HORUS Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 3 Morphing Jar #21 Needle Worm 1 Swords of Revealing Light1 Level Limit - Area B3 Nightmare's Steel Cage3 Messenger of Peace1 Brain Control3 The Shallow Grave1 Scapegoat1 Monster Reborn2 Book of Moon2 Book of Taiyou 3 All-Out Attacks1 Gravity Bind3 Waboku3 Bottomless Trap Hole3 Negate Attack3 Threatening Roar1 Mirror Force1 Torrential Tribute Side Deck: 3 DDR3 A Feint Plan3 Light Imprisoning Mirror3 Shadow Imprisoning Mirror3 Dust Tornado Maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotfoilcard Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 3 Morphing Jar #21 Needle Worm 1 Swords of Revealing Light1 Level Limit - Area B1 Nightmare's Steel Cage1 Messenger of Peace2 double summon2 shallow grave1 Scapegoat1 lightning vortex1 hammer shot1 shield crush2 book of moon2 book of tayou3 All-Out Attacks1 Gravity Bind2 Waboku3 Bottomless Trap Hole3 Threatening Roar3 Solemn Judgment3 Dark Bribe1 mirror forceSide Deck: 3 DDR3 A Feint Plan3 Light Imprisoning Mirror3 Shadow Imprisoning Mirror3 Dust Tornado Maybe? i made some relatively minor fixes cuz it looked like you were gonna get pwned by a jinzo...wait i see more.. ok i thought the shallow grave > monster reincarnationi added some spell based monster destructionand book of tayou is great so you can go ahead a start the loop on your turn even if you just set an MJ2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abstract [Atrocity] Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 What about shallow Graves instead of Reincarnations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted May 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 I'll replace the Reincarnations with Shallow Graves. Some changes made Can't believe I missed Mirror Force and Torrential Tribute. Books are good. I made this in like 5 minutes. Just so you know, I took out the Bribes and Solemns because around where I live, they are impossible to get due to everyone wanting them but nobody having them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Hyperion Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 Why only 1 Needle Worm? EDIT: And Sangan maybe? So you can search your deck for Needle Worm faster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 yea run 3 needle worm and gravekeepers servant maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 why not run zombie deckout it will be faster just this minus the stull adding in 3 zm 3 pt 3 rk 1 sr 3 ma and 3 sabt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarbleZone Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 Because I think he's trying a new approach at deckout. I know Flips are slow as hell as they are, but maybe Spear Cretin/Soul Reversal/Night Assailant? And yes, 2 more Needle Worms unless I don't understand the deck at all. Which is highly probable since I suck. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotfoilcard Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 Why only 1 Needle Worm? EDIT: And Sangan maybe? So you can search your deck for Needle Worm faster? the deal with one needle worm is that if you run into two needle worms after a morphing jar two the all out attacks loop stops and you have to attack with both needle worms. i personally use more than one needle worm...but anyways thats the reasoning same deal with sangan if i run up into a sangan and a needle worm...the loop stops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armageddon08 Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 Definetely 3 Needle Worms and 2 Gravekeeper's Servants. It would speed it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Hyperion Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 Why only 1 Needle Worm? EDIT: And Sangan maybe? So you can search your deck for Needle Worm faster?same deal with sangan if i run up into a sangan and a needle worm...the loop stops. Attack with Sangan a stronger monster on your opponent's side of the field. There you go, Sangan is in the grave and can search out Morphing #2. Let the looping restart. EDIT: also, The gravekeeprs only slow this deck out. I tried it. Don't do it. I also see no point running All Out Attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotfoilcard Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 Why only 1 Needle Worm? EDIT: And Sangan maybe? So you can search your deck for Needle Worm faster?same deal with sangan if i run up into a sangan and a needle worm...the loop stops. Attack with Sangan a stronger monster on your opponent's side of the field. There you go' date=' Sangan is in the grave and can search out Morphing #2. Let the looping restart.[/quote'] sangan puts it to your hand so the loop will die i mean i ran sangan in the the deck for a while..but trust me the more monsters you have that are not morphing jar 2 the more likely your loop will burn out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoPaladin2008 Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 for those of you who don't get it, this focuses on looping the mj#2 and worm for deckout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tekken Ham Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 This deck will not work, I will post my argument in every thread like this, it will constantly loop and you can never end your turn. If there are fewer than 5 cards in your opponent's Deck when this card's Flip Effect is activated, all remaining cards in the Deck are placed in the Graveyard. The opponent does not lose immediately, but will lose if unable to draw a card when required (such as during their next Draw Phase). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotfoilcard Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 when the loop is not doing anything (like after your opponent has no deck) and you are just swapping monsters into your deck over and over again all out attacks blows up and you can end your turn causing your opponent to lose in his draw phase. look it up on UDE rulings forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tekken Ham Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 Link or it never happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
「tea.leaf」 Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 yea run 3 needle worm and gravekeepers servant maybeThere is a VERY good reason for only running ONE Needle Worm. Hitting 2 Worms with your Jar would kill your loop. Having only 1 Worm makes this loop impossible to stop after it's triggered. Sorry to say' date=' but I don't really like this deck too much. I'll make my version of this in a while.[/s'] Looks like no one uderstands the loop. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benraino Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 Maybe Mind Control over Brain Control because Mind Control can get face-down and Brain Control can't. Looks really good by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotfoilcard Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 Link or it never happened. for cheeselord http://entertainment.upperdeck.com/COMMUNITY/forums/thread/1123387.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted May 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 lol at more than 1 needle worm and GK Servant. If i have 2 Needle Worm, theres a possibility that I will get 2 Needle Worms when Morphing Jar 2 activates, then the loop is over. Cheeselord, if they have 4 cards left and Needle Worm activates, they lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armageddon08 Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 If m jar 2 and shallow grave go bye bye, how do you plan to win> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted May 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 What, is my opponent also running deckout? How am I losing those 6 cards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armageddon08 Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 I'll tell you how: your opponent destroys 2 of your m jars 2 by battle, then you discard your graves with mjar 2s effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
「tea.leaf」 Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 You can't destroy both Morphing Jar #2 by battle, duh. You obviously don't know how this OTK works. Go learn, then talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armageddon08 Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 I meant over the course of the duel, not in one battle phase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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