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1- The Apprentices


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1 hour ago, LazerSwordKirbo said:

These cards don't seem to have anything to do with each other aside from the "ultimate sorcerer" name, and the ritual's second effect is very vague about what it can use its replacement effect on.

I'm pretty sure they have everything to do with each other

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The ultimate sorcerer is VERY powerful, allowing you to activate trap cards the turn you play them and being able to come back from your GY at the cost of any card... one of those 2 would need to change for it to be balanced. The ritual and its spell are fine, I really like how they work actually.

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2 hours ago, Loleo said:

The ultimate sorcerer is VERY powerful, allowing you to activate trap cards the turn you play them and being able to come back from your GY at the cost of any card... one of those 2 would need to change for it to be balanced. The ritual and its spell are fine, I really like how they work actually.

How about making it archtype-cards restricted? like this:

........ You can activate your "Ultimate Sorcerer" Quick-Play Spell Cards or Trap Cards the turn they were Set. ........

If that's not enough, maybe we can make the SS effect to be from hand only; like this:
You can Special Summon this card (from your hand) by sending 1 card from your hand or field to the GY. .....

A third option is to make the SS effect be sending an archtype card as a cost:
You can Special Summon this card (from your hand or GY) by sending 1 "Ultimate Sorcerer" card from your hand or field to the GY. ......

9 hours ago, LazerSwordKirbo said:

These cards don't seem to have anything to do with each other aside from the "ultimate sorcerer" name, and the ritual's second effect is very vague about what it can use its replacement effect on.

How is that?

 

8 hours ago, ObexKing said:

I'm pretty sure they have everything to do with each other

<3
How do think about them? those cards are just the foundations of my new archtype

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9 hours ago, Ahmad Alzubi said:

How about making it archtype-cards restricted? like this:

........ You can activate your "Ultimate Sorcerer" Quick-Play Spell Cards or Trap Cards the turn they were Set. ........

If that's not enough, maybe we can make the SS effect to be from hand only; like this:
You can Special Summon this card (from your hand) by sending 1 card from your hand or field to the GY. .....

A third option is to make the SS effect be sending an archtype card as a cost:
You can Special Summon this card (from your hand or GY) by sending 1 "Ultimate Sorcerer" card from your hand or field to the GY. ......

How is that?

 

<3
How do think about them? those cards are just the foundations of my new archtype

I genuinely love this archetype. If it was a real deck I'd run it.

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OK
"The Ultimate Sorcerer of Fear" level 8/DARK/Spellcaster/Effect/Ritual/ATK 2000/DEF 3000
You card can only be Ritual Summoned by the effect of "Ultimate Fear". If this card is Ritual Summoned, add 1 "The Ultimate Sorcerer" from your deck (or GY) to your hand. (Quick effect): When your opponent activates a monster effect negate it and if you do attach that monster to this card (Max 2). This card gains ATK/DEF equal to the ATK/DEF of monsters attached to this card. You can shuffle 2 cards attached to this card into the deck then add 1 Ritual Spell card that mentions any "The Ultimate Sorcerer" monster to your hand. You can only use each effect of "The Ultimate Sorcerer of Fear" once per turn.

"Hansel, The Ultimate Sorcerer of Gluttony" level 6/DARK/Spellcaster/Effect/ATK 2100/DEF 0
Once per turn you can Special Summon this card by sending 1 "The Ultimate Sorcerer" card from your deck to the graveyard. If this card is Special Summoned, add 1 "The Ultimate Sorcerer" Spell card from your deck to your hand. If this card is used as a material for the Ritual Summon of a Ritual "The Ultimate Sorcerer" monster draw 1. You can only use each effect of "Hansel, The Ultimate Sorcerer of Gluttony" once per turn.

"Ultimate Fear" Ritual Spell
(This card is treated as a "The Ultimate Sorcerer" card)
When this card is activated tribute as many monsters (From your hand and/or face-up field) whose total levels equals or exceeds the level 8 then Ritual Summon 1 "The Ultimate Sorcerer of Fear" from your hand or GY. (Quick effect): If your opponent activates an effect and you control "The Ultimate Sorcerer of Fear, you can banish this card from your GY and is you do negate it. You can only activate the second effect of "Ultimate Fear" once per turn.

"When Apprentice Becomes Ultimate" Quick-Play Spell
(This card is treated as a "The Ultimate Sorcerer" card)
When this card is activated shuffle 1 "Apprentice of the Ultimate Sorcerer" monster from your face-up field or GY into the deck, then Special Summon 1 "The Ultimate Sorcerer" from your hand, deck, or GY. You can only activate 1 "When Apprentice becomes Ultimate" once per turn

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