Changing Subtypes?!? - morphing playground

[Loleo]

morphing playground

field spell

When this card is activated add one monster with a subtype from your deck to your hand. (Quick effect) Up to three times per a turn, declare a subtype and roll a die apply the appropriate effect based on the result:

1 or 4: all monsters you control lose replace their subtype with the declared subtype 

2 or 5: all monsters your opponent controls lose replace their subtype with the declared subtype 

3 or 6: all monsters you and your opponent control lose replace their subtype with the declared subtype

If this card is sent from the field to the GY you can declare a subtype, all monsters in both players fields and GY are replaced with the declared subtype.

If this card is banished you can declare a subtype, all monsters on your field are replaced with the declared subtype.

[Pommelo]

Hey, @ITSUKOSOADO 

For starters, we'd have to determine one fundamental thing in this card: what are you referring to when you say subtype? There is not a single official card that says sub-type or secondary type in its card text... but I imagine you're talking about Toon, Spirit, Union, Gemini, Flip... also regarded as Ability. Here's this lil' article in Yugipedia: https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Ability. Note that "Tuner" is not treated as an Ability.

Sooo... let's go with card grammar. Let me mention this before: even if "Ability" is possibly the closest term to what you want, it is not used either in any official card, as far as I know. For the spirit of the card, I'll use "Ability", but with strict PSCT, you'd have to mention all the Abilities.

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When this card is activated: Add 1 monster with an Ability from your Deck to your hand. Thrice per turn, during either player's turn: You can declare 1 Ability, then roll a six-sided die; apply 1 of the following effects, based on the result.
1 or 3: All monster you control change their Ability to the declared one.
2 or 4: All monsters your opponent controls change their Ability to the declared one.
5 or 6: All monsters on the field change their Ability to the declared one.
If this card is banished: You can declare 1 Ability; all monsters you control change their Ability to the declared one.

Please note the usage of colon and semicolons. A colon means that it’s an effect that starts a Chain. It also indicates that what was before that colon was its activation condition, or it has a specific timing to it. Semi-colons indicate that anything before it is a cost and/or it targets, also using for declaring and doing actions like rolling a die or tossing a coin.

Now, before you jump saying, Duuuuude, why are you using "During either player's turn", that's old as hell, now you use (Quick Effect). Well, Yes and no. (Quick Effects) are reserved for monsters, and ONLY monsters for their Spell Speed 2 effects. Spells/Traps NEVER use (Quick Effect). There a a couple of methods to give a Field Spell (Spell Speed 1), a quick-like effect, but what we're using here is a wording present in the Magical Musket archetype, in which they have continuous effects that use that old "During either player's turn" formula, but with a different usage to before. Interesting, huh? xD. If you truly want it to be quick-like, you'd have to make it so it reacts to something, like Ancient City - Rainbow Ruins bulleted effect 3. See how it says " When a Spell/Trap Card is activated: You can send 1 "Crystal Beast" monster you control to the GY. THAT's a quick-like effect in a Field Spell. So you'd have to do something like: When your opponent Summons a monster or activates a monster effect: You can declare 1 Ability etc. etc... for now, with the wording I suggested first, it's a continuous effect that can be activated thrice during either player's turn when the game state is open.

Finally, the effect itself... oooof, it's interesting, though it has so many implications.. I'm not sure. What is good is that by changing the Ability, a group of monster can get access to all the support that Ability can get that can do something with monsters on the field... the card also has disruptive capabilities for the opponent... but lemme tell you something else: We know each Ability is linked to a certain set of effects... like, Spirits cannot be Special Summoned, return to hand at the End Phase... Unions become equipments... Geminis gain effects when summoned twice... BUT, the Ability is not the effect itself. You get what I mean? It's hard to explain...Konami adds the Ability printed in the card because it has that set of effects, in a sense, the Ability determines PART of its typical effects, but consider this: when a monster effect is negated, that monster still has the Ability, they're not together, so to speak. In other words, well, probably you know this, but I wanted to point out still, if you change an Ability to another one, the monster won't get the set of effects linked to the new Ability... an effect is an effect, and won't change simply as so.

Well, I hope this was helpful, see ya around n.n

[Loleo]

I learned so much from this thank you!

[Loleo]

The most interesting comment is calling these "abilities" I got my word from yugipedia the deck building app which I believe is an off brand source. Subtype includes flip, gemini, toon, tuner, union, spirit, and pendulum. All monsters that become these would gain only the typing in name and none of the effects; for example, spirit monsters wouldn't return t the hand. The only effect the gives is that gained from other cards tuner being the most OP.

[Pommelo]

1 hour ago, ITSUKOSOADO said:

I learned so much from this thank you!

Glad I was of help, you're welcome n.n

1 hour ago, ITSUKOSOADO said:

The most interesting comment is calling these "abilities" I got my word from yugipedia the deck building app which I believe is an off brand source. Subtype includes flip, gemini, toon, tuner, union, spirit, and pendulum. All monsters that become these would gain only the typing in name and none of the effects; for example, spirit monsters wouldn't return t the hand. The only effect the gives is that gained from other cards tuner being the most OP.

Umm, no, in the article I left you in the first link it says the Abilities are Toon, Spirit, Union, Gemini, Flip, but to quote from there:

Other classifications—such as Normal, Effect, Pendulum, Tuner, and Special Summon—are not abilities.

I dunno why that app you mention calls it subtypes, but truly, that's not a thing, "subtypes" do not exist. So, we have 5 Abilities, and those others (including Tuner) are treated as one "Classification" Heck, even if you visit the page that explains Tuners, it says again "Tuner is NOT an Ability". Sorry to say this, but you can't give your mobs a Tuner classification with this card. That's too bad, because the card would get a lot of power if you could :)

[Loleo]

in the app store there is an app called yugipedia. Which is an archive of yugioh cards with a search system, deckbuilding, and playtesting

[Tinkerer]

*Pokes head in*  Did someone say "subtype"?

I just wanted to jump in because I had a feeling I knew where this was going when I saw the title.

I actually made [most of] an archetype that was planning to use "subtypes" (shameless self-promotion here).  However, while making it, I had to look up the word to make sure that "subtype" was actually the term I was looking for.  Turns out the term was "ability", but since there are no cards that used the term in that way in their effect, I figured it would just be best to list them out (see my cards as an example).

In any case, you can see the word "subtype" here on yugipedia (alongside "Special Summon" monsters, and a few anime-only classifications), however, it doesn't have a defined page which suggests that it is explicitly a fan-made term.

[Loleo]

4 hours ago, Mr Melon said:

*Pokes head in*  Did someone say "subtype"?

I just wanted to jump in because I had a feeling I knew where this was going when I saw the title.

I actually made [most of] an archetype that was planning to use "subtypes" (shameless self-promotion here).  However, while making it, I had to look up the word to make sure that "subtype" was actually the term I was looking for.  Turns out the term was "ability", but since there are no cards that used the term in that way in their effect, I figured it would just be best to list them out (see my cards as an example).

In any case, you can see the word "subtype" here on yugipedia (alongside "Special Summon" monsters, and a few anime-only classifications), however, it doesn't have a defined page which suggests that it is explicitly a fan-made term.

Yes I think you're right, I'm fairly positive the deck building app I got the word from is fan made. Rayfield helped me with that also.

[Loleo]

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