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[Dokutah]

DBAG-JP001 Meikai no Ori – Null / Null, Dreg of the Abhyss
LIGHT Reptile / Effect
LV4 0/0
You can only use this card name’s 1st and 2nd effects once per turn each.
(1) You can send this card from your hand to the GY; send 1 DARK Reptile monster from your Deck to the GY.
(2) If you control no monsters, or you control an “Abhyss” monster: You can Special Summon this card from your GY, but banish it when it leaves the field. You cannot Special Summon monsters while this card Special Summoned by this effect is in the Monster Zone, except Reptile monsters.

DBAG-JP002 Meikai no Ori – Nihil / Nihil, Dreg of the Abhyss
DARK Reptile / Effect
LV4 0/2000
You can only use this card name’s 1st and 2nd effects once per turn each.
(1) You can send this card from your hand to the GY; send 1 LIGHT Reptile monster from your Deck to the GY.
(2) If this card is Normal or Special Summoned: You can add 1 “Abhyss” Spell/Trap from your Deck to the hand.

DBAG-JP003 Meikai no Sunahara – Phlogi / Phlogi, Haze of the Abhyss
LIGHT Reptile / Effect
LV4 1800/1400
You can only use this card name’s 1st and 2nd effects once per turn each.
(1) If this card is sent from the field to the GY or Special Summoned from the GY: You can target 1 face-up monster your opponent controls and 1 monster in their GY with an equal or higher ATK; Special Summon the target in the opponent’s GY to their field, and if you do, send the target they control to the GY.
(2) If this card is in your GY: You can send 1 card from your hand to the GY; add this card to your hand.

DBAG-JP004 Meikai no Sunahara – Zoha / Zoha, Haze of the Abhyss
DARK Reptile / Effect
LV4 1500/1700
You can only use this card name’s 1st and 2nd effects once per turn each.
(1) If this card is sent from the field to the GY or Special Summoned from the GY: You can have your opponent draw 1 card, and if they do, you add 1 “Abhyss” monster from your Deck to your hand, except “Zoha, Haze of the Abhyss”, then each player sends 1 card from their hand to the GY.
(2) If this card is in your GY: You can send 1 card from your hand to the GY; add this card to your hand.

DBAG-JP005 Meikai no Tasogare – Curse / Curse, Dawn of the Abhyss
LIGHT Reptile / Effect
LV8 400/2400
You can only use this card name’s 1st and 2nd effects once per turn each.
(1) If this card is in your GY: You can Tribute 1 monster; Special Summon this card, then your opponent can Special Summon 1 monster from their GY to their field, but its effects are negated.
(2) If this card is Special Summoned: You can target 1 Level 4 or lower “Abhyss” monster in your GY; Special Summon it, but banish it when it leaves the field.

DBAG-JP006 Meikai no Kurayami – Aleth / Aleth, Dusk of the Abhyss
DARK Reptile / Effect
LV8 2000/800
You can only use this card name’s 1st and 2nd effects once per turn each.
(1) If this card is in your GY: You can Tribute 1 monster; Special Summon this card, then your opponent can add 1 monster from their GY to their hand.
(2) If this card is Special Summoned: You can target 2 of your banished monsters, including at least 1 Reptile monster; return them to the GY.

DBAG-JP007 Meikaioh – Aron / Aron, King of the Abhyss
LIGHT Reptile / Effect
LV8 2500/2800
You can only use this card name’s 1st, 2nd, and 3rd effects once per turn each.
(1) If this card is in your GY: You can Tribute 2 monsters; Special Summon this card.
(2) If your opponent adds a card(s) to the hand (except during the Draw Phase): You can send 1 random card from their hand to the GY.
(3) If a monster(s) your opponent controls is sent to the GY by a card effect: You can add 1 LIGHT or DARK Reptile monster from your Deck or GY to your hand, except “Aron, King of the Abhyss”.

DBAG-JP008 Meikaihi – Amunesia / Amunesia, Queen of the Abhyss
DARK Reptile / Effect
LV8 2700/2100
You can only use this card name’s 1st, 2nd, and 3rd effects once per turn each.
(1) If this card is in your GY: You can Tribute 2 monsters; Special Summon this card.
(2) If a monster(s) is Special Summoned from your opponent’s GY: You can send 1 card they control to the GY.
(3) If a monster(s) is sent from your opponent’s hand or Deck to the GY: You can Special Summon 1 LIGHT or DARK Reptile monster from your GY, excepet “Amunesia, Queen of the Abhyss”.

DBAG-JP009 Meikaishin – Ogdoabyss / Ogdoabyss, Deity of the Abhyss
LIGHT Reptile / Effect
LV10 3100/2200
You can only use this card name’s 1st and 2nd effects once per turn each.
(1) If this card is in your GY: You can Tribute 3 monsters; Special Summon this card.
(2) Once while face-up on the field (Quick Effect): You can send all monsters on the field to the GY, except face-up monsters that were Special Summoned from the GY.

DBAG-JP011 Meikai no Engen / Depths of the Abhyss
Field Spell
You can only use this card name’s 1st and 2nd effects once per turn each.
(1) If a face-up Reptile monster(s) you control is destroyed by battle or an opponent’s card effect: You can target 1 card your opponent controls; send it to the GY.
(2) If this card in your Field Zone is destroyed by an opponent’s card effect: You can send cards from the top of your opponent’s Deck to the GY equal to the number of Reptile monsters with different names in your GY.

DBAG-JP012 Meikai no Utsuro / Emptiness of the Abhyss
Continuous Trap
You can only use this card name’s 1st effect once per turn.
(1) During the Main Phase: You can Tribute 1 Reptile monster, then target 1 monster in your opponent’s GY; Special Summon it to your field, but send it to the GY during the End Phase.
(2) If this face-up card in the Spell & Trap Zone is sent to the GY: Send all face-up non-Reptile monsters you control to the GY.

DBAG-JP013 Meikai no Yobimizu / Invasion of the Abhyss
Normal Trap
You can only activate 1 card with this card’s name per turn.
(1) Special Summon 2 “Abhyss Tokens” (Reptile/DARK/Level 2/ATK 0/DEF 0). If you have 8 or more “Abhyss” monsters with different names in your GY, you can apply this effect instead.
● Special Summon 2 Reptile monsters with different names from your GY.

[The Warden]

So, if I got this right, you want to get King and Queen out ASAP, so your other monster effects stop being a benefit to your opponent.

Hmm, seems like this deck will be running triple Allure, Trade-In, and Snake Rain... I think.

[The Highlander]

28 minutes ago, The Warden said:

So, if I got this right, you want to get King and Queen out ASAP, so your other monster effects stop being a benefit to your opponent. [...]

To be fair Zoha and Phlogi are neutral in terms of being a benefit, while the revival from Curse is neglectable, given that without targets the opponent gets nothing and even if a monster can be summoned its effects will be negated.

28 minutes ago, The Warden said:

[...]

Hmm, seems like this deck will be running triple Allure, Trade-In, and Snake Rain... I think.

Good idea, I overlooked Trade-in, which is quite consistent with 4 different maindeck level 8s, although Ash can still hurt.

 

Further considerations would propably also include Pot of Extravagance, as well as Pot of Prosperity.

Beyond that Sky Striker Mecha - Hornet Drones + Kagari, as well as Collapserpent + Wyverbuster are solid 1 card double tributes for the revival effects (and Phantom Skyblaster might be a consideration as well, given that it can be used as 2-3 tributes).

Mask Change II also has some synergy, given that half of the monsters are DARK attribute and as such can be used to summon Dark Law, which doubles on the work of Aron, allowing Zoha to search + mill any Abhyss + forcing the opponent to draw 1 card and then banish 3 cards from their hand.

Card Destruction, Performapal Popperup, Chaos Space and The Dark Creator should also have synergy with the archetype, especially with the existence of Snake Rain.

One could also run a Reptilianne engine with Lamia, Hydra and Spawn (for additional token generation for revival laddering, while being able to mill Lamia if she is not drawn, either by Null or Snake Rain).

Furthermore Vyper's Rebirth might be a very cheap revival tool if one runs no non-reptiles and the ability to quickly get out 2 Level 8 monsters means that the archetype has access to the numerous negation tools offered by Rank 8s, as well as the Galaxy-Eyes line-up.

 

Edit: The access to Alien Shocktrooper M-Frame and Reptilianne Echidna (the Link 2 reptiles) could be decent for recovery and has further synergy with Reptilianne Lamia, in case of Echidna.

[The Warden]

11 hours ago, The Highlander said:

One could also run a Reptilianne engine with Lamia, Hydra and Spawn (for additional token generation for revival laddering, while being able to mill Lamia if she is not drawn, either by Null or Snake Rain).

I'm trying to figure out the benefit of milling Lamia here, aside from being a body to use Spawn on.

Anyways, the other stuff are fairly solid ideas really, though I think using Mask Change II might be pushing it a little in terms of techs, though I guess this deck could afford it simply because it's not ED heavy.

[The Highlander]

4 hours ago, The Warden said:

I'm trying to figure out the benefit of milling Lamia here, aside from being a body to use Spawn on.

Anyways, the other stuff are fairly solid ideas really, though I think using Mask Change II might be pushing it a little in terms of techs, though I guess this deck could afford it simply because it's not ED heavy.

My point with being able to consistently mill Lamia was that one could make an argument that Spawn should be consistent enough to consider (although I would still say options like Wyverbuster are superior).

The point with Mask Change II is that Dark Law synergizes well with Aron, King of the Abhyss and it being easily triggered by Zoha, Haze of the Abhyss during the own turn (and possibly with Call of the Haunted or something like that during the opponent's turn) means that it can snipe up to 2 more cards out of the opponent's hand.

With Dark Law + Aron one could make the cards the opponent has to discard banishes and force the opponent to go (-2) in hand advantage with each time Zoha is triggered and then possibly (-4) before they can start playing, while the one-sided macro cosmos is also nasty interruption.

[The Warden]

You make a pretty good point there. Also, I just remembered that King of the Feral Imps exists, so SSing Null using its effect then making King will let you dodge Null's banish effect, while also getting a search off of King. In fact, you could NS Nihil and SS Kagetokage while still searching with Nihil. Then you can make King and Search Null or any other Reptile you want like Lamia, completely negating the 2 card loss while having a decent body on the field.

[~British Soul~]

40 minutes ago, The Warden said:

You make a pretty good point there. Also, I just remembered that King of the Feral Imps exists,

If you did forget that card existed, a reprint of it in this set surely would've reminded you.

[The Warden]

So while diddling around with potential options for this card, I came across a generic level 6 synchro called Altergeist Dragvirion with an effect that can OPT SS itself from the GY if it gets tributed and sent to the GY. Given Reptilianne Lamia it could be a potential level 6 option alongside Reptilianne Hydra, while also being a far more suitable first turn option.

EDIT: I also considered that, instead of using Wyv-Collapse and Hornet Drones cause they're all limited, what about using 3 A Hero Lives and 1-2 Shadow Mist? It gets you a free body, and you search out Mask Change II at the same time. Granted, it's not always live like Wyv-Collapse but at the same time you can use them for discard fodder when needed.

EDIT2: Nevermind, AHL is limited. Also, I think the Sky Striker stuff may be too useful as Mecha Hornet Drone's token cannot be tributed, so you'd only be using Kagari as a body.

[The Highlander]

18 hours ago, The Warden said:

[...] the Sky Striker stuff may be too useful as Mecha Hornet Drone's token cannot be tributed, so you'd only be using Kagari as a body.

You could always use them for a second Link, given that ED space does not appear to be very tight.

 

[The Warden]

1 hour ago, The Highlander said:

You could always use them for a second Link, given that ED space does not appear to be very tight.

 

Yes, that is true.

[The Warden]

On 2/10/2021 at 5:35 PM, The Highlander said:

My point with being able to consistently mill Lamia was that one could make an argument that Spawn should be consistent enough to consider (although I would still say options like Wyverbuster are superior).

The point with Mask Change II is that Dark Law synergizes well with Aron, King of the Abhyss and it being easily triggered by Zoha, Haze of the Abhyss during the own turn (and possibly with Call of the Haunted or something like that during the opponent's turn) means that it can snipe up to 2 more cards out of the opponent's hand.

With Dark Law + Aron one could make the cards the opponent has to discard banishes and force the opponent to go (-2) in hand advantage with each time Zoha is triggered and then possibly (-4) before they can start playing, while the one-sided macro cosmos is also nasty interruption.

Y'know, I just realized something here. Wouldn't Dark Law conflict with all of the Abhyss cards, since they specify sending cards your opponent controls to the GY. So because Dark Law causes cards to be banished instead, doesn't that mean their effects can't resolve because the target won't be able to reach the GY? Or am I overthinking this?

[The Highlander]

38 minutes ago, The Warden said:

Y'know, I just realized something here. Wouldn't Dark Law conflict with all of the Abhyss cards, since they specify sending cards your opponent controls to the GY. So because Dark Law causes cards to be banished instead, doesn't that mean their effects can't resolve because the target won't be able to reach the GY? Or am I overthinking this?

That is true.

Although I have to say that I would currently say that a list more resembling the list used by Ygopro 3laa looks like the way to go, using Hieratics (to float into the level 8 Tuner Dragon Core Hexer) to access Ultimil Bishbaalkin, followed by using the token for Reprodocus into the 2 reptile Link 2s (Alien Shocktrooper M-Frame and Reptilianne Echidna) to first search 4-5 reptiles (including Danger Tsuchinoko as an extender) and then using Unchained Abomination to pop Shocktrooper to float into 4-5 high level Abhyss monsters (like Ogdoabhyss).

[The Warden]

2 hours ago, The Highlander said:

That is true.

Although I have to say that I would currently say that a list more resembling the list used by Ygopro 3laa looks like the way to go, using Hieratics (to float into the level 8 Tuner Dragon Core Hexer) to access Ultimil Bishbaalkin, followed by using the token for Reprodocus into the 2 reptile Link 2s (Alien Shocktrooper M-Frame and Reptilianne Echidna) to first search 4-5 reptiles (including Danger Tsuchinoko as an extender) and then using Unchained Abomination to pop Shocktrooper to float into 4-5 high level Abhyss monsters (like Ogdoabhyss).

As much as I hate having dragons be involved... that is still pretty damn clever making use of Bishbalkin and Echidna. Imagine being able to insert Reptilianne Hydra into the combo somehow.

 

EDIT: Welp, it's not just Hieratics people are using, as someone managed to find ways to squeeze Union Carrier into the combo. More than that, there's even a Lair of Darkness variant: 

 

[The Highlander]

3 hours ago, The Warden said:

As much as I hate having dragons be involved... that is still pretty damn clever making use of Bishbalkin and Echidna. Imagine being able to insert Reptilianne Hydra into the combo somehow. [...]

You could with Proxy F Magician or Armillyre, The Starleader Dragon (and many more ED spots).

That being said, Hydra, while giving advantage, contradicts Shocktrooper and its massive revival effect  (although one could make an argument for Reptilianne Vaskii).

Edit: Noteworthy could also be that Reptilianne Echidna can search Performapal Swincobra, Performapal Partnaga and Performapal Lizardraw, which could be used to pendulum summon using the other 2-3 searches (and afterwards one can pop Lizardraw for an additional draw). Although I cannot think of any possible uses for that right now.

 

[The Warden]

11 hours ago, The Highlander said:

You could with Proxy F Magician or Armillyre, The Starleader Dragon (and many more ED spots).

That being said, Hydra, while giving advantage, contradicts Shocktrooper and its massive revival effect  (although one could make an argument for Reptilianne Vaskii).

Edit: Noteworthy could also be that Reptilianne Echidna can search Performapal Swincobra, Performapal Partnaga and Performapal Lizardraw, which could be used to pendulum summon using the other 2-3 searches (and afterwards one can pop Lizardraw for an additional draw). Although I cannot think of any possible uses for that right now.

 

Actually, I saw variations of the Bishbalkiin combo that managed to pop Shocktrooper during the turn, bringing out 3 big ones, but also Nihil and Reptilianne Lamia, getting a search from Nihil and then making Hydra to pop the opponent's tokens. It's janky, but feasible.

There's also, interestingly, a variant that uses Scraps as a starting play.