Festive Magician of Faith

[Sleepy]

Festive Magician of Faith
LIGHT Level 1 [Spellcaster/Christmas/Flip/Effect] 400/300
FLIP: Target 1 Spell Card in your GY; either add it to your hand or add to your hand 1 of your banished cards with the same name.
If you control this face-down card: You can reveal it to target 1 Spell Card in your opponent's GY; add it to their hand, and if you do, change this card to face-up Defense Position.

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I wonder now if I updated her power a bit too much... she doesn't do her self-flip effect if the opponent has no spells to be given, and she can recycle self-banish GY effects from Spells.... I can only think of the Zombie World support Spells that'd do that but you can always use the Fiendish Monarch's search effect, or offset Spell Striker's Summoning cost, or just be able to target cards that got lost while under Dark Law or Shenshen. Stuff like that.

As always, the Christmas sub-type only has in common with the others I've made this month in the fact that it gives to the opponent a little something in the spirit of the holidays xD
I wanted it to be a lot more concret across the board as a subtype but I'm working with fanart of cards that are all over the place xP

@Rayfield Lumina
Here's another entry to my shameless double-point scheme of using activity boosting contribution xP

[Loleo]

I think for the second effect she would have to reveal herself as cost? I'm having a hard time figuring out how you actually can activate the second effect.

[Rayfield Lumina]

For starters I'd say the buff was more than necessary, the original version is simply disappeared from existence and sadly powercreep is powercreep. There are quite the number of archetypes that like their Spell banishing, this would be a pretty nice addition for Sky Striker or Prophecy to name a couple.

I'm worried about the second effect myself. If you wish it to be an experimental effects of sorts, by all means it's A-OK, but I'm failing to remember the effect of a monster that is Ignition effect and works while face-down. I can remember Big Shield Gardna, Amaterasu and Deus X-Krawler, all the 3 of them are Quick Effects that trigger when something tries to target them. I'm not opposed to the effect, but perhaps right now is not mechanically possible?

I have a doubt as well. Would the normal FLIP effect activate as well if you use effect 2? It would seem to be the case. Main Phase: You Normal Set this card, activate the effect and flip it, activate that effect and since it has Flipped, you go for effect 1, I think.

[Sleepy]

7 minutes ago, Rayfield Lumina said:

For starters I'd say the buff was more than necessary, the original version is simply disappeared from existence and sadly powercreep is powercreep. There are quite the number of archetypes that like their Spell banishing, this would be a pretty nice addition for Sky Striker or Prophecy to name a couple.

I'm worried about the second effect myself. If you wish it to be an experimental effects of sorts, by all means it's A-OK, but I'm failing to remember the effect of a monster that is Ignition effect and works while face-down. I can remember Big Shield Gardna, Amaterasu and Deus X-Krawler, all the 3 of them are Quick Effects that trigger when something tries to target them. I'm not opposed to the effect, but perhaps right now is not mechanically possible?

I have a doubt as well. Would the normal FLIP effect activate as well if you use effect 2? It would seem to be the case. Main Phase: You Normal Set this card, activate the effect and flip it, activate that effect and since it has Flipped, you go for effect 1, I think.

I made this thinking of Deus X Krawler actually.
From your post and Loleo's (yes I'm not ignoring or forgetting the above posts but I'm gonna tackle both together here xP )
Hmm so the issue is that this card targets by its effect before it is even flipped up or shown.... this means I should probably add a "reveal this card" before I do the targeting clause.

Other than that, spell speed in the effect wouldn't play a roll in the effect being possible or not since at the end of the day both this and X Krawler are set monsters that flip themselves up as the main action.... trigger or no trigger, both are face-down and still enabled so I am having issues grasping the problem on that area.

To the last question, yes, that's the point of the second effect, to trigger the flip of the first effect without having to wait too long xP Although this interaction is the reason I'm thinking I might have gone a bit overboard with the powercreep (not so much the "can choose banished cards" bit, which still needs a copy of the banished card to still exist in the GY to be targeted to even work....)

[Rayfield Lumina]

28 minutes ago, Sleepy said:

I made this thinking of Deus X Krawler actually.
From your post and Loleo's (yes I'm not ignoring or forgetting the above posts but I'm gonna tackle both together here xP )
Hmm so the issue is that this card targets by its effect before it is even flipped up or shown.... this means I should probably add a "reveal this card" before I do the targeting clause.

Other than that, spell speed in the effect wouldn't play a roll in the effect being possible or not since at the end of the day both this and X Krawler are set monsters that flip themselves up as the main action.... trigger or no trigger, both are face-down and still enabled so I am having issues grasping the problem on that area.

To the last question, yes, that's the point of the second effect, to trigger the flip of the first effect without having to wait too long xP Although this interaction is the reason I'm thinking I might have gone a bit overboard with the powercreep (not so much the "can choose banished cards" bit, which still needs a copy of the banished card to still exist in the GY to be targeted to even work....)

Mhm, I think revealing would solve the problem like Loleo and you are suggesting. I'm... having my worries in regard of the whole panorama. It NEEDS the speed, so I don't want to mess with the fact that she can evilly flip herself up immediately after being Normal Set, but applying two things at once? Here's an idea: Perhaps you could make her second effect (Quick Effect), but you give her a clause so, if you flip her face up during the turn she's Summoned, she cannot use activate her FLIP effect. So, you retain the speed to use effect 2, but you can only go for the combo if you wait until the next turn, giving your opponent at least a chance to counter this, which is not very likely, but it'a a possibility, and in turn you're able to Flip her during the opponent's turn in case something menaces her. How does this sound?

EDIT: Because I'm subnormal AF, I didn't notice that effect 2 adds the spell to the opponent's hand, omg, perhaps one of my parents dropped me and I landed on my head when I was very little LMAO. Ok, nevermind the suggestion, this looks good as is >_<''

[Sleepy]

17 minutes ago, Rayfield Lumina said:

Mhm, I think revealing would solve the problem like Loleo and you are suggesting. I'm... having my worries in regard of the whole panorama. It NEEDS the speed, so I don't want to mess with the fact that she can evilly flip herself up immediately after being Normal Set, but applying two things at once? Here's an idea: Perhaps you could make her second effect (Quick Effect), but you give her a clause so, if you flip her face up during the turn she's Summoned, she cannot use activate her FLIP effect. So, you retain the speed to use effect 2, but you can only go for the combo if you wait until the next turn, giving your opponent at least a chance to counter this, which is not very likely, but it'a a possibility, and in turn you're able to Flip her during the opponent's turn in case something menaces her. How does this sound?

EDIT: Because I'm subnormal AF, I didn't notice that effect 2 adds the spell to the opponent's hand, omg, perhaps one of my parents dropped me and I landed on my head when I was very little LMAO. Ok, nevermind the suggestion, this looks good as is >_<''

You sure? xD
You don't need to go at yourself that hard. I for one was still careful about an instant "grab a spell from your GY" effect when this card uses both effects so I still found merit on the possibility my card needed further restrictions, so it wouldn't have been too out there. Especially because your opponent is not targeting their own Spell they are getting and since it is your turn, they won't be using it until their turn comes around anyways..... Also, this card is not hard OPT so if you can find ways to flip this card down multiple times in a turn you can keep doing it so long as the opponent has spells in the GY to keep giving them. You can turn your hand of 3 Book of Moons into 3 spells of your choice from your GY xP

[Loleo]

I almost would go so far as adding a third effect leaving the other 2 as is (with the reveal condition of course) and the third one would allow her to flip herself face-down by giving more gifts