critiques are welcome Idea for a generic Rank 4 boss monster that revolves around the number 4.

[But First He Lit It On Fire]

 

Fourtisimo - The Fatal Finale (FIRE)

Rank 4

Pyro / Xyz / Effect

Either 4 Level 4 monsters, OR 4 Monsters with the same Level + 4 Spells OR 4 Traps

Gains original ATK/DEF equal to the single highest ATK & DEF each of this card’s attached materials (Your choice if tied). Cannot be destroyed by battle by, & unaffected by the effects of, cards of any card types (Monster/Spell/Trap) this card has 4 or more attached materials of. During the draw phase (Quick Effect): You can detach 1 material from this card; Until the next draw phase, attach any cards of that detached material’s card type (Monster/Spell/Trap) that would be Banished or sent to the GY to this card instead. If you destroy a monster(s) by battle or Directly Attack your opponent (Quick Effect): You can either Normal Set 1 monster, OR Set 1 Spell/Trap, from your hand, deck or GY.

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(Card art from League of Legends’ Blood Moon skin for Jhin, the Virtuoso)

Edit: After considering feedback from below, I have come up with some changes to the card that I will post here:

 

_Either 4 Level 4 monsters, 4 Link 4 monsters, OR 4 Rank 4 monsters (Transfer their materials)_
_Immediately after you Xyz Summon this card, you can attach 4 Spells/Trap each from your hand and/or field to it as materials. Gains original ATK/DEF equal to the single highest ATK & DEF each of this card’s attached materials (Your choice if tied). Cannot be destroyed by battle by, & unaffected by the effects of, cards of card types (Monster/Spell/Trap) this card has 4 or more attached materials of. During the draw phase (Quick Effect): You can detach 1 material from this card; Until next turn, attach any cards of that detached material’s card type (Monster/Spell/Trap) that would be Banished or sent to the GY to this card instead._
 

SO, I replaced the last effect of the original version of the card (which was a holdover from my original right draft of this card that had the same 4 of stipulation as the protection effect), with a new effect simply let you attach the 4 Spells and/or traps upon its Xyz Summon. I also updated the Xyz materials also allow for using 4 Link 4 OR 4 Rank 4 monsters, transferring any materials that were to attached said Rank 4’s.

 

another edit: In regards to further feedback, I will further amend the card’s summoning needs:

 

_4 Level 4 monsters, 4 Spells, and/or 4 Traps_
_For this card's Xyz Summon, you can treat your Rank/Link 4 monsters as Level 4 monsters for material (Transfer their materials). Gains original ATK/DEF equal to the single highest ATK & DEF each of this card’s attached materials (Your choice if tied). Cannot be destroyed by battle by, & unaffected by the effects of, cards of card types (Monster/Spell/Trap) this card has 4 or more attached materials of. During the draw phase (Quick Effect): You can detach 1 material from this card; Until next turn, attach any cards of that detached material’s card type (Monster/Spell/Trap) that would be Banished or sent to the GY to this card instead._

 

THERE, the 4 Spells and/or Traps are simply listed as additional materials you could use, and the Rank/Link 4’s can be treated as Level 4’s for its Xyz Summon. This should give the card plenty of materials for it’s summon and effects in a non-convoluted way.

 

MORE Edits…: OK, I’ve had some nagging feelings that I just got out of the way with the latest do-over… (Changes will be highlighted)

 

4+ Level/Rank/Link 4 monsters (Transfer their materials), and/or 4+ Spells/Traps
Gains Original ATK/DEF equal to the single highest ATK & DEF each of this card’s attached materials (Your choice if tied). Cannot be destroyed by battle. Unaffected by cards and their effects of card types (Monster/Spell/Trap) this card has 4 or more attached materials of. You can detach 1 material from this card (Quick Effect); Until next turn, attach any cards of that detached material’s card type (Monster/Spell/Trap) that would be Banished or sent to the GY to this card instead. While this card has 4 or more Monsters/Spells/Traps each as attached materials, it can attack all monsters your opponent controls, once each.

THIS TIME, what I did was…

️Fit the full suite of possible Xyz materials into the one line of text…

️Made some phrasing corrections regarding the immunities, as well as separating the Battle Destruction immunity from needing 4 attached monsters (again, for the sake of wording the whole effect, but also to act as a buff to help it LIVE long enough to get those 4+ of each card type as materials)…

️And last but not least: There is a new effect that lets the card attack all monsters your opponent controls, once each, while this card has 4 or more Monsters/Spells/Traps each as attached materials. Given that this card’s maximum possible ATK/DEF under these conditions would be a solid 10,000 (assuming something like a “Five-Headed Dragon” or other monster(s) with 5000 ATK and DEF is attached to this card somehow), AND it would be all but immortal and unstoppable to boot… I’d say it would be worth having to attach 12+ cards to it.

Edited January 26 by But First He Lit It On Fire
Website is being fussy with pics

[not naze]

Pretty cool card. It has some really nice concept.

Quick question, if you summon it with 4 non-lvl4 monsters and 4 spell/traps, do the spell/traps have to be on the field too ? That might be borderline impossible to make i think. Even if you can take them from your hand. But if you can take them from your GY then it would be too strong. 

Also in my opinion the last effect might be a bit too much and not so much in line with its theme. 

Overall it might be a bit hard to balance the card but i like the idea of some kind of a "Dimension Shifter" that attach to himself instead of ban, balanced by the fact it needs 4 monsters. Nice card bro (and Jhin is a perfect fit for it).

[But First He Lit It On Fire]

Well the rough draft for this card had it so that the last effect was dependent on the cards types it had 4 or more of…

If it had four monster materials, then the Normal Set part would be available, and if you had 4+ Spell and/or Trap materials, the Set bits for the Spells and Traps respectively. 

Of course, when I was making the card on the website for real, the text came out comically small on the card, so I had to condense some bits.

As for your main question, the original intent was to have to have the 4 Spells OR Traps be on the field (I wasn’t thinking of anything like your hand idea, and the card IS already somewhere around a hard limit to how much text a real card would realistically have.) I was imagining that the alternative monster material’s requirements (4 monsters of the same Level as opposed to 4 Level 4 monsters specifically) would help even things out, at least for particularly imaginative duelists with the cards to spare. Besides that, the idea was to have a built-in means to let the card take full advantage of it’s protection effects by letting it hit the field with immunities against 2/3d’s of the game’s cards, otherwise it would “only” have the monster-related protections until it’s user could get the other 4 Spells/Traps into it.

[not naze]

I understand a little better what you intended.

Although, I think the alternative summon condition would never be used. 8 cards for 1 is just not a good trade. So this card would effectively only be protected from monsters effects 99% of the time. Except if you trigger his quick effect to attach spell/traps to himself. And even then, there's plenty decks that don't plays 4 spells in one turn. And even less 4 traps.

Furthermore, I think nobody would actually do that. Denying monsters to hit the GY is just way too good of an effect to not chose it, people would chose to attach monsters every single time. You just have to look at how strong Dimension Shifter is to know that !

As you said this card's effect is really long. Maybe you can rewrite it to erase the less useful parts of it, and rework the protection effect. Maybe it could be protected by any cards effects if his materials are equal to a multiple of 4 or something like that ? 

[But First He Lit It On Fire]

Well I could probably swap out the holdover Card Set on monster destruction and direct attack for making the alternative Xyz materials a (Quick Effect) that summons the card from your Extra Deck, GY and/or Banishment, and/or allowing for the spells/traps to also be from your hand.

And then maybe what I could do is make said soon-to-be-cut effect into a Spell or Trap that works on ANY Xyz monster with 4 or more of any Xyz materials of any given card type (monster/spell/trap).

[But First He Lit It On Fire]

THERE, I edited the original post to account for your feedback regarding the Xyz Summon’s requirements. Take a gander and tell me what you think when you have a sec.

As for your critique on the priority absorbing monsters en masse would have over spells/traps… I’ll just say that having that niche use would always be good to have on-hand, especially against any edge-case decks your opponent might run. It might not come up anll that often to mass-attach the Spells or Traps over Monsters, but you’d be happy to be able to do so if the need DID come up.

Edited January 23 by But First He Lit It On Fire

[not naze]

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As for your critique on the priority absorbing monsters en masse would have over spells/traps… I’ll just say that having that niche use would always be good to have

Actually I agree on that point.

As for the changes you made, I think it's way better now ! I have nothing more to say, except maybe again for the alternate summoning condition. Instead of summoning it with only 4 rank 4 xyz or only 4 link 4 (which would be impossible, you would need 8 or 16 monsters respectively to do that), you could do something like Gigantic Spright where it would say:

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4 Level 4 monsters
For this card's Xyz Summon, you can treat Link-4 and Rank-4 monsters you control as Level 4 monsters for material.

And since it would be considered as an effect and not an alternate summoning condition, you could add back the alternate one of "4 monsters of the same level". Even tho I think it makes less sense thematically. Or maybe instead of that you could make it so you can alternatively summon it with only 4 spells/traps on the field (instead of 4 monsters only or 4monsters+4spell/trap).

[But First He Lit It On Fire]

There, I made the edits in the OP. 
_4 Level 4 monsters, 4 Spells, and/or 4 Traps_
_For this card's Xyz Summon, you can treat your Rank/Link 4 monsters as Level 4 monsters for material (Transfer their materials)._ Gains original ATK/DEF equal to the single highest ATK & DEF each of this card’s attached materials (Your choice if tied). Cannot be destroyed by battle by, & unaffected by the effects of, cards of card types (Monster/Spell/Trap) this card has 4 or more attached materials of. During the draw phase (Quick Effect): You can detach 1 material from this card; Until next turn, attach any cards of that detached material’s card type (Monster/Spell/Trap) that would be Banished or sent to the GY to this card instead.

[But First He Lit It On Fire]

THERE, I made another suite of changes. Do let me know how they look to you.