Titus Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 OMG! Why do we have to give credit for the images we use in our cards now? It's not like we're using someone else's images to make cards to make a profit or anything. We're just using them to make cards for fun. And it's not even like we have to give credit to the person who made it. We just can't take credit for someone else's images. So, by saying "I didn't make the image used for this card" is fine? That's stupid and pointless. We all know most of the people who make cards aren't making their images. Unless you see someone post a card like this, I think it's pretty safe to say that person didn't make the image. And if they did make the image and it looks really nice, then they would probably let you know they made the image. If I could make really nice images for cards, I'd let everyone know about the images I made. I think that posting "I didn't make the image used for this card" or just not trying to take credit at all is basically the same thing. Unless I'm using someone else's images and telling everyone that I made them, I really don't think there is anything wrong. Besides, if someone made an image and wanted to be selfish and not let anyone else use it, they shouldn't have uploaded it on the internet for everyone to see and take it. What are your opinions about this? And If you don't agree with me on this, then that's fine. Say you don't agree all you want. Just don't be rude about it in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EliminateHRN Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 Really the members of DA got pissed off at us (YCM) for using their images so God Kaze made a rule where you have to give credit to the member or you have to ask their permission to use it. Their was a thread about this somewhere wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titus Posted May 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 Really the members of DA got pissed off at us (YCM) for using their images so God Kaze made a rule where you have to give credit to the member or you have to ask their permission to use it. Their was a thread about this somewhere wait. Yeah, well, what can they do to us? If we're only making the images for fun, and we're not making a profit off of them, or claiming the images as our own, then we haven't done anything wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EliminateHRN Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 Really I think they said this site could be such down my MyBB Group (which this forum is running on) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SushiTheLegend Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 Actually it is theft of artwork if you don't credit them, so yes we kinda are, and if the site gets shut down because of idiots like you, then don't start complaining, sheesh if there is a rule just follow it, if you don't like it then go somewhere else. Quite frankly you are just being a stuck up child, you don't like how things are and you don't like it how things aren't going your way and therefore you complain, we do not want DA claiming we are stealing images it's members have made, we want to actually be on good terms with them and no matter what you say things will not change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titus Posted May 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 Actually it is theft of artwork if you don't credit them' date=' so yes we kinda are, and if the site gets shut down because of idiots like you, then don't start complaining, sheesh if there is a rule just follow it, if you don't like it then go somewhere else. Quite frankly you are just being a stuck up child, you don't like how things are and you don't like it how things aren't going your way and therefore you complain, we do not want DA claiming we are stealing images it's members have made, we want to actually be on good terms with them and no matter what you say things will not change.[/quote'] I guess you can't read. And If you don't agree with me on this' date=' then that's fine. Say you don't agree all you want. [b']Just don't be rude about it in this thread.[/b] 1. I'm not an idiot, and for you to call me one for having an opinion shows how mature you are. 2. "...if you don't like it then go somewhere else." That line's been used before and I'm pretty sure you didn't make it up. So, you're stealing someone else's words without giving credit to them. That's called plagiarism. And if you don't agree that you're plagiarizing by saying that, then you shouldn't agree that I'm stealing someone else's images when I use them in a card. 3. Do I not have a right to my opinion? This is the QUESTIONS, Comments, Suggestions forum. Am I not allowed to ask a question here? 4. "Quite frankly", I can put up a very good argument, so if you'd like to continue, then let's go. I really don't care that you're a mod. You're still just another member to me. So if you want to go ahead and edit or delete this post, or whatever, then that's fine by me; which only brings us right back to #1, "[that] shows how mature you are.", if you even are a mod in this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SushiTheLegend Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 Lulz...and you are trying to say I can't argue just the same right back? Okay first of all I have not been rude at all, I am merely stating MY OPINION, therefore GTFO. Second of all, wtf are you on about I could say every word you have said is copied from someone else, written stories and the likes have been created by someone else whereas simple quotes and setences are another thing all together, so again GTFO. Thirdly you are not asking a question, you are whining that the rules are unfair, therefore your total side to this arguement is NULL. Fourthly, I wouldn't even go as far to delete your posts and threads even if I could because it just isn't my job, however calling me immature just because you don't like what I'm saying just shows how immature you really are, next fail please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikaeo Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 Hey Titus, is it really that hard to post image credits? If it is, then that would mean you are just being lazy. And if you have pics on your computer that you saved a while ago and can't remember who owns them, then just don't use the pic, or look for it online again to see who made it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Impact™ Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 some people are really lazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titus Posted May 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 Wow, pretty much all of that was completely false. If you're gonna argue your point, do it right. And again with the numbers... 1. I never said you couldn't argue your opinion back. I was talking about how rude you were. Which brings us to #2. 2. You haven't been rude at all? "...if the site gets shut down because of idiots like you..." and "...you are just being a stuck up child..." Do you know me? Didn't think so. For the first quote...you called me an idiot, before you knew anything about me. How exactly is that not rude? And for the second quote...I'm being a stuck up child? Ok, I never said I wasn't going to do it, which would be the "stuck up" part, and I'm not a child. 3. "Second of all, wtf are you on about I could say every word you have said is copied from someone else, written stories and the likes have been created by someone else whereas simple quotes and setences are another thing all together..." Uh, I guess I get what you're saying here, but I can barely understand that. Try some punctuation next time. And ok, so now you're saying when you use like a sentence or a quote that of something bigger of what someone else said, then you're not plagiarizing? Well, what if I crop an image someone else made to use in my cards? Am I not stealing because I'm only using part of the image? 4. "...you are not asking a question..." Why do we have to give credit for the images we use in our cards now? So' date=' by saying "I didn't make the image used for this card" is fine?[/quote'] What are your opinions about this? I actually asked 3' date=' so, point proven. 5. I really don't recall calling you "immature". I remember saying "...shows how mature you are.", but I never actually called you "immature". And so far, you've called me an idiot and a stuck up kid, when I haven't called you any names at all. 6. I get it now. You've proven your point, even though you acted like you did in doing so. We credit the images because that site may get shut down if you don't, and you still want to be friends with DA. See, now I answered that in 1 sentence. It took you 4 paragraphs, along with criticism towards me, for you to say that. But anyway, it was fun. I like debates (or fights...whatever you call it) like this. I would have liked it more without the name calling, but still. Hope we can move on from this. Hey Titus, is it really that hard to post image credits? If it is, then that would mean you are just being lazy. And if you have pics on your computer that you saved a while ago and can't remember who owns them, then just don't use the pic, or look for it online again to see who made it. You don't get my point. Did you even read my whole post? It's not that I don't remember who made the images on my old cards, it's that I don't know who makes the images on ANY of my cards. I find all my pics on Google or PhotoBucket. And the rules for posting cards is that you don't actually have to give credit to the person making them, you just have to not claim the image as your own. So, if I say "I don't claim the images in my cards as my own," then I'm fine. So that's pointless. And I'm NOT lazy. Lazy's got nothing to do with it. I already have the disclaimer in my sig, which shows up on all my posts, so lazy isn't a factor in this. My point was merely that it's pointless if we're not forced to give credit as long as say we don't claim the images. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SushiTheLegend Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 I don't really see "Baka" and "Stuck Up Child" not once did I say you WAS a child, I said you are BEING one, meaning you are acting like one, as for punctuation please just go away...nobody is perfect and I certainly ain't. Also...I will argue my points the way I want to, I don't care if you don't like it, you know what to if you don't like it. Oh yeah...what is so hard to understand about the second point? There was nothing hard about it at all, stop with this nonsense. You said I insulted you, however everything I said was my OPINION, therefore you were saying I could not argue my opinion, I may not know you but acting the way you did in an outburst doesn't give me a good impression of you. Also...you've proven your point but I was referring to the first thing you actually posted being...OMG! Why do we have to give credit for the images we use in our cards now? It's not like we're using someone else's images to make cards to make a profit or anything. We're just using them to make cards for fun. Yes you did indeed ask a question, but that attitude was uncalled for, you would not like it if you made something, put it up to get people's opinions much like GFX artists like myself do, then have someone put it on there signature, card and not even say it was made by you, which is the reason for it, not to mention having other sites report us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titus Posted May 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 I don't really see "Baka" and "Stuck Up Child" not once did I say you WAS a child' date=' I said you are BEING one, meaning you are acting like one...[/quote'] Where the @$%# did "Baka" come from? And saying something, and meaning something is two completely different things. If you said I was BEING a child, that means you're saying I AM a child. Whether you meant "acting" is another story. I'm not a mind reader. Oh, and when you called me an idiot, did you really mean I was acting like an idiot? ...as for punctuation please just go away...nobody is perfect and I certainly ain't. Also...I will argue my points the way I want to' date=' I don't care if you don't like it, you know what to if you don't like it.[/quote'] Yeah...no thanks. I never said you were perfect. But you could at least throw in some periods every now and then. I never insulted your grammar or your spelling, because I'm not a teacher. I was just letting you know how hard it was to read what you said. SHEESH! Oh yeah...what is so hard to understand about the second point? There was nothing hard about it at all' date=' stop with this nonsense. You said I insulted you, however everything I said was my OPINION, therefore you were saying I could not argue my opinion, I may not know you but acting the way you did in an outburst doesn't give me a good impression of you.[/quote'] Fine then. Here is my opinion of you. I think you're a jerk. I think you don't think before you talk to people. You're annoying. I think you are very immature. And, I think you're the idiot here. But that's just my opinion. And if you're mad at me for saying this, then you know how I feel about you. Yes you did indeed ask a question' date=' but that attitude was uncalled for, you would not like it if you made something, put it up to get people's opinions much like GFX artists like myself do, then have someone put it on there signature, card and not even say it was made by you, which is the reason for it, not to mention having other sites report us.[/quote'] Ok, you are getting really aggravating. You just keep changing the subject so you can have something to fire back at me. You said I wasn't asking a question, so I pointed out 3 questions I asked. THEN, instead of admitting you were wrong, or even defending yourself, you try to find another fault in me so you don't look bad. AND HOW DID I HAVE AN ATTITUDE?! All I did was ask why we had to put credits for the pics we use! If you see an attitude in that, then your senses are impaired. I never said I wouldn't give credit, and I never complained about doing it. I only asked WHY WE HAD TO and why I thought it was pointless. And you are COMPLETELY missing my point! Pay attention to the next thing I say, because I'm getting sick of saying it! I'll even put it in bold for you. I am not saying giving credit to people for their art is pointless and stupid. I'm saying that being able to just put "I do not claim these images as my own" instead of giving credit is pointless. If we had to give actual credit to the actual people who made them, then that would be a totally different story." If you still don't get what I'm saying, then I can't explain it any more. If you still want to argue about how I'm lazy, or how I'm complaining, or whatever, then go ahead. If you want to keep trashing me because you don't want to look bad, then be my guest. But instead of me thinking that you're immature, it'll show you how immature you are and how stupid some people can be. Just remember who started this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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