MarbleZone Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 Cheeselord, for somebody who goes on about "internet being sewious business" and all, aren't your posts a little... over-enthusiastic? If the internet isn't important, why are you so agressively attacking somebody whose opinion is simply different than yours? You're making this "serious business", not me. I won't quote because it'd become an excessively large post, but anyway. "Arrogant scrubs should die" - This statement would have had a lot more impact if you weren't acting like one. As it is, too bad, you still tried. "Being unemployed is beyond my control" - 'Kay, I'm quitting college right now to get a job so I can spend it all on cards afterwards. Would I be following your footsteps then, or do you ask your parents to buy you cards? "So now you're a genius?" - Yes, my previous post explicitly states that I consider myself one. "The better player always wins until you factor in luck and really shitty decks." - Shitty decks depending not only on poor strategies but also on how much money you spend on your deck. Point made. "Neither can I, but I make the best out of what I have" - Imagine I have all the commons and a couple of Rares and Super Rares from Light of Destruction, and you buy a complete Lightsworn deck online. My best isn't going to beat your best "if we factor out luck". "Netdecking is proof of skill?" - Originality isn't forbidden online, I think. If only, it's easier to be original, because you have all the cards available. Also, using a top tier in real life or online involves the exact same amount of skill - only in real life, it also involves a lot more money. Do remember that you're stating personal opinions yourself, and nothing makes your opinions equal to facts and my opinions equal to trolling except maybe you thinking they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tekken Ham Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 Cheeselord' date=' for somebody who goes on about "internet being sewious business" and all, aren't your posts a little... over-enthusiastic? If the internet isn't important, why are you so agressively attacking somebody whose opinion is simply different than yours? You're making this "serious business", not me. I won't quote because it'd become an excessively large post, but anyway. "Arrogant scrubs should die" - This statement would have had a lot more impact if you weren't acting like one. As it is, too bad, you still tried.[i']This relates to the fact that Aximil's deck sucks.[/i] "Being unemployed is beyond my control" - 'Kay, I'm quitting college right now to get a job so I can spend it all on cards afterwards. Would I be following your footsteps then, or do you ask your parents to buy you cards? You can get a job during college, and if I asked my parent's they'd beat me."So now you're a genius?" - Yes, my previous post explicitly states that I consider myself one. Wow, I love you you criticise me for being hypocritical about arrogant scrubs. "The better player always wins until you factor in luck and really shitty decks." - Shitty decks depending not only on poor strategies but also on how much money you spend on your deck. Point made.Ok, so I spend under $75 on my deck and therefore I fail because I don't spend over $1000 on a deck. I love your logic.[/sarcasm] "Neither can I, but I make the best out of what I have" - Imagine I have all the commons and a couple of Rares and Super Rares from Light of Destruction, and you buy a complete Lightsworn deck online. My best isn't going to beat your best "if we factor out luck". Skill, is being able to take what you have, and best the people who have everything. Obviously, you lack skill if yo need to level the playing field. "Netdecking is proof of skill?" - Originality isn't forbidden online, I think. If only, it's easier to be original, because you have all the cards available. Also, using a top tier in real life or online involves the exact same amount of skill - only in real life, it also involves a lot more money. Skill, is being able to take what you have, and best the people who have everything. Obviously you lack skill if you need to level the playing field. Do remember that you're stating personal opinions yourself, and nothing makes your opinions equal to facts and my opinions equal to trolling except maybe you thinking they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armageddon08 Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 I think that YCM brings in too many noobs, but this can be good as there will be someone to criticize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aximil Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 This relates to the fact that Aximil's deck sucks. Will you shut up about that? Just play the deck, and you'll see that it's fairly good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarbleZone Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 Cheeselord' date=' for somebody who goes on about "internet being sewious business" and all, aren't your posts a little... over-enthusiastic? If the internet isn't important, why are you so agressively attacking somebody whose opinion is simply different than yours? You're making this "serious business", not me. I won't quote because it'd become an excessively large post, but anyway. "Arrogant scrubs should die" - This statement would have had a lot more impact if you weren't acting like one. As it is, too bad, you still tried.[i']This relates to the fact that Aximil's deck sucks.[/i] So in order to tell him his deck sucks, you call him a retard. Nice. "Being unemployed is beyond my control" - 'Kay, I'm quitting college right now to get a job so I can spend it all on cards afterwards. Would I be following your footsteps then, or do you ask your parents to buy you cards? You can get a job during college, and if I asked my parent's they'd beat me. Yes, I'll add a part-time job to my exam schedule to afford cards. Either that or I can play online without spending a dollar and still duel competitively. "So now you're a genius?" - Yes, my previous post explicitly states that I consider myself one. Wow, I love you you criticise me for being hypocritical about arrogant scrubs. Except I didn't state that arrogant scrubs should die, you did. "The better player always wins until you factor in luck and really shitty decks." - Shitty decks depending not only on poor strategies but also on how much money you spend on your deck. Point made.Ok, so I spend under $75 on my deck and therefore I fail because I don't spend over $1000 on a deck. I love your logic.[/sarcasm] I love how you misinterpret my logic. A person doesn't fail for spending less money on paper cards. He might lose more often because his deck is subpar, lacking the best cards (aka staples) that are overpriced, but on the other hand, that's probably because he's aware of how to spend his earnings properly. "Neither can I, but I make the best out of what I have" - Imagine I have all the commons and a couple of Rares and Super Rares from Light of Destruction, and you buy a complete Lightsworn deck online. My best isn't going to beat your best "if we factor out luck". Skill, is being able to take what you have, and best the people who have everything. Obviously, you lack skill if yo need to level the playing field. Sorry, I'm not a fan of the anime series. "Netdecking is proof of skill?" - Originality isn't forbidden online, I think. If only, it's easier to be original, because you have all the cards available. Also, using a top tier in real life or online involves the exact same amount of skill - only in real life, it also involves a lot more money. Skill, is being able to take what you have, and best the people who have everything. Obviously you lack skill if you need to level the playing field. Again, watch less anime. I can have the most perfectly built Frog Deck (and I say Frog Deck because it involves various Common cards), that most of the time it'll still lose to any decent top tier deck. Do remember that you're stating personal opinions yourself, and nothing makes your opinions equal to facts and my opinions equal to trolling except maybe you thinking they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aximil Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 I love it how you only state the facts, instead of flaming the other person and calling him/her a retard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tekken Ham Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 Cheeselord' date=' for somebody who goes on about "internet being sewious business" and all, aren't your posts a little... over-enthusiastic? If the internet isn't important, why are you so agressively attacking somebody whose opinion is simply different than yours? You're making this "serious business", not me. I won't quote because it'd become an excessively large post, but anyway. "Arrogant scrubs should die" - This statement would have had a lot more impact if you weren't acting like one. As it is, too bad, you still tried.[i']This relates to the fact that Aximil's deck sucks.[/i] So in order to tell him his deck sucks, you call him a retard. Nice.If he honestly thinks he is a great player with that deck then yes, he is a retard. "Being unemployed is beyond my control" - 'Kay, I'm quitting college right now to get a job so I can spend it all on cards afterwards. Would I be following your footsteps then, or do you ask your parents to buy you cards? You can get a job during college, and if I asked my parent's they'd beat me. Yes, I'll add a part-time job to my exam schedule to afford cards. Either that or I can play online without spending a dollar and still duel competitively. Since when is playing online competitive? "So now you're a genius?" - Yes, my previous post explicitly states that I consider myself one. Wow, I love you you criticise me for being hypocritical about arrogant scrubs. Except I didn't state that arrogant scrubs should die, you did.You also stated that I should stop acting like an arrogant scrub. Maybe you should too! "The better player always wins until you factor in luck and really shitty decks." - Shitty decks depending not only on poor strategies but also on how much money you spend on your deck. Point made.Ok, so I spend under $75 on my deck and therefore I fail because I don't spend over $1000 on a deck. I love your logic.[/sarcasm] I love how you misinterpret my logic. A person doesn't fail for spending less money on paper cards. He might lose more often because his deck is subpar, lacking the best cards (aka staples) that are overpriced, but on the other hand, that's probably because he's aware of how to spend his earnings properly.Since when are JD, Herk, DaD, and CCV staples? "Neither can I, but I make the best out of what I have" - Imagine I have all the commons and a couple of Rares and Super Rares from Light of Destruction, and you buy a complete Lightsworn deck online. My best isn't going to beat your best "if we factor out luck". Skill, is being able to take what you have, and best the people who have everything. Obviously, you lack skill if you need to level the playing field. Sorry, I'm not a fan of the anime series. Animu is faggotry, you misinterpret skill and confuse it with animu, if I was rambling on about the "heart of the cards", that is animu, skill is absent in animu. "Netdecking is proof of skill?" - Originality isn't forbidden online, I think. If only, it's easier to be original, because you have all the cards available. Also, using a top tier in real life or online involves the exact same amount of skill - only in real life, it also involves a lot more money. Skill, is being able to take what you have, and best the people who have everything. Obviously you lack skill if you need to level the playing field. Again, watch less anime. I can have the most perfectly built Frog Deck (and I say Frog Deck because it involves various Common cards), that most of the time it'll still lose to any decent top tier deck. Lol, the perfect Frog Deck, and you call me an arrogant scrub. Frogs are casual, tiers are competitive, maybe I could've been more clear. Do remember that you're stating personal opinions yourself, and nothing makes your opinions equal to facts and my opinions equal to trolling except maybe you thinking they do. @Aximil, I love how you think you're good. Thinking is proof that you don't know the facts, which equals a crazy misconception of life, the universe, and everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarbleZone Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 Right. You're already ignoring half of my sentences and focusing on whatever you can hold on to, so I don't see a point in keeping this discussion alive any longer. We've strayed from the original topic enough as it is, and neither one of us seems to be getting through to the other. Regarding your questions: "Since when is playing online competitive?" - why can't it be? Honestly, I'm missing your point here. :/ "Since when are JD, Herk, DaD, and CCV staples?" - JD is staple in Lightsworn, DAD is staple in DARK Decks, and so on. For example, I cannot build a viable draw engine without D-Draws, Allures, Valleys, Stratos, Commander, etc. I have none, since they cost waaay too much, and almost every competitive deck runs some of these cards, either because people were willing to pay for them in real life, or because they are run in online decks. "Frogs are casual, tiers are competitive" - Casual decks are affordable, competitive decks not so much. This has been my point for the entire discussion - online dueling goes around card price issues, making it, in my opinion, a better way to play the game and enjoy it to its full extent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MjRiku Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 It still sucks' date=' now it's just legal. Stop playing retards. You obviously play in the Special Olympics because you win, and you're still a retard.[/quote'] Unnecessary. Grow up. Playing in real life gives better proof of somebody's skill than YVD? I disagree, though I could be mistaken. Obtaining cards in real life seems to me one of the greatest drawbacks of the real game. I for one cannot afford Mirror Force, Judgment Dragon and many of the other big cards. Other people can. I'm at a disadvantage when playing them because of issues beyond my control, regardless of my knowledge of the game.YVD and other online dueling programs/sites go around that problem; with every single card available to everyone, it eventually boils down to skill. This is the way I see things, but I could be wrong, since I don't play seriously in real life and don't duel online either. I actly agree with your Comment! I have a fair few good cards but Money is a Massive problame, i cant afford to pop out and get a Dad or a JD, lets face it i own one Monarch! Funtimes! I have on sevral occiastions beable to win with-out cardss which would be considared the best of the time and suprised people with cards they dont exspect anymore! althoguht i also aggree that there are alode of noobs on the this and other sites, this could be to do with the fact we cant afford serton cards, or more as my second point proves, they relie are just noobs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tekken Ham Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 Right. You're already ignoring half of my sentences and focusing on whatever you can hold on to' date=' so I don't see a point in keeping this discussion alive any longer. We've strayed from the original topic enough as it is, and neither one of us seems to be getting through to the other. [i']But that's what the internet is![/i] Regarding your questions: "Since when is playing online competitive?" - why can't it be? Honestly, I'm missing your point here. :/ Because organised play isn't fun when there is 0% originality. "Since when are JD, Herk, DaD, and CCV staples?" - JD is staple in Lightsworn, DAD is staple in DARK Decks, and so on. For example, I cannot build a viable draw engine without D-Draws, Allures, Valleys, Stratos, Commander, etc. I have none, since they cost waaay too much, and almost every competitive deck runs some of these cards, either because people were willing to pay for them in real life, or because they are run in online decks. How is DaD a DARK staple? Not all decks need a reliable draw engine, GB's don't and Monarchs don't. GB's do not run anything you listed and they're competitive. "Frogs are casual, tiers are competitive" - Casual decks are affordable, competitive decks not so much. This has been my point for the entire discussion - online dueling goes around card price issues, making it, in my opinion, a better way to play the game and enjoy it to its full extent.So when the playing field is perfectly level the game is more fun? What about trashing noobs or winning against a person in the top 20 in your state who's running DaD by lucksack burning with a Marshy? How is that not enjoyable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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