Orochi Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Pointless in my opinion. Not even worth trying to run. Everyone's talking about using it as a last resort and all' date=' but your opponent still has to have 7000 LPs more than you. If your opponent has 7000 LPs or less, you can't even activate the card. Besides, if your opponent has 7000 LPs more than you, you deserve to lose.[/quote'] your argument could have logic... unless you make an entire deck about this card to make time... in fact is stupidly easy to have a difference of 7000 life points between you and your opponent... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abstract [Atrocity] Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Monsters: 6A Cat of Ill OmenA Cat of Ill OmenA Cat of Ill OmenThe Six Samurai - IrouThe Six Samurai - IrouThe Six Samurai - Irou Spells: 18Allure of DarknessAllure of DarknessCard DestructionDark World Dealings Dark World Dealings Dark World Dealings Gold SarcophagusHand DestructionHand DestructionHand DestructionInspectionInspectionInspectionReinforcement of the ArmyReinforcement of the ArmyUpstart GoblinUpstart GoblinUpstart Goblin Traps: 16Backs to the WallBacks to the WallBacks to the WallDark BribeDark BribeDark BribeReckless GreedReckless GreedReckless GreedSelf-Destruct ButtonSelf-Destruct ButtonSelf-Destruct ButtonSolemn JudgmentSolemn JudgmentSolemn JudgmentWall of Revealing Light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aelsthla-Mental Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Its a fun card for a MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction [i think thats what it means anyway...]) tactic. Very fun :). What would be funny is if you set it, but then you started winning. After you take their life points down to 1000, while you're at a cool 8000, they use "Reverse of Reverse" (odds of it happening: 0.000000001%, not helped by the fact that outside the anime, the card doesn't exist) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Altair Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 i like to use this card when i'm acting like an as*****. i lol at my opponents when they think they will win, then like other normal gameking members they d/c. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 using this card is pointless, no match can end in a draw both players get a match lost if it does this card is bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Wow, I think I'd better rebuild Tundo's Life Equalizer First Turn Kill and side Self-Destruct Button.Win it all the way to the finals, and then change it to Self-Destruct Button First Turn.... Self-Destruct xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 If you chain this to Poison of the Old Man/Dian Keto' date=' then don't you win? Button Resolves: All LP = 0 ->Poison Resolves: Your LP = 1200 ->Opponent loses. <- amirite?[/quote'] No. Nothing resolves after LP hits zero. Ever. The game ends right there, mid-chain. Q4T That's it in a nutshell. Same with exodia. Your opponent uses Card destruction, you chain Reckless Greed and get the last piece, card destruction doesn't resolve and you win."But it's not fiar! Card destruction will discard exodia, then I win!"Lol that happened to me once... Thats not entirely true. There is a ruling that states during the last four moves of a match that the chain must resolve fully. So if you were a genuis and drew the match out for 40 minutes up until the very last four turns than yes, legaly, you will win the match. Need a source? End-of-Match Procedure When time is called at the end of a round, the current turn of each game that’s still in progress is completed. If a winner is not determined by the end of that turn, play will continue for an additional three turns, starting the count with the opponent’s turn. After the additional three turns, play will stop, and the Match winner will be determined by the following process: • If a winner has not been determined by the end of the additional three turns, the player with the greater Life Point total wins the game. If both players’ Life Points are equal, play continues until the first change in Life Points, at which point the player with the higher Life Point total is the winner. Always resolve all effects that are already on the chain before comparing the players’ Life Points.After the winner of the game in progress has been determined, a player wins the Match if he or she has more game wins than the opponent. If both players have an equal number of game wins, they will start a new game. This game will last for a maximum of four turns, two for each player. Side Decks may not be used before starting this game. At the end of the fourth turn, the player with the greatest Life Point total wins the Match. If the Life Point totals are equal, continue play until the first change in Life Points. Always resolve all effects that are already on the chain before comparing the players’ Life Points. lrn2win... LIKE A PUNK! ^_^ also u can find this in the game policies at... UDE Policies EDIT: P.S. I know this because this is how i would win all my locals for a while. XP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomix Posted June 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Thanks for the comments guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilson91 Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Lol self destruct button. I nned to find a kick a$$ combo for that one XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoPaladin2008 Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 lol look in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fh-Fh Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Monsters: 6A Cat of Ill OmenA Cat of Ill OmenA Cat of Ill OmenThe Six Samurai - IrouThe Six Samurai - IrouThe Six Samurai - Irou Spells: 18Allure of DarknessAllure of DarknessCard DestructionDark World Dealings Dark World Dealings Dark World Dealings Gold SarcophagusHand DestructionHand DestructionHand DestructionInspectionInspectionInspectionReinforcement of the ArmyReinforcement of the ArmyUpstart GoblinUpstart GoblinUpstart Goblin Traps: 16Backs to the WallBacks to the WallBacks to the WallDark BribeDark BribeDark BribeReckless GreedReckless GreedReckless GreedSelf-Destruct ButtonSelf-Destruct ButtonSelf-Destruct ButtonSolemn JudgmentSolemn JudgmentSolemn JudgmentWall of Revealing Light -3 Inspection-3 Irou-3 Backs to the Wall-2 Reinforcement of the army +3 Bark of Dark Ruler+1 Sangan+1 Morphing Jar+3 Dark Mimic LV 3+3 Gift Card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Use only if you don't want to get owned by DAD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fh-Fh Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 I'm SOOOOO going to SJC with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orochi Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 If you chain this to Poison of the Old Man/Dian Keto' date=' then don't you win? Button Resolves: All LP = 0 ->Poison Resolves: Your LP = 1200 ->Opponent loses. <- amirite?[/quote'] No. Nothing resolves after LP hits zero. Ever. The game ends right there, mid-chain. Q4T That's it in a nutshell. Same with exodia. Your opponent uses Card destruction, you chain Reckless Greed and get the last piece, card destruction doesn't resolve and you win."But it's not fiar! Card destruction will discard exodia, then I win!"Lol that happened to me once... Thats not entirely true. There is a ruling that states during the last four moves of a match that the chain must resolve fully. So if you were a genuis and drew the match out for 40 minutes up until the very last four turns than yes, legaly, you will win the match. Need a source? End-of-Match Procedure When time is called at the end of a round, the current turn of each game that’s still in progress is completed. If a winner is not determined by the end of that turn, play will continue for an additional three turns, starting the count with the opponent’s turn. After the additional three turns, play will stop, and the Match winner will be determined by the following process: • If a winner has not been determined by the end of the additional three turns, the player with the greater Life Point total wins the game. If both players’ Life Points are equal, play continues until the first change in Life Points, at which point the player with the higher Life Point total is the winner. Always resolve all effects that are already on the chain before comparing the players’ Life Points.After the winner of the game in progress has been determined, a player wins the Match if he or she has more game wins than the opponent. If both players have an equal number of game wins, they will start a new game. This game will last for a maximum of four turns, two for each player. Side Decks may not be used before starting this game. At the end of the fourth turn, the player with the greatest Life Point total wins the Match. If the Life Point totals are equal, continue play until the first change in Life Points. Always resolve all effects that are already on the chain before comparing the players’ Life Points. lrn2win... LIKE A PUNK! ^_^ also u can find this in the game policies at... UDE Policies EDIT: P.S. I know this because this is how i would win all my locals for a while. XP dude, those applies when is time over and they're counting the last 4 turns to decide a winner, that don't count on normal dueling... so it's easy to stacks with self-destruct button, then using burn spell cards on the time over cout... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Im well aware of that Orochi, yopu have to simply succesfuly S.D. until the initial 40 minutes is up. After that go for the win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
commander mike Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 its ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uchiha Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 I used it...onceME:LP1000OPPONENT:LP8000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow5273 Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 i love Self-Destruct Buttoncard i got a deck built for lowing my lifepoint and uping thier lifepoints if i can remember right i think the last game i play was like 200lp-17000lp =D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abstract [Atrocity] Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Monsters: 6A Cat of Ill OmenA Cat of Ill OmenA Cat of Ill OmenThe Six Samurai - IrouThe Six Samurai - IrouThe Six Samurai - Irou Spells: 18Allure of DarknessAllure of DarknessCard DestructionDark World Dealings Dark World Dealings Dark World Dealings Gold SarcophagusHand DestructionHand DestructionHand DestructionInspectionInspectionInspectionReinforcement of the ArmyReinforcement of the ArmyUpstart GoblinUpstart GoblinUpstart Goblin Traps: 16Backs to the WallBacks to the WallBacks to the WallDark BribeDark BribeDark BribeReckless GreedReckless GreedReckless GreedSelf-Destruct ButtonSelf-Destruct ButtonSelf-Destruct ButtonSolemn JudgmentSolemn JudgmentSolemn JudgmentWall of Revealing Light -3 Inspection-3 Irou-3 Backs to the Wall-2 Reinforcement of the army +3 Bark of Dark Ruler+1 Sangan+1 Morphing Jar+3 Dark Mimic LV 3+3 Gift Card Why take out inspection? Use it 15 times and pay 7500 LP in your opponent standby phase, use button to draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Monsters: 6A Cat of Ill OmenA Cat of Ill OmenA Cat of Ill OmenThe Six Samurai - IrouThe Six Samurai - IrouThe Six Samurai - Irou Spells: 18Allure of DarknessAllure of DarknessCard DestructionDark World Dealings Dark World Dealings Dark World Dealings Gold SarcophagusHand DestructionHand DestructionHand DestructionInspectionInspectionInspectionReinforcement of the ArmyReinforcement of the ArmyUpstart GoblinUpstart GoblinUpstart Goblin Traps: 16Backs to the WallBacks to the WallBacks to the WallDark BribeDark BribeDark BribeReckless GreedReckless GreedReckless GreedSelf-Destruct ButtonSelf-Destruct ButtonSelf-Destruct ButtonSolemn JudgmentSolemn JudgmentSolemn JudgmentWall of Revealing Light -3 Inspection-3 Irou-3 Backs to the Wall-2 Reinforcement of the army +3 Bark of Dark Ruler+1 Sangan+1 Morphing Jar+3 Dark Mimic LV 3+3 Gift Card Why take out inspection? Use it 15 times and pay 7500 LP in your opponent standby phase' date=' use button to draw.[/quote'] That won't work. You can only activate the effect once in his standbye phase, even though it doesn't state that. This is because it has to be activated at a certain time, and not during your Main Phase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomix Posted June 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 I'm glad to see that this topic is such a big thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abstract [Atrocity] Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Monsters: 6A Cat of Ill OmenA Cat of Ill OmenA Cat of Ill OmenThe Six Samurai - IrouThe Six Samurai - IrouThe Six Samurai - Irou Spells: 18Allure of DarknessAllure of DarknessCard DestructionDark World Dealings Dark World Dealings Dark World Dealings Gold SarcophagusHand DestructionHand DestructionHand DestructionInspectionInspectionInspectionReinforcement of the ArmyReinforcement of the ArmyUpstart GoblinUpstart GoblinUpstart Goblin Traps: 16Backs to the WallBacks to the WallBacks to the WallDark BribeDark BribeDark BribeReckless GreedReckless GreedReckless GreedSelf-Destruct ButtonSelf-Destruct ButtonSelf-Destruct ButtonSolemn JudgmentSolemn JudgmentSolemn JudgmentWall of Revealing Light -3 Inspection-3 Irou-3 Backs to the Wall-2 Reinforcement of the army +3 Bark of Dark Ruler+1 Sangan+1 Morphing Jar+3 Dark Mimic LV 3+3 Gift Card Why take out inspection? Use it 15 times and pay 7500 LP in your opponent standby phase' date=' use button to draw.[/quote'] That won't work. You can only activate the effect once in his standbye phase, even though it doesn't state that. This is because it has to be activated at a certain time, and not during your Main Phase. It doesn't say anywhere on the card that there's a once per turn limit, and upperdeck / wikia / netrep didn't have any rulings on any limitations, and there were no erratas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomix Posted June 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 BUMP, i want this thing to be one of the longest disscussion threads :evil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 ooc: lol, that would be epic Solemn on a RftDD and then I used Wall. This was today. He managed to counter Self-Destruct. I was like "YOU SON OF A " But is there a way around Solemn? Can you Solemn another one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uzumakinaruto93 Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 ooc: lol' date=' that would be epic Solemn on a RftDD and then I used Wall. This was today. He managed to counter Self-Destruct. I was like "YOU SON OF A " But is there a way around Solemn? Can you Solemn another one?[/quote'] you can solemn a solemn if thats what you mean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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