But First He Lit It On Fire Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 (edited) Fourtisimo - The Fatal Finale (FIRE) Rank 4 Pyro / Xyz / Effect Either 4 Level 4 monsters, OR 4 Monsters with the same Level + 4 Spells OR 4 Traps Gains original ATK/DEF equal to the single highest ATK & DEF each of this card’s attached materials (Your choice if tied). Cannot be destroyed by battle by, & unaffected by the effects of, cards of any card types (Monster/Spell/Trap) this card has 4 or more attached materials of. During the draw phase (Quick Effect): You can detach 1 material from this card; Until the next draw phase, attach any cards of that detached material’s card type (Monster/Spell/Trap) that would be Banished or sent to the GY to this card instead. If you destroy a monster(s) by battle or Directly Attack your opponent (Quick Effect): You can either Normal Set 1 monster, OR Set 1 Spell/Trap, from your hand, deck or GY. ATK/? DEF/? (Card art from League of Legends’ Blood Moon skin for Jhin, the Virtuoso) Edit: After considering feedback from below, I have come up with some changes to the card that I will post here: _Either 4 Level 4 monsters, 4 Link 4 monsters, OR 4 Rank 4 monsters (Transfer their materials)_ _Immediately after you Xyz Summon this card, you can attach 4 Spells/Trap each from your hand and/or field to it as materials. Gains original ATK/DEF equal to the single highest ATK & DEF each of this card’s attached materials (Your choice if tied). Cannot be destroyed by battle by, & unaffected by the effects of, cards of card types (Monster/Spell/Trap) this card has 4 or more attached materials of. During the draw phase (Quick Effect): You can detach 1 material from this card; Until next turn, attach any cards of that detached material’s card type (Monster/Spell/Trap) that would be Banished or sent to the GY to this card instead._ SO, I replaced the last effect of the original version of the card (which was a holdover from my original right draft of this card that had the same 4 of stipulation as the protection effect), with a new effect simply let you attach the 4 Spells and/or traps upon its Xyz Summon. I also updated the Xyz materials also allow for using 4 Link 4 OR 4 Rank 4 monsters, transferring any materials that were to attached said Rank 4’s. Edited 1 hour ago by But First He Lit It On Fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not naze Posted Monday at 01:16 AM Report Share Posted Monday at 01:16 AM Pretty cool card. It has some really nice concept. Quick question, if you summon it with 4 non-lvl4 monsters and 4 spell/traps, do the spell/traps have to be on the field too ? That might be borderline impossible to make i think. Even if you can take them from your hand. But if you can take them from your GY then it would be too strong. Also in my opinion the last effect might be a bit too much and not so much in line with its theme. Overall it might be a bit hard to balance the card but i like the idea of some kind of a "Dimension Shifter" that attach to himself instead of ban, balanced by the fact it needs 4 monsters. Nice card bro (and Jhin is a perfect fit for it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
But First He Lit It On Fire Posted Monday at 04:19 AM Author Report Share Posted Monday at 04:19 AM Well the rough draft for this card had it so that the last effect was dependent on the cards types it had 4 or more of… If it had four monster materials, then the Normal Set part would be available, and if you had 4+ Spell and/or Trap materials, the Set bits for the Spells and Traps respectively. Of course, when I was making the card on the website for real, the text came out comically small on the card, so I had to condense some bits. As for your main question, the original intent was to have to have the 4 Spells OR Traps be on the field (I wasn’t thinking of anything like your hand idea, and the card IS already somewhere around a hard limit to how much text a real card would realistically have.) I was imagining that the alternative monster material’s requirements (4 monsters of the same Level as opposed to 4 Level 4 monsters specifically) would help even things out, at least for particularly imaginative duelists with the cards to spare. Besides that, the idea was to have a built-in means to let the card take full advantage of it’s protection effects by letting it hit the field with immunities against 2/3d’s of the game’s cards, otherwise it would “only” have the monster-related protections until it’s user could get the other 4 Spells/Traps into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not naze Posted yesterday at 12:36 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 12:36 AM I understand a little better what you intended. Although, I think the alternative summon condition would never be used. 8 cards for 1 is just not a good trade. So this card would effectively only be protected from monsters effects 99% of the time. Except if you trigger his quick effect to attach spell/traps to himself. And even then, there's plenty decks that don't plays 4 spells in one turn. And even less 4 traps. Furthermore, I think nobody would actually do that. Denying monsters to hit the GY is just way too good of an effect to not chose it, people would chose to attach monsters every single time. You just have to look at how strong Dimension Shifter is to know that ! As you said this card's effect is really long. Maybe you can rewrite it to erase the less useful parts of it, and rework the protection effect. Maybe it could be protected by any cards effects if his materials are equal to a multiple of 4 or something like that ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
But First He Lit It On Fire Posted 2 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 2 hours ago Well I could probably swap out the holdover Card Set on monster destruction and direct attack for making the alternative Xyz materials a (Quick Effect) that summons the card from your Extra Deck, GY and/or Banishment, and/or allowing for the spells/traps to also be from your hand. And then maybe what I could do is make said soon-to-be-cut effect into a Spell or Trap that works on ANY Xyz monster with 4 or more of any Xyz materials of any given card type (monster/spell/trap). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
But First He Lit It On Fire Posted 1 hour ago Author Report Share Posted 1 hour ago (edited) THERE, I edited the original post to account for your feedback regarding the Xyz Summon’s requirements. Take a gander and tell me what you think when you have a sec. As for your critique on the priority absorbing monsters en masse would have over spells/traps… I’ll just say that having that niche use would always be good to have on-hand, especially against any edge-case decks your opponent might run. It might not come up anll that often to mass-attach the Spells or Traps over Monsters, but you’d be happy to be able to do so if the need DID come up. Edited 1 hour ago by But First He Lit It On Fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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