Problamatico Posted August 12, 2022 Report Share Posted August 12, 2022 Spirit Ryu Ascended Level: 8 Attribute: Wind Type: Dragon / Spirit ATK: 1500 DEF: 1500 Effect: Cannot be Special summoned except from the hand by tributing one "Spirit Ryu" from your side of the field. During the End Phase of the turn this card is summoned: Return it to the hand. Each time your opponent activates a card effect while this card is face-up on your side of the field: Pay 2000 LP; negate it. During your Battle Step, if this card battles (Quick Effect): Excavate 10 cards from the top of your deck. Send all Dragon type monsters excavated by this effect to your GY; this card gains 1000 ATK for each Dragon type monster sent to the GY by this effect until the end of your Battle Phase. Shuffle the remaining cards back into the deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamazenta the OS-Tan Fan Posted August 13, 2022 Report Share Posted August 13, 2022 Why are all of its effects mandatory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Problamatico Posted August 13, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2022 I originally thought about making the negate optional, but I saw it as an opportunity to nerf it. Like your opponent uses it to drain your life points just by playing. Kind of balances the fact that this can otk in one attack if your deck is built right. Just now, Problamatico said: 20 minutes ago, Zefra Zamazenta said: Why are all of its effects mandatory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamazenta the OS-Tan Fan Posted August 13, 2022 Report Share Posted August 13, 2022 3 hours ago, Problamatico said: I originally thought about making the negate optional, but I saw it as an opportunity to nerf it. Like your opponent uses it to drain your life points just by playing. Kind of balances the fact that this can otk in one attack if your deck is built right. But this card is already balanced cards that are too balanced sees no play its like everyone in YCM wants to make their cards over balanced its not like this card has 2500 or 3K ATK then I would get it but its a Spirit monster too man everyone wants their cards too be too balance which makes the cards Weak and non META that's dumb what's the logic behind that you want this card to see play at leased make it more playable no Serisoly Power Creep exist this card sucks fix it little its too balanced and too fair cards that are too balanced and fair see no play and it doesn't destroy the cards it negates! >:( even Lightness and Darkness Dragon, and Baron de Fleur! is better >:( I may make OP cards but I don't make them either too stupidly weak or balanced. Just look at the last 2 sets we have been getting POTE and DABL even those cards are way better and both Tears and Splight are Tier 0 Decks at latest make this card META Viable but in a balanced way that Konami makes strong cards good but not too balanced hiding its Ability to be played >:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nyx Avatar Posted August 13, 2022 Report Share Posted August 13, 2022 15 hours ago, Zefra Zamazenta said: But this card is already balanced cards that are too balanced sees no play its like everyone in YCM wants to make their cards over balanced its not like this card has 2500 or 3K ATK then I would get it but its a Spirit monster too man everyone wants their cards too be too balance which makes the cards Weak and non META that's dumb what's the logic behind that you want this card to see play at leased make it more playable no Serisoly Power Creep exist this card sucks fix it little its too balanced and too fair cards that are too balanced and fair see no play and it doesn't destroy the cards it negates! >:( even Lightness and Darkness Dragon, and Baron de Fleur! is better >:( I may make OP cards but I don't make them either too stupidly weak or balanced. Just look at the last 2 sets we have been getting POTE and DABL even those cards are way better and both Tears and Splight are Tier 0 Decks at latest make this card META Viable but in a balanced way that Konami makes strong cards good but not too balanced hiding its Ability to be played >:( Zefra...not everything needs to be meta. Users can experiment. Try to give some constructive criticism to threads moving forward 16 hours ago, Problamatico said: Spirit Ryu Ascended Level: 8 Attribute: Wind Type: Dragon / Spirit ATK: 1500 DEF: 1500 Effect: Cannot be Special summoned except from the hand by tributing one "Spirit Ryu" from your side of the field. During the End Phase of the turn this card is summoned: Return it to the hand. Each time your opponent activates a card effect while this card is face-up on your side of the field: Pay 2000 LP; negate it. During your Battle Step, if this card battles (Quick Effect): Excavate 10 cards from the top of your deck. Send all Dragon type monsters excavated by this effect to your GY; this card gains 1000 ATK for each Dragon type monster sent to the GY by this effect until the end of your Battle Phase. Shuffle the remaining cards back into the deck. Also, this thread's on the wrong section. I'm gonna move it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loleo Posted August 13, 2022 Report Share Posted August 13, 2022 I think this card is well made! I was a little concerned with how deep it can excavate, but it's fairly difficult to set up and has a powerful but not broken payoff! If you want to avoid your opponent draining you to death, all you have to do is play a card that turns off its effects or just removes it from the field! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamazenta the OS-Tan Fan Posted August 14, 2022 Report Share Posted August 14, 2022 6 hours ago, Loleo said: I think this card is well made! I was a little concerned with how deep it can excavate, but it's fairly difficult to set up and has a powerful but not broken payoff! If you want to avoid your opponent draining you to death, all you have to do is play a card that turns off its effects or just removes it from the field! I think of all the set up you need to do with it on top of being a Spriit monster which that is not only garbage but its kinda unsearchable so I think this card is balanced but its too fair for its pay offs of all the Set up you need to do and Spirit Decks are table 500 and not even Rough I can't even play this in other Dragon Decks that are good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nyx Avatar Posted August 14, 2022 Report Share Posted August 14, 2022 11 hours ago, Zefra Zamazenta said: I think of all the set up you need to do with it on top of being a Spriit monster which that is not only garbage but its kinda unsearchable so I think this card is balanced but its too fair for its pay offs of all the Set up you need to do and Spirit Decks are table 500 and not even Rough I can't even play this in other Dragon Decks that are good. Then make a friendly suggestion to the card. Something that you think would improve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamazenta the OS-Tan Fan Posted August 14, 2022 Report Share Posted August 14, 2022 9 hours ago, The Nyx Avatar said: Then make a friendly suggestion to the card. Something that you think would improve it. I will I do come off as harsh sometimes but I will Try to. On 8/12/2022 at 7:45 PM, Problamatico said: Spirit Ryu Ascended Level: 8 Attribute: Wind Type: Dragon / Spirit ATK: 1500 DEF: 1500 Effect: Cannot be Special summoned except from the hand by tributing one "Spirit Ryu" from your side of the field. During the End Phase of the turn this card is summoned: Return it to the hand. Each time your opponent activates a card effect while this card is face-up on your side of the field: Pay 2000 LP; negate it. During your Battle Step, if this card battles (Quick Effect): Excavate 10 cards from the top of your deck. Send all Dragon type monsters excavated by this effect to your GY; this card gains 1000 ATK for each Dragon type monster sent to the GY by this effect until the end of your Battle Phase. Shuffle the remaining cards back into the deck. Can You please eitheir remove the Spirit Trait and the effect for it to to return to your hand so it can stick around on your op turn plus its hard to summon and has small stats or atleast make it eaiser to Summon or give it bigger stats with protection or make its pay off way better right now the card is too overly balanced this is the power level of a card that is 2011 even Shootng Quzar Dragon a Level 12 Synchro is way better then this Sh!tty card its hard to summon as well but atleast it has big stats can float and has an easier Omini Negate with no cost so if you goona make it hard to Summon Remove the Spirit Trait and the effect for it to return to the hand and give it 1000 more ATK or make its ATK 3000 with 2500 DEF and with Amzing Protection so that atlreaset I'm geating a great F***ing pay off with this thing right now the pay off is a Spirit that F***ing returns to my during my EP and I have to build my Deck a certin way and its hard to Summon even Konami if they made this card hard to summon atleaset it would have to have good pay offs to be Rough or META but mosly a Great Rough option we arent living in F***ing 2005 or 2010 anymore and we have alot better options for Omni Negates with bigger stats that are not only Genric but easy to Summon as well your card doesnt need to be likre that but COME ON MAN! it has 1500 ATK/DEF and its a Level 8 and its hard to Summon along with being a Spirit and returning to your hand before your opp stats their turn and has no protection sersiosly man what are of Yugioh of are you living in I'm sorry If I came of harsh, rude, and insulating but atleast make the pay offs worth it if its this hard to summon and its a spirit monster this wouldn't even be Rough this card is either Table 500 and below so please consider making this card Stronger and maybe a little bit less fair I know I make OP cards but this is the very opposite of what I make even cards Released in all of 2022 have a higher power level then this card Level 8 Spirit with low stats and hard to Summon No Good so my advice is look at some good Rough or META Staple cards you don't have to make this card OP but atleaset make it somewhat unfair for the opp and so they can pay around its Negate thats why I said to make it optional because atleaset that was the only saving grace this card hard now the card is complete garbage if it only had bigger stats didn't return to your hand the turn you Summoned it and had an optional Omi Negate I still don't think this card would even be Rough Buddy but I think it would be alot more playable then its current state. On 8/13/2022 at 3:38 PM, Loleo said: I think this card is well made! I was a little concerned with how deep it can excavate, but it's fairly difficult to set up and has a powerful but not broken payoff! If you want to avoid your opponent draining you to death, all you have to do is play a card that turns off its effects or just removes it from the field! NO! I'm not using Skill Drain or something else just to keep it on the field and prevent my OPP from Killing me thats Dumb not only that but we have Lightness and Darkness which is way better and can Falot and even Genric Negates like Dragoon or Barron De Fleur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animav Posted August 14, 2022 Report Share Posted August 14, 2022 30 minutes ago, Zefra Zamazenta said: I will I do come off as harsh sometimes but I will Try to. Can You please eitheir remove the Spirit Trait and the effect for it to to return to your hand so it can stick around on your op turn plus its hard to summon and has small stats or atleast make it eaiser to Summon or give it bigger stats with protection or make its pay off way better right now the card is too overly balanced this is the power level of a card that is 2011 even Shootng Quzar Dragon a Level 12 Synchro is way better then this Sh!tty card its hard to summon as well but atleast it has big stats can float and has an easier Omini Negate with no cost so if you goona make it hard to Summon Remove the Spirit Trait and the effect for it to return to the hand and give it 1000 more ATK or make its ATK 3000 with 2500 DEF and with Amzing Protection so that atlreaset I'm geating a great F***ing pay off with this thing right now the pay off is a Spirit that F***ing returns to my during my EP and I have to build my Deck a certin way and its hard to Summon even Konami if they made this card hard to summon atleaset it would have to have good pay offs to be Rough or META but mosly a Great Rough option we arent living in F***ing 2005 or 2010 anymore and we have alot better options for Omni Negates with bigger stats that are not only Genric but easy to Summon as well your card doesnt need to be likre that but COME ON MAN! it has 1500 ATK/DEF and its a Level 8 and its hard to Summon along with being a Spirit and returning to your hand before your opp stats their turn and has no protection sersiosly man what are of Yugioh of are you living in I'm sorry If I came of harsh, rude, and insulating but atleast make the pay offs worth it if its this hard to summon and its a spirit monster this wouldn't even be Rough this card is either Table 500 and below so please consider making this card Stronger and maybe a little bit less fair I know I make OP cards but this is the very opposite of what I make even cards Released in all of 2022 have a higher power level then this card Level 8 Spirit with low stats and hard to Summon No Good so my advice is look at some good Rough or META Staple cards you don't have to make this card OP but atleaset make it somewhat unfair for the opp and so they can pay around its Negate thats why I said to make it optional because atleaset that was the only saving grace this card hard now the card is complete garbage if it only had bigger stats didn't return to your hand the turn you Summoned it and had an optional Omi Negate I still don't think this card would even be Rough Buddy but I think it would be alot more playable then its current state. NO! I'm not using Skill Drain or something else just to keep it on the field and prevent my OPP from Killing me thats Dumb not only that but we have Lightness and Darkness which is way better and can Falot and even Genric Negates like Dragoon or Barron De Fleur I fail to see how this doesn't win you the game by just existing. It being a Spirit matters little when, unlike most (or all?) other Spirit monsters, this one can actually Special Summon itself with 1 Level 4 Tribute that can probably be searched by any Dragon support card in the game. Then you Summon this, and you pretty much can go through your combos uninterrupted, and if your opponent somehow broke the search for this card, that still means they wasted it on that rather than on the combos you should be pulling off afterwards. I personally think that rather than being underwhelming, this card is pretty much a better LADD (that can mill cards a la Desires, but face-up and into the GY instead, at that), and definitely needs a little bit of balancing if this were going to become a real card. Also, this card has inherent protection, considering that it negates every single thing your opponent might try to do to it during your turn, thrice, and that's more than enough for a Spirit monster since their whole motif is not sticking around until the opponent's turn anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KH911 Posted August 15, 2022 Report Share Posted August 15, 2022 2 hours ago, Zefra Zamazenta said: I will I do come off as harsh sometimes but I will Try to. Can You please eitheir remove the Spirit Trait and the effect for it to to return to your hand so it can stick around on your op turn plus its hard to summon and has small stats or atleast make it eaiser to Summon or give it bigger stats with protection or make its pay off way better right now the card is too overly balanced this is the power level of a card that is 2011 even Shootng Quzar Dragon a Level 12 Synchro is way better then this Sh!tty card its hard to summon as well but atleast it has big stats can float and has an easier Omini Negate with no cost so if you goona make it hard to Summon Remove the Spirit Trait and the effect for it to return to the hand and give it 1000 more ATK or make its ATK 3000 with 2500 DEF and with Amzing Protection so that atlreaset I'm geating a great F***ing pay off with this thing right now the pay off is a Spirit that F***ing returns to my during my EP and I have to build my Deck a certin way and its hard to Summon even Konami if they made this card hard to summon atleaset it would have to have good pay offs to be Rough or META but mosly a Great Rough option we arent living in F***ing 2005 or 2010 anymore and we have alot better options for Omni Negates with bigger stats that are not only Genric but easy to Summon as well your card doesnt need to be likre that but COME ON MAN! it has 1500 ATK/DEF and its a Level 8 and its hard to Summon along with being a Spirit and returning to your hand before your opp stats their turn and has no protection sersiosly man what are of Yugioh of are you living in I'm sorry If I came of harsh, rude, and insulating but atleast make the pay offs worth it if its this hard to summon and its a spirit monster this wouldn't even be Rough this card is either Table 500 and below so please consider making this card Stronger and maybe a little bit less fair I know I make OP cards but this is the very opposite of what I make even cards Released in all of 2022 have a higher power level then this card Level 8 Spirit with low stats and hard to Summon No Good so my advice is look at some good Rough or META Staple cards you don't have to make this card OP but atleaset make it somewhat unfair for the opp and so they can pay around its Negate thats why I said to make it optional because atleaset that was the only saving grace this card hard now the card is complete garbage if it only had bigger stats didn't return to your hand the turn you Summoned it and had an optional Omi Negate I still don't think this card would even be Rough Buddy but I think it would be alot more playable then its current state. NO! I'm not using Skill Drain or something else just to keep it on the field and prevent my OPP from Killing me thats Dumb not only that but we have Lightness and Darkness which is way better and can Falot and even Genric Negates like Dragoon or Barron De Fleur First of all this monster isn't 1500 ATK, it's going to be between 5500 and 11500 ATK considering you mill 10 cards, and at least 4 will be dragon type. Next, this card has a potentially infinite use omni negate, so it most definitely has protection. Sure most of the time it's 3 uses (which is alot), but if you can increase your lp, then it can be used even more. Lastly, and most importantly, it mills up to 10 dragons, most probably 4 or 5. Do you know how good that is? How much GY synergy dragons have? Future fusion didn't get errata'd because it can fusion summon, but because it can mill 5 dragons. This card mills up to double that amount. That's essentially a +5 at least. This card is insanely good, and the fact that it's a Spirit is irrelevant because even if it returns to hand, you got so much out of it that you either win (11500 ATK otk) or you use your GY to set up an unbreakable board in MP2. I'm sure if you actually thought about the potential uses instead of some knee jerk reaction to it being a Spirit monster you would realize how good it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Problamatico Posted August 15, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2022 3 hours ago, Zefra Zamazenta said: I will I do come off as harsh sometimes but I will Try to. Can You please eitheir remove the Spirit Trait and the effect for it to to return to your hand so it can stick around on your op turn plus its hard to summon and has small stats or atleast make it eaiser to Summon or give it bigger stats with protection or make its pay off way better right now the card is too overly balanced this is the power level of a card that is 2011 even Shootng Quzar Dragon a Level 12 Synchro is way better then this Sh!tty card its hard to summon as well but atleast it has big stats can float and has an easier Omini Negate with no cost so if you goona make it hard to Summon Remove the Spirit Trait and the effect for it to return to the hand and give it 1000 more ATK or make its ATK 3000 with 2500 DEF and with Amzing Protection so that atlreaset I'm geating a great F***ing pay off with this thing right now the pay off is a Spirit that F***ing returns to my during my EP and I have to build my Deck a certin way and its hard to Summon even Konami if they made this card hard to summon atleaset it would have to have good pay offs to be Rough or META but mosly a Great Rough option we arent living in F***ing 2005 or 2010 anymore and we have alot better options for Omni Negates with bigger stats that are not only Genric but easy to Summon as well your card doesnt need to be likre that but COME ON MAN! it has 1500 ATK/DEF and its a Level 8 and its hard to Summon along with being a Spirit and returning to your hand before your opp stats their turn and has no protection sersiosly man what are of Yugioh of are you living in I'm sorry If I came of harsh, rude, and insulating but atleast make the pay offs worth it if its this hard to summon and its a spirit monster this wouldn't even be Rough this card is either Table 500 and below so please consider making this card Stronger and maybe a little bit less fair I know I make OP cards but this is the very opposite of what I make even cards Released in all of 2022 have a higher power level then this card Level 8 Spirit with low stats and hard to Summon No Good so my advice is look at some good Rough or META Staple cards you don't have to make this card OP but atleaset make it somewhat unfair for the opp and so they can pay around its Negate thats why I said to make it optional because atleaset that was the only saving grace this card hard now the card is complete garbage if it only had bigger stats didn't return to your hand the turn you Summoned it and had an optional Omi Negate I still don't think this card would even be Rough Buddy but I think it would be alot more playable then its current state. NO! I'm not using Skill Drain or something else just to keep it on the field and prevent my OPP from Killing me thats Dumb not only that but we have Lightness and Darkness which is way better and can Falot and even Genric Negates like Dragoon or Barron De Fleur Here. Good enough for ya? Cannot be Special summoned except from the hand by tributing one "Spirit Ryu" from your side of the field. Each time your opponent activates a card effect while this card is face-up on your side of the field: You can pay 2000 LP; negate it. During either player's Battle Step, if this card battles (Quick Effect): Excavate 10 cards from the top of your deck. Send all Dragon type monsters excavated by this effect to your GY; this card gains 1000 ATK for each Dragon type monster sent to the GY by this effect until the end of your Battle Phase. Shuffle the remaining cards back into the deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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