MarbleZone Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Now that somebody mentioned Dark Hole' date=' that got me thinking. I read somewhere on this forum that Dark Hole could generate as much advantage as Raigeki, or something along those lines. However I'm not sure how that can be, and I'm assuming the author wasn't simply thinking of Dark Hole being a Raigeki when you have no field. Unless you blow up a Sangan (which I believe has become too slow for this meta?), how can you take as much advantage from a Dark Hole as from Raigeki?[/quote'] Dark Hole being a Raigeki when you have no field Unless he thinks Sacred Phoenix is... >_> It's a good thing I have zero credibility in this section to begin with, little I say can make my position any worse, so...Sacred Phoenix could take advantage of being destroyed and then coming back, but Phoenix itself is kind of obsolete nowadays, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Now that somebody mentioned Dark Hole' date=' that got me thinking. I read somewhere on this forum that Dark Hole could generate as much advantage as Raigeki, or something along those lines. However I'm not sure how that can be, and I'm assuming the author wasn't simply thinking of Dark Hole being a Raigeki when you have no field. Unless you blow up a Sangan (which I believe has become too slow for this meta?), how can you take as much advantage from a Dark Hole as from Raigeki?[/quote'] Dark Hole being a Raigeki when you have no field Unless he thinks Sacred Phoenix is... >_> It's a good thing I have zero credibility in this section to begin with' date=' little I say can make my position any worse, so...Sacred Phoenix could take advantage of being destroyed and then coming back, but [b']Phoenix itself is kind of obsolete nowadays, isn't it?[/b]Sacred Toolbox wants a word with you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Yeah it relatively is. But I see it every now and then. Anyone know where I can get a Rageiki? I want one for show. And speaking of overpowered, Creator of Light. Why? IDK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarbleZone Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Sacred Toolbox wants a word with you A lot of decktypes I ignore want a word with me - I don't play the meta, I just like to stay informed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 It's also a last-resort card for people with poor Lightsworn Decks. You my good sir have won the epic fail of the month award And how did I? I was simply saying that if have a terrible Lightsworn Deck, Exchange of Spirit is your last-resort, but you don't need it in a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 It's also a last-resort card for people with poor Lightsworn Decks. You my good sir have won the epic fail of the month award And how did I? I was simply saying that if have a terrible Lightsworn Deck' date=' Exchange of Spirit is your last-resort, but you don't need it in a good one.[/quote'] That may be true, you dont need one, but try think of this card as a tool. I dump, i dont need to use it, but i have 3 JD's in my hand, my opponent has 3 cards in his graveyard, so why not! FLIP! now i summon 1-2 power houses and wait for his imminent doom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 It's also a last-resort card for people with poor Lightsworn Decks. You my good sir have won the epic fail of the month award And how did I? I was simply saying that if have a terrible Lightsworn Deck' date=' Exchange of Spirit is your last-resort, but you don't need it in a good one.[/quote'] That may be true, you dont need one, but try think of this card as a tool. I dump, i dont need to use it, but i have 3 JD's in my hand, my opponent has 3 cards in his graveyard, so why not! FLIP! now i summon 1-2 power houses and wait for his imminent doom. If you have 3 JD's in hand, you don't even need EoS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted June 18, 2008 Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 It's also a last-resort card for people with poor Lightsworn Decks. You my good sir have won the epic fail of the month award And how did I? I was simply saying that if have a terrible Lightsworn Deck' date=' Exchange of Spirit is your last-resort, but you don't need it in a good one.[/quote'] That may be true, you dont need one, but try think of this card as a tool. I dump, i dont need to use it, but i have 3 JD's in my hand, my opponent has 3 cards in his graveyard, so why not! FLIP! now i summon 1-2 power houses and wait for his imminent doom. If you have 3 JD's in hand, you don't even need EoS. just cuz u have 3 in hand doesnt mean u can summon it, with this its almost guarenteed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted June 18, 2008 Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 It's also a last-resort card for people with poor Lightsworn Decks. You my good sir have won the epic fail of the month award And how did I? I was simply saying that if have a terrible Lightsworn Deck' date=' Exchange of Spirit is your last-resort, but you don't need it in a good one.[/quote'] That may be true, you dont need one, but try think of this card as a tool. I dump, i dont need to use it, but i have 3 JD's in my hand, my opponent has 3 cards in his graveyard, so why not! FLIP! now i summon 1-2 power houses and wait for his imminent doom. If you have 3 JD's in hand, you don't even need EoS. just cuz u have 3 in hand doesnt mean u can summon it, with this its almost guarenteed. If you're running a Lightsworn Deck and you have EoS, you most probably have 4 LS's in your graveyard already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cameronsdog Posted June 18, 2008 Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 wicked dreadroot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orochi Posted June 18, 2008 Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 Your avatar qualifies as a stupid picture. HEY!!! don't insult my avatar!! insult my game skills, insult, my comments, even insult my bad wording, but don't mess with my avatar!! EDIT: cameronsdog, urgently learn2play, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted June 18, 2008 Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 It's also a last-resort card for people with poor Lightsworn Decks. You my good sir have won the epic fail of the month award And how did I? I was simply saying that if have a terrible Lightsworn Deck' date=' Exchange of Spirit is your last-resort, but you don't need it in a good one.[/quote'] That may be true, you dont need one, but try think of this card as a tool. I dump, i dont need to use it, but i have 3 JD's in my hand, my opponent has 3 cards in his graveyard, so why not! FLIP! now i summon 1-2 power houses and wait for his imminent doom. If you have 3 JD's in hand, you don't even need EoS. just cuz u have 3 in hand doesnt mean u can summon it, with this its almost guarenteed. If you're running a Lightsworn Deck and you have EoS, you most probably have 4 LS's in your graveyard already. If your using exchange of spirit in lightsworns, you will be disqualified. If you are using it in trad you are playing trad wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted June 18, 2008 Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 wicked dreadroot Not only did you pick the worst set of 'Gods', but you've also picked the worst out of the 3 Wicked Gods.*Facepalm* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyhe Posted June 18, 2008 Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 wicked dreadrootDreadroot pales in comparsion to cards that bring total field destruction,utter negation or anti-draws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted June 18, 2008 Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 Dark Armed Dragon' date=' Judgment Dragon, Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning, Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End, Yata-Garasu. I will give one or more reasons for each. Dark Armed Dragon - Not Ban Worthy (Summoning Conditions are somewhat strict, limiting of vital cards such as Allure of Darkness and Return From the Different Dimension and banning of Dimension Fusion)-Easy to summon with help from Dark Grepher, Prometheus etc.-Powerful effect. Judgment Dragon - Ban Worthy (Rather easy to summon and you get Demise's effect for half the cost)-Rather easy to summon.-Overpowered effect. Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning (Should stay banned)-Extremely easy to summon with help from Graceful Charity.-Somewhat broken effects. Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End (Should stay banned)-Basically the same reasons as BLS - EotB Yata-Garasu (Should stay banned)-Lockdown effect in the form of one card.-Easy to pull of the lock.[/quote']Wait, so DAD is one of the top five most overpowered cards in the game, but at the same time it isn't banworthy? I take it, then, that your ideal banlist only contains four cards.I aint arguing this point over with anyone. Dark Armed Dragon in my personal opinion is not ban worthy but still should be limited. All the other cards I mentioned are easier to summon than Dark Armed Dragon even if their effects are more or less powerful than that of Dark Armed Dragon.Congratulations' date=' you just made a fool of yourself.[/quote']HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA..................................HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHASeriously. I just couldnt help myself. So what your saying is that Im a fool for expressing my own opinion. I think this information is rather accurate.Seriously though' date=' it's rather funny when you say that Dark Armed Dragon is less broken than BLS. Both are ridiculous, but Dark Armed Dragon is far worse. [/quote']When did I say that?BLS and CED are both easier to summon than DAD. If DAD's effect were any more powerful like less strict summoning conditions like JD (when you think about it JD's summoning conditions are somewhat less strict than DAD) then it must get the Ban Hammer like Dimension Fusion did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted June 19, 2008 Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 Dark Armed Dragon' date=' Judgment Dragon, Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning, Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End, Yata-Garasu. I will give one or more reasons for each. Dark Armed Dragon - Not Ban Worthy (Summoning Conditions are somewhat strict, limiting of vital cards such as Allure of Darkness and Return From the Different Dimension and banning of Dimension Fusion)-Easy to summon with help from Dark Grepher, Prometheus etc.-Powerful effect. Judgment Dragon - Ban Worthy (Rather easy to summon and you get Demise's effect for half the cost)-Rather easy to summon.-Overpowered effect. Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning (Should stay banned)-Extremely easy to summon with help from Graceful Charity.-Somewhat broken effects. Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End (Should stay banned)-Basically the same reasons as BLS - EotB Yata-Garasu (Should stay banned)-Lockdown effect in the form of one card.-Easy to pull of the lock.[/quote']Wait, so DAD is one of the top five most overpowered cards in the game, but at the same time it isn't banworthy? I take it, then, that your ideal banlist only contains four cards.I aint arguing this point over with anyone. Dark Armed Dragon in my personal opinion is not ban worthy but still should be limited. All the other cards I mentioned are easier to summon than Dark Armed Dragon even if their effects are more or less powerful than that of Dark Armed Dragon. That still doesn't explain how one of the five most overpowered cards is still not banworthy. Again, by your logic, no more than four cards deserve to be banned. Congratulations' date=' you just made a fool of yourself.[/quote']HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA..................................HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHASeriously. I just couldnt help myself. So what your saying is that Im a fool for expressing my own opinion. I think this information is rather accurate. No, you made a fool out of yourself by using terrible logic. Seriously though' date=' it's rather funny when you say that Dark Armed Dragon is less broken than BLS. Both are ridiculous, but Dark Armed Dragon is far worse. [/quote']When did I say that? When you said that Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning deserved to be banned and that Dark Armed Dragon did not. Use your bloody head. BLS and CED are both easier to summon than DAD. If DAD's effect were any more powerful like less strict summoning conditions like JD (when you think about it JD's summoning conditions are somewhat less strict than DAD) then it must get the Ban Hammer like Dimension Fusion did. DAD's effect essentially destroys every card the opponent controls while leaving your own field untouched. How do you intend to make the effect more powerful, destroy the opponent's entire hand too? Also, Limiting the card would not make it less broken; it would just reward luck more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantasy Dreamz Posted June 19, 2008 Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 i will have to say yata...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahumut Posted June 19, 2008 Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 Raigeki... it is in my opinion THE most powerful spell card in the entire game and not too far away is Harpies Feather Duster' date=' HFD combined with Raigeki = your opponent better have 2 magic jammers waiting or they are in trouble...[/quote'] You are not good at YGO. Your opinion is flawed and based upon lies. Kindly stop peddling your nonsense.what is your problem!!!! my opinion black luster envoy and wicked dreadrootorochi you have a cool avatar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted June 19, 2008 Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 Raigeki... it is in my opinion THE most powerful spell card in the entire game and not too far away is Harpies Feather Duster' date=' HFD combined with Raigeki = your opponent better have 2 magic jammers waiting or they are in trouble...[/quote'] You are not good at YGO. Your opinion is flawed and based upon lies. Kindly stop peddling your nonsense.what is your problem!!!! my opinion black luster envoy and wicked dreadrootorochi you have a cool avatar Wicked Dreadroot is not the most overpowered. F.G.D is better than him, so I wouldn't consider Dreadroot the most overpowered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted June 19, 2008 Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 Raigeki... it is in my opinion THE most powerful spell card in the entire game and not too far away is Harpies Feather Duster' date=' HFD combined with Raigeki = your opponent better have 2 magic jammers waiting or they are in trouble...[/quote'] You are not good at YGO. Your opinion is flawed and based upon lies. Kindly stop peddling your nonsense.what is your problem!!!! my opinion black luster envoy and wicked dreadrootorochi you have a cool avatar I love this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted June 19, 2008 Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 Okay, either Crab Helmet ignored my post, or I somehow managed not to make a stupid one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted June 19, 2008 Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 Okay' date=' either Crab Helmet ignored my post, or I somehow managed not to make a stupid one.[/quote'] I ignored it. Your post was stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted June 19, 2008 Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 How so? I simply said that Wicked Dreadroot was not overpowered, and that F.G.D. was better (The bolded part was probably the stupid part), by which I mean that he can survive against WD. Other than that, neither are overpowered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahumut Posted June 19, 2008 Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 Raigeki... it is in my opinion THE most powerful spell card in the entire game and not too far away is Harpies Feather Duster' date=' HFD combined with Raigeki = your opponent better have 2 magic jammers waiting or they are in trouble...[/quote'] You are not good at YGO. Your opinion is flawed and based upon lies. Kindly stop peddling your nonsense.what is your problem!!!! my opinion black luster envoy and wicked dreadrootorochi you have a cool avatar Wicked Dreadroot is not the most overpowered. F.G.D is better than him, so I wouldn't consider Dreadroot the most overpowered.um dreadroot halfs all monsters except himselfs attack so no fgd is not more powerful. also fgd take five dragons to summon him dread root takes only 3 for only 1000 less atk and a better effect so dread root is better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted June 19, 2008 Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 How so? I simply said that Wicked Dreadroot was not overpowered' date=' and that [b']F.G.D. was better[/b] (The bolded part was probably the stupid part), by which I mean that he can survive against WD. Other than that, neither are overpowered. F.G.D. cannot survive against The Wicked Dreadroot, and using the fact that he has a higher base ATK to prove his superiority is ridiculous; BEWD has a higher base ATK than DAD does. Raigeki... it is in my opinion THE most powerful spell card in the entire game and not too far away is Harpies Feather Duster' date=' HFD combined with Raigeki = your opponent better have 2 magic jammers waiting or they are in trouble...[/quote'] You are not good at YGO. Your opinion is flawed and based upon lies. Kindly stop peddling your nonsense.what is your problem!!!! my opinion black luster envoy and wicked dreadrootorochi you have a cool avatar Wicked Dreadroot is not the most overpowered. F.G.D is better than him, so I wouldn't consider Dreadroot the most overpowered.um dreadroot halfs all monsters except himselfs attack so no fgd is not more powerful. also fgd take five dragons to summon him dread root takes only 3 for only 1000 less atk and a better effect so dread root is betterYou are not good at YGO. Your opinion is flawed and based upon lies. Kindly stop peddling your nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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