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The Advanced Format will be used at premier events, and the World Championship.

ADVANCED FORMAT LIST CURRENT

 

I. Forbidden Cards

 

You cannot use these cards in your Deck or Side Deck:

 

BLACK LUSTER SOLDIER - ENVOY OF THE BEGINNING

BUTTERFLY DAGGER - ELMA

CALL OF THE HAUNTED

CHANGE OF HEART

CHAOS EMPEROR DRAGON - ENVOY OF THE END

CHIMERATECH FORTRESS DRAGON

CHIMERATECH OVERDRAGON

CONFISCATION

CRUSH CARD VIRUS

CUP OF ACE

CYBER END DRAGON

CYBER TWIN DRAGON

CYBER JAR

CYBER-STEIN

DARK HOLE

DARK MAGICIAN OF CHAOS

DELINQUENT DUO

DEMISE, KING OF ARMAGEDDON

DESTINY HERO - DISK COMMANDER

DIMENSION FUSION

ERADICATOR EPIDEMIC VIRUS

EXCHANGE OF THE SPIRIT

FIBER JAR

GLADIATOR BEAST GYZARUS

GOLD SARCOPHAGUS

GORZ, THE EMISSARY OF DARKNESS

GRACEFUL CHARITY

HARPIE'S FEATHER DUSTER

IMPERIAL ORDER

JUDGMENT DRAGON

LAST TURN

LAST WILL

MACHINE DUPLICATION

MAGE POWER

MAGICAL SCIENTIST

MAGICIAN OF FAITH

MAKYURA THE DESTRUCTOR

METAMORPHOSIS

MIRAGE OF NIGHTMARE

MONSTER REBORN

PAINFUL CHOICE

POT OF GREED

RAIGEKI

RING OF DESTRUCTION

SINISTER SERPENT

SNATCH STEAL

SNIPE HUNTER

SOLAR RECHARGE

THE FORCEFUL SENTRY

THOUSAND-EYES RESTRICT

TIME SEAL

TRADE-IN

TRIBE-INFECTING VIRUS

TSUKUYOMI

UNITED WE STAND

VICTORY DRAGON

WITCH OF THE BLACK FOREST

YATA-GARASU

 

II. Limited Cards

 

You can ONLY use one of the following cards in the Deck & Side Deck combined:

 

ACCUMULATED FORTUNE

ALLURE OF DARKNESS

BRAIN CONTROL

BREAKER THE MAGICAL WARRIOR

CARD DESTRUCTION

CARD OF SAFE RETURN

CARD TROOPER

CEASEFIRE

CHAIN STRIKE

COLD WAVE

D. D. WARRIOR LADY

DARK ARMED DRAGON

DARKLORD ZERATO

DESTINY DRAW

ELEMENTAL HERO STRATOS

EXODIA THE FORBIDDEN ONE

FISSURE

FOOLISH BURIAL

FUTURE FUSION

GIANT TRUNADE

GRAVITY BIND

GREEN BABOON, DEFENDER OF THE FOREST

HEAVY STORM

LEFT ARM OF THE FORBIDDEN ONE

LEFT LEG OF THE FORBIDDEN ONE

LEVEL LIMIT - AREA B

LIGHT AND DARKNESS DRAGON

LIMITER REMOVAL

LIMIT REVERSE

LUMINA,LIGHTSWORN SUMMONER

LYLA, LIGHTSWORN SORCERESS

MAGICAL STONE EXCAVATION

MAGIC CYLINDER

MANTICORE OF DARKNESS

MARSHMALLON

MEGAMORPH

METAMORPHOSIS

MIND CRUSH

MIRROR FORCE

MONSTER GATE

MORPHING JAR

MYSTICAL SPACE TYPHOON

NIGHT ASSAILANT

NOBLEMAN OF CROSSOUT

OJAMA TRIO

PREMATURE BURIAL

RAIZA THE STORM MONARCH

REASONING

REINFORCEMENT OF THE ARMY

RETURN FROM THE DIFFERENT DIMENSION

RIGHT ARM OF THE FORBIDDEN ONE

RIGHT LEG OF THE FORBIDDEN ONE

SANGAN

SCAPEGOAT

SMASHING GROUND

SPIRIT REAPER

SWORDS OF REVEALING LIGHT

THE TRANSMIGRATION PROPHECY

TORRENTIAL TRIBUTE

TRAP DUSTSHOOT

TREEBORN FROG

TWIN-HEADED BEHEMOTH

ULTIMATE OFFERING

WALL OF REVEALING LIGHT

WULF, LIGHTSWORN BEAST

ZOMBIE MASTER

 

 

Dont know what else to do, what do u guys think?

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Did you seriously leave Treeborn Frog at 1?

 

Did you seriously limit Wulf, Lightsworn Beast?

 

Did you seriously ban Trade-In and limit Allure of Darkness?

 

Did you seriously leave Crush Card Virus at 1?

 

Did you seriously leave Deck Devastation Virus at 3?

 

Did you seriously limit Light and Darkness Dragon?

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Did you seriously leave Treeborn Frog at 1?

 

Did you seriously limit Wulf' date=' Lightsworn Beast?

 

Did you seriously ban Trade-In and limit Allure of Darkness?

 

Did you seriously leave Crush Card Virus at 1?

 

Did you seriously leave Deck Devastation Virus at 3?

 

Did you seriously limit Light and Darkness Dragon?

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lol at banning treeborn

 

so in a deck based around milling, swarming shouldn't be stoped?

 

nomi turbo mean anything? slow metta, means more skill is needed.

 

crush is my bad i forgot to rub out the limited part on list.

 

because everyone runs ddv at three in a virus deck?

 

ladd is broken continuous negation is broken, plus sp summon. it was a border line ban card.

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All this time I thought Heraklinos > Gyzarus... :/

Should I "lern2play" or am I half-right?

 

You're completely right and pyramid has no idea how to make a decent banlist.

 

Please explain to me why Treeborn Frog shouldn't be banned?

 

If you don't use 3 Deck Devastation Virus in a Virus Control Deck, you're doing it wrong.

 

Wulf is only good in Lightsworn.

 

Trade-In is banned and Destiny Draw is at 3.

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soz coz i pasted the orginal ban list and forgot loads where limited before so i forgot to delete them. and i did say first draft so iv missed alot out. Heraklinos is less dangerous to the game when Gyzarus is banned. and i agree im no good at making a ban list, so why are you slating my skills and why dont you argue cards that should be included? Itachi [Remix] - metagame must also be doing it wrong (http://metagame.com/yugioh.aspx?tabid=33&ArticleId=9711).

Itachi [Remix] - wulf is tech in nomie turbo. also just because a card is only good in one deck, that doesnt mean i dont need o be banned? well by your logic i should keep jd at three since it only works in lightsworn.

 

Itachi [Remix] - tributing matters as much as sp summoning. its only place is in monarch builds and even then its not always used.

 

Blackwind - you dont need to "learn2play" because thats what i first thought before i changed it.

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So because metagame isn't using 3 copies of a broken card' date=' it shouldn't be banned?

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no you said they were doing it wrong, also the only decks atm the are are running u1500 monsters as tech is gb and bm decks.

 

also this card is harder abuse compared to ccv , eev. also look at decks atm, how many run it as tech for the deck? ( apart from obvious virus control style decks )

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Why did you limit Cold Wave?

 

Why did you limit The Transmigration Prophecy?

 

How is LaDD broken?

 

What's the point of a ban list anyways' date=' when we already have a best one?

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with two ladd negation will be a longer event, so your opponent will be locked down just because u can sp summon 2 monsters in 1 turn for the tribute.

 

The Transmigration Prophecy - good point, soz like i said its my first draft. it does the opisite of what i want to do.

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Why did you limit Cold Wave?

 

Why did you limit The Transmigration Prophecy?

 

How is LaDD broken?

 

What's the point of a ban list anyways' date=' when we already have a best one?

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with two ladd negation will be a longer event, so your opponent will be locked down just because u can sp summon 2 monsters in 1 turn for the tribute.

 

With 2 LADD, both lose 500 ATK and DEF whenever the effect one 1 LADD would activate. There are still no more negations than there otherwise would be.

 

And I'm still waiting for an explanation of those Fusion Monsters.

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Bad arguments' date=' but that's for Crab to handle.

 

 

 

I still await answers to 2 questions.

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sorry the point of limiting cold wave was to take away abit of power of gb decks, plus their is two popular s/t annoyance cards and they are limited this is a popular plus abusable at three.

 

the reason i made the list was to see if i understand how list format is meant to work, and what where the problems with it. since i was no where near making a half decent ban list, i think the results a conclusive.

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Bad arguments' date=' but that's for Crab to handle.

 

 

 

I still await answers to 2 questions.

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sorry the point of limiting cold wave was to take away abit of power of gb decks, plus their is two popular s/t annoyance cards and they are limited this is a popular plus abusable at three.

 

You already took away enough of their power by banning GB Gyzarus. Were Gladiator Beasts top-tire before we got Gyzarus? No.

Cold Wave is a balanced card and shouldn't be limited, no matter where it's used. There is no way to abuse it.

 

Also, why is LaDD broken again? I didn't really understand what you meant when you answered it, and if it meant what Crab thought it meant, it didn't make sense.

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