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Supreme Dragon of the 5 Elements [Can be support for Spirit Cards with Dragons]


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Supreme Dragon of the 5 Elements

Level 9.

Attribute LIGHT.

Type Dragon / Spirit


"This card cannot be Special Summoned. During your End Phase, discard 1 level 5 or higher monster or return this card to your hand.  If there are 5 or more Dragon-Type Monsters in the GY with different attributes (except LIGHT), this Monster's ATK/DEF becomes equal to the combined ATK/DEF of the 5 Dragon-Type monsters in your GY with highest ATK. While you control this face-up monster, monsters with the same Attribute as a non-LIGHT Dragon-Type monster in your GY cannot declare an attack and have their effects negated."

What is your opinion about this card?

Carlos Animax.

 

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Amazing! This is perfectly fine as is, but I have a couple of personal tweaks.

 

A couple little things

?ATK DEF has only one question mark (unless you're doing that for fun and I would say put 5)

 

1. I get why your excluding light (maybe blue-eyes?) but you don't have to with some tweaks. 

2. No effects or attacking is a little rough and to add character I think only the effects should be negated.

3. Alternate maintenance:  During your End Phase, discard a monster and return a Dragon Type monster with a different attribute then the discarded monster to the bottom of your deck or return this card to your hand.

4. Alternate ATK: the lowest ATK Dragons in your GY (which probably isn't great) but better: the top 5 Dragons in your GY

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14 hours ago, Loleo said:

Amazing! This is perfectly fine as is, but I have a couple of personal tweaks.

 

A couple little things

?ATK DEF has only one question mark (unless you're doing that for fun and I would say put 5)

 

1. I get why your excluding light (maybe blue-eyes?) but you don't have to with some tweaks. 

2. No effects or attacking is a little rough and to add character I think only the effects should be negated.

3. Alternate maintenance:  During your End Phase, discard a monster and return a Dragon Type monster with a different attribute then the discarded monster to the bottom of your deck or return this card to your hand.

4. Alternate ATK: the lowest ATK Dragons in your GY (which probably isn't great) but better: the top 5 Dragons in your GY

Hi Bro, thank you so much. <3

In fact, I has a little help with PCST in a group in discord of YU-GI-OH! :3

0. About that "?", I can't add other the system block another symbol. Hehe.

1. Oh I exclude Light why this Monster is Light, and for more just, cuz I including, can be more broken, but you how tweak? :D

2. Oh, oks, thank you, because can be some broken, right? :D

3. Hooo, very good, with that can be recycle cards, and more speed, thank you. :D

4. Yes is true, because can extremely strong your attack with the highest ATK and be unfair, right?

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15 hours ago, Loleo said:

Amazing! This is perfectly fine as is, but I have a couple of personal tweaks.

 

A couple little things

?ATK DEF has only one question mark (unless you're doing that for fun and I would say put 5)

 

1. I get why your excluding light (maybe blue-eyes?) but you don't have to with some tweaks. 

2. No effects or attacking is a little rough and to add character I think only the effects should be negated.

3. Alternate maintenance:  During your End Phase, discard a monster and return a Dragon Type monster with a different attribute then the discarded monster to the bottom of your deck or return this card to your hand.

4. Alternate ATK: the lowest ATK Dragons in your GY (which probably isn't great) but better: the top 5 Dragons in your GY

How you see?

Is better? :D

 

Supreme Dragon of the 5 Elements

Level 9.

Attribute LIGHT.

Type Dragon / Spirit


"This card cannot be Special Summoned. During your End Phase, discard a Monster and return a Dragon-Type monster with a different Attribute, then the discarded Monster to the bottom of your Deck or return this Card to your Hand.  If there are 5 or more Dragon-Type Monsters in the GY with different attributes (except LIGHT), this Monster's ATK/DEF becomes equal to the combined ATK/DEF of the 5 Dragon-Type monsters in the top of your GY with lowest ATK. While you control this face-up Monster, Monsters with the same Attribute as a non-LIGHT Dragon-Type monster in your GY their effects negated."


Carlos Animax.

 

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Im actually in a mood for full fixes this time:

Cannot be Special Summoned. This card Original ATK/DEF is equal to total combine ATK/DEF of up to 5 monster with the highest attack(s) among Dragon and/or Spirit monster in your GY. While you control this Normal Summoned card, other monster(s) on the field other than Spirit monster that shares Attribute(s) with Dragon and/or Spirit Monster(s) in your GY has its effect negated. Once per turn, during the End Phase of your turn: Return this card to the hand unless you Discard a monster and then shuffle a Dragon or Spirit monster in your GY other than the discarded card to your deck

Ok there like alot to unpack here, first this is the modern spirit monster ability clause:

Cannot be Special Summoned. [...] Once per turn, during the End Phase, if this card was Normal Summoned or flipped face-up this turn: Return it to the hand.

Well we take a bit of spin here, that unlike reguler spirit monster that specified only return in the same turn as it appears on the field this is actively trying to get back to your hand as continuous clause, hence my modification on the fixes 

The other suggestion i bring to the table is that it also (trully) support the Spirit monster by having it also work with spirit the same way it work with dragon hence "and/or" wordings 

As for the card, Its actually kinda fine. Bit bonkers in attack department but its a spirit monster...they meant to have high impact to ofset the weakness of returning (also in this card case the lack [but balance!] of immunity

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24 minutes ago, Dokutah Gory, Woundslinger said:

Im actually in a mood for full fixes this time:

Cannot be Special Summoned. This card Original ATK/DEF is equal to total combine ATK/DEF of up to 5 monster with the highest attack(s) among Dragon and/or Spirit monster in your GY. While you control this Normal Summoned card, other monster(s) on the field other than Spirit monster that shares Attribute(s) with Dragon and/or Spirit Monster(s) in your GY has its effect negated. Once per turn, during the End Phase of your turn: Return this card to the hand unless you Discard a monster and then shuffle a Dragon or Spirit monster in your GY other than the discarded card to your deck

Ok there like alot to unpack here, first this is the modern spirit monster ability clause:

Cannot be Special Summoned. [...] Once per turn, during the End Phase, if this card was Normal Summoned or flipped face-up this turn: Return it to the hand.

Well we take a bit of spin here, that unlike reguler flip monster that specified only return in the same turn as it appears on the field this is actively trying to get back to your hand as continuous clause, hence my modification on the fixes 

The other suggestion i bring to the table is that it also (trully) support the Spirit monster by having it also work with spirit the same way it work with dragon hence "and/or" wordings 

As for the card, Its actually kinda fine. Bit bonkers in attack department but its a spirit monster...they meant to have high impact to ofset the weakness of returning (also in this card case the lack [but balance!] of immunity

Oh my god Bro, thank you so much for Fix it, I go to fix.

Thank you so much for take your time for fix the text of my card, you and @Loleo are awesome. <3

Is better? :D

I add other thing. n.n

 

Supreme Dragon of the 5 Elements

Level 9.

Attribute LIGHT.

Type Dragon / Spirit


"Cannot be Special Summoned. This card Original ATK/DEF is equal to total combine ATK/DEF of up to 5 Monster with the highest attack(s) among Dragon and/or Spirit monster in your GY. While you control this Normal Summoned Card, other Monster(s) on the Field other than Spirit Monster that shares Attribute(s) with Dragon and/or Spirit Monster(s) in your GY has its effect negated. If this card leaves the field for Opponent's Battle or Card Effect(s), select 5 Dragon/Spirit Monster of your GY, send to Deck and shuffle, if you do, for each Card send it, can Banish a Card of Field. Once per turn, during the End Phase of your Turn: Return this Card to the hand, unless you Discard a Monster and then Shuffle a Dragon or Spirit Monster in your GY other than the discarded Card to your Deck."

Carlos Animax.

 

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6 hours ago, carlos animax said:

Oh my god Bro, thank you so much for Fix it, I go to fix.

Thank you so much for take your time for fix the text of my card, you and @Loleo are awesome. <3

Is better? :D

I add other thing. n.n

 

Supreme Dragon of the 5 Elements

Level 9.

Attribute LIGHT.

Type Dragon / Spirit


"Cannot be Special Summoned. This card Original ATK/DEF is equal to total combine ATK/DEF of up to 5 Monster with the highest attack(s) among Dragon and/or Spirit monster in your GY. While you control this Normal Summoned Card, other Monster(s) on the Field other than Spirit Monster that shares Attribute(s) with Dragon and/or Spirit Monster(s) in your GY has its effect negated. If this card leaves the field for Opponent's Battle or Card Effect(s), select 5 Dragon/Spirit Monster of your GY, send to Deck and shuffle, if you do, for each Card send it, can Banish a Card of Field. Once per turn, during the End Phase of your Turn: Return this Card to the hand, unless you Discard a Monster and then Shuffle a Dragon or Spirit Monster in your GY other than the discarded Card to your Deck."

Carlos Animax.

 

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"Cannot be Special Summoned. This card Original ATK/DEF is equal to total combine ATK/DEF of up the top 5 Dragon and/or Spirit monster in your GY. Monsters on the Field Monsters that shares an Attribute with a Dragon or Spirit Monster in your GY have their effects negated except Spirit Monsters. If this card leaves the field: Target 5 Dragon/Spirit Monster in your GY; Return the targeted monsters to your Deck and shuffle, then, Banish 5 Cards on the Field. Once per turn, during the End Phase of your Turn: Return this Card to the hand, unless you Discard a Monster and then Shuffle a Dragon or Spirit Monster from your GY other than the discarded Card into your Deck."

Updated PSCT.  I'm not too confident in my capitalization, but I'm very confident with my card grammar. I tried to keep the ideas behind most of your effects but there were a couple of minor changes. The biggest 2 changes: 

1. The ATK/DEF is the top 5 Dragons/Spirits in your GY. Highest and lowest ATK/DEF doesn't matter. I think this is a happy middle ground for the stats.

2. The if it leaves the field effect is mandatory if you have 5 Dragon/Spirit monsters in your GY and you have to banish 5 cards or as many as possible if there is less then 5.

 

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Oops there actually an error in my fixes:

Cannot be Special Summoned. This card Original ATK/DEF is equal to total combine ATK/DEF of up to 5 Monster with the highest ATK among Dragon and/or Spirit monster in your GY. 

Now for the new addition, just need some notches:

If this card removed from the field by opponent's card: Shuffle up to 5 Dragon and/or Spirit monster with different name(s) from your GY (except this card) to your deck; Banish 1 card on the field for each card you shuffled. 

I personally allow this effect given how rare a good spirit monster is but note that it might be a little "win more". Its still balance though since it require GY investment and only trigger by opponent stupidity hence my pass. The only thing i add is "different names" clause since non-target banish is still pretty godly let alone the one that banish more than 1 card 

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Just now, Dokutah Gory, Woundslinger said:

Oops there actually an error in my fixes:

Cannot be Special Summoned. This card Original ATK/DEF is equal to total combine ATK/DEF of up to 5 Monster with the highest ATK among Dragon and/or Spirit monster in your GY. 

Now for the new addition, just need some notches:

If this card removed from the field by opponent's card: Shuffle up to 5 Dragon and/or Spirit monster with different name(s) from your GY to your deck; Banish 1 card on the field for each card you shuffled. 

I personally allow this effect given how rare a good spirit monster is but note that it might be a little "win more". Its still balance though since it require GY investment and only trigger by opponent stupidity hence my pass. The only thing i add is "different names" clause since non-target banish is still pretty godly let alone the one that banish more than 1 card 

A couple more miniscule fixes: If this card is removed from the field by an opponent's card:

Since you just posted what did you think of my changes

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1 minute ago, Loleo said:

A couple more miniscule fixes: If this card is removed from the field by an opponent's card:

Since you just posted what did you think of my changes

The top 5 is situational. Ill assume you meant as stack order of GY Pile. Tbh ist a bit tedious to track 

In my previous reply i already suggest "up to" wording for the removal. Its mandatory but you can shuffle less or none (if you somehow you lost your GY) so it can resolved on removed GY

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