This card protects the Graveyard, and I feel it shouldn't be touched. Anyone who says otherwise should give Me a list of 10 cards this card can abuse, assuming this card isn't banned or limited, but the list is the way Atem/Crab say it should be.

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Why ban this card? Why even limit it? All it does is protect You from Macro' date=' and not many people run Macro. It shuts down the RFG zone and all cards that do that, but it brings the game back to it's early days when use of the RFG zone was extremely limited in use. This card protects the Graveyard, and I feel it shouldn't be touched. Anyone who says otherwise should give Me a list of 10 cards this card can abuse, assuming this card isn't banned or limited, but the list is the way Atem/Crab say it should be.

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Why ban Butterfly Dagger - Elma? Why even limit it? All it does is protect itself from s/t destruction, and not many people run much of that. It shuts down nothing at all, but brings the game back to it's early days when ATK mattered. This card protects monsters, and I feel it shouldn't be touched. Anyone who says otherwise should give Me a list of 10 cards this card can abuse, assuming this card isn't banned or limited, but the list is the way Atem/Crab say it should be.

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Why ban this card? Why even limit it? All it does is protect You from Macro' date=' and not many people run Macro. It shuts down the RFG zone and all cards that do that, but it brings the game back to it's early days when use of the RFG zone was extremely limited in use. This card protects the Graveyard, and I feel it shouldn't be touched. Anyone who says otherwise should give Me a list of 10 cards this card can abuse, assuming this card isn't banned or limited, but the list is the way Atem/Crab say it should be.

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Why ban Butterfly Dagger - Elma? Why even limit it? All it does is protect itself from s/t destruction, and not many people run much of that. It shuts down nothing at all, but brings the game back to it's early days when ATK mattered. This card protects monsters, and I feel it shouldn't be touched. Anyone who says otherwise should give Me a list of 10 cards this card can abuse, assuming this card isn't banned or limited, but the list is the way Atem/Crab say it should be.

 

Yeah, but Butterfly Dagger - Elma is broken, this card isn't.

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Bolt Hedgehog look him up

 

DING-DING-DING! We have a winner! A 4-card OTK where one card can be any Tuner, one card can be any of a variety of cards with similar effects, and one card needs to be in the graveyard.

 

So, now we have a choice between:

 

A) Banning all Tuner monsters.

 

B) Banning all of the following:

 

Mass Driver

Cannon Soldier

Toon Cannon Soldier

Catapult Turtle

 

C) Banning Bolt Hedgehog

 

D) Banning Royal Impregnable Fortress

 

I chose Option D.

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Limit' date=' maybe. Ban, no.

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What makes this card bad at 3 but good at 1?

 

Well, aren't you trying to say that this card should be banned? There's nothing bad with it at 3, unless you're the one using D.D., Macro, and DAD. I just don't think it should be banned, at least for now.

 

Still' date=' you can easily destroy it with other cards.

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I don't care. Ban this card.

 

Ban a card that's easily destructible? Limit, maybe. Ban, no. As long as DAD remains Unlimited, this card should too.

 

SolemnJudgmentCP01-EN-R.jpg

 

PhantomofChaosGLAS-EN-SR.jpg

 

I have no idea what this post is trying to say, so I'd just like to point out that Phantom of Chaos should be banned too.

 

Okay, I will admit I should've elaborated. He was trying to show that Solemn is a good way to destroy DAD, so I should a picture of PoC, which we all know can copy DAD's effect.

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Luxlord Newbie

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Im sorry but the effect is too simple to ban

sure removing cards from play is a big deck theme but still...

So you want an easy to use 4 card OTK?

 

what?...anyway I now realize what crab was saying

heh I was wrong abut what I said, srry bout that, the more simple the card the more loop holes there are (or at least most of the time...) but yah this card might drive judges nuts...

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i started the combo. *no love*

Yes but you used cards that should be banned.

 

So if any of those cards get banned the combo falls apart. Crab’s only breaks when you ban Royal Impregnable Fortress or Bolt Hedgehog, but doing the latter of which would be stupid.

 

Also another combo:

Royal Impregnable Fortress

Mass Driver

COSR

Zombie Carrier

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