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Benraino Newbie

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Why does Konami do this' date=' it just delays the printing of cards here in America, which delays them getting money. How stupid are they? Plus, I don't think EVERYONE minds the cards.

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I think the reason they do this is to save time. If they didn't change the artwork of cards, people would complain. Thus costing them money to reprint cards with edited images. Plus, if people complain enough, it might make them lose fans of the card game, costing them even more money.

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No. UDE is in charge of the TCG. Konami is in charge of OCG.

 

You obviously don't know precisely WHAT UDE and Konami each control. To explain' date=' we have to explain the entire origin of the game.

 

 

The game as an overarching whole is first in the hands of Shueisha, the publishing company from which everything Yu-Gi-Oh originated. It's from Takahashi's manga idea that the prospect of a card game came about. The Magic and Wizards portion of the Manga saw much more popularity than expected; hence, Takahashi refocused the Manga on it, and Shueisha had the idea to let a company try an RL card game.

 

Toei took a shot. It failed.

 

Konami tried the next time. This game was the Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters Official Card Game, and lasted for ten years, right up until its replacement on its 10th birthday... by the Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D's Official Card Game, its practical and spiritual successor. This new successor is a successor in little more than name, though: we can say that the Duel Monsters OCG is one and the same as the 5D's OCG, meaning that the DM OCG isn't truly ended at all.

 

This second game obviously took off for the stratosphere; that's why it lasted 10+ years in the first place, with 5D's being the only actual reinvention of the game itself.

 

As it was, Upper Deck saw that the game was successful, and the two Asian companies (Shueisha and Konami) saw an outside-of-Asia market that seemed fertile for a new game. The three companies came together and discussed the possibilities.

 

 

Here is where we get to the part where you are wrong.

 

 

Shueisha and Konami demanded that control of the game remain theirs, worldwide - as Shueisha has control over the OCG and merely let Konami do whatever it wanted in most cases, it's Shueisha that has all real control over the game. Shueisha did this because, frankly, it's a big fish in a small pond. In its own domain, it's THE publisher of publishers. Outside of that pond, there are other fish that could tear it up, supposedly. To that end, it keeps a tight grip on its international interests, by keeping all rights to its interests... to itself.

 

(Coincedentally, this is why no card is permanently Prohibited in any company-sponsored Format - Kazuki Takahashi says that no card will be. As he works with Shueisha, his control over the game as a worker with Shueisha, combined with the respect deferred to him by the companies for creating the game concept in the first place, he effectively is the one person with the most control over the game to be publically known.)

 

The control that Shueisha exerts is absolute; it is rarely used, apart from the known cases where Shueisha says "this card is not going to the TCG," or "this card's art and/or name is being changed for the TCG," or "We're making a card, Konami, and it's going to be legal in the OCG immediately. You don't have a choice."

 

(Yes, that's how some OCG promos work - some cards are not made by Konami, but Konami is forced by legal arrangement to admit them into the OCG, UDE then being forced to admit said cards into the TCG as well whenever they come forth.)

 

Anyway, the control exerted by Shueisha is absolute. Konami's is absolute in all cases except where Shueisha would contradict. UDE's is absolute in all cases except where Shueisha and/or Konami would contradict.

 

 

Card names and arts are not translated for the TCG. They are localized. There is an appreciable difference; localization permits change for the sake of the culture and climate of the target audience.

 

Konami and Shueisha both believe that the cultures and climates of the target audience... cannot handle the OCG names and/or images at times.

 

It is HERE that card images and names are changed. In all cases except one, UDE works with the other two to actually diminish or ELIMINATE changes.

 

A past quote by the old head of UDE YGO R&D is: "At least we kept pants off of Opticlops."

 

That one exception is Gyaku-Gire Panda, an incident of domestic violence in the OCG card art. UDE actually requested an art change there.

 

 

UDE's job when it comes to names and images is to 1) fight for a lack of changes most of the time, and 2) when changes are dictated as necessary, make the changes tolerable to the target audiences.

 

For example, a problem of the OCG Destiny Hero Monster Cards' names... was that the constant pattern of "Destiny Hero ______-Guy" seemed less marketable outside of the OCG; UDE made note of this problem in the TCG regions, and assisted Konami in amending names.

 

(Captain Tenacious is one amended name that UDE officially professes a dislike of - but in TCG regions, was found to work better than Diehard-Guy. Taking the lesser of two evils is a proper bargain.)

 

This naming problem was also expected with the Elemental Heroes, but by Konami instead of UDE - hence the lack of "Elemental Hero ______man" monsters in the TCG. The momentary lapse of the lack, shown by Bubble, Clay, and Spark, is a basic abberation of Konami's judgment that the game is used to; Konami is rarely consistent or stable in thought or action.

 

 

 

UDE is, further, in charge of distributing the product and administering TCG Organized Play. That is NOT "UDE being in charge of the TCG." "UDE being in charge of the TCG" would effectively cut it off from the OCG, leaving UDE to take the established TCG and take it in whatever direction it wanted to. It would rule cards however it wished. It would make whatever cards it wished. It would administer judging, Organized Play, and basic card distribution itself... however it wished.

 

UDE does none of those things; not even the TCG-exclusive card creation is a UDE venture, as Konami and Shueisha oversee that venture and step into it at any time. "Vanquishing Light" and "Gladiator Beast Torax" are two examples of cards that are completely obsolete TCG-exclusives: it is believed that Konami and/or Shueisha had a direct hand in such, as it has been alluded to by UDE employees.

 

 

The Unhappy Girl just got unhappier.

 

Wow' date=' they took away what little she had left.

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WTF?! UDE GET A LIFE!!

 

Are you intentionally not reading the posts that folks make in this thread, or are you trying to get us to question your literacy?

 

Heck, UDE employees ARE on the Internet; rather than lie when we tell you you're lying, you could... you know... e-mail UDE and ask them about it.

 

I would say for you to e-mail Konami, but Konami has a nasty habit of not caring much for customer service when it comes to YGO.

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So if a lot of people complain' date=' Konami will go out of business?

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Not out of business, but they will lose business. It is called boycotting. If people aren't happy with the quality of a product they can stop buying said product.

 

Konami is changing the art so people will not complain and negative comments about the company will not be spread. This helps their business by getting more people to continue buying their product.

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