Jinzo Returner = Fodder?

[「tea.leaf」]

So, I was thinking about this card, and I thought it might be kinda good.

 

All you need is Returner on field, Enemy Controller and a Jinzo in the grave.

 

Sac Returner for Enemy Controller.

Take control of opponent Monster, Special Summon Jinzo.

Attack with Monsters, or sac for big monster, your choice.

 

It's simple, and probably unoriginal, but it gives this guys some merit, right?

[CrabHelmet]

Misses the Timing.

[「tea.leaf」]

Wait...

 

Crap, sorry about that. >..<

 

I still don't really understand that concept. :/

[CrabHelmet]

Wait...

 

Crap' date=' sorry about that. >..<

 

I still don't really understand that concept. :/

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There are 6 types on monster effects:

 

Ignition - A Spell Speed 1 effect that you choose to activate during your Main Phase. Example: Zombie Master's effect.

 

Trigger - A Spell Speed 1 effect that activates under certain conditions. Example: the effect of any Monarch.

 

Multi-Trigger - A Spell Speed 2 effect. Example: Horus LV8's effect, D.D. Crow's effect.

 

Continuous - An effect that does not use the chain and that is applied as long as the monster remains face-up on the field. Example: Jinzo's effect.

 

Summon - An effect that relates to how a monster can (or can't) be summoned. Example: the "This card cannot be Special Summoned from the Graveyard" effect of The Creator.

 

Flip - I think we all know what these are.

 

Missing the Timing applies to Trigger monster effects. There are two types of Trigger effects:

 

Optional Trigger - An effect that the player an opt to not activate if that player wishes. For example, Poison Draw Frog's Trigger effect says "When this face-up card on the field is sent to the Graveyard (unless it was attacked while face-down and destroyed as a result of battle), you can draw 1 card from your Deck." The word "can" shows that the effect does not need to activate if the player does not want it to.

 

Compulsory Trigger - An effect that must activate when the situation arises, regardless of the player's wishes. For example, Sangan's effect says "When this card is sent from the field to the Graveyard, select 1 monster with an ATK of 1500 or less from your Deck, show it to your opponent, and add it to your hand. Then shuffle your Deck." No word like "can" or "may" is present; the effect is required to activate, so it is Compulsory.

 

Missing the Timing applies only to Optional Trigger Effects.

 

Basically, if the situation that activates the Optional Trigger effect occurs during a chain, it must be the last thing to happen in the chain; otherwise, the effect is not permitted to activate. In this case, Jinzo - Returner's effect is Optional Trigger, since it says "When this card is sent to the Graveyard, you can Special Summon 1 "Jinzo" from your Graveyard. Destroy it during your End Phase." In your example, here is the order of things that happen:

 

1) Jinzo - Returner goes to the graveyard.

2) Control of the opponent's monster is switched.

 

Since control of the opponent's monster was switched after Jinzo - Returner was sent to the graveyard, sending Jinzo - Returner to the graveyard was not the lat thing that happened during the chain, so he Misses the Timing.