EHERO Andrew Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 Ok, it has been up for a short time, but there is a new ban list. Bad News: DAD is not Forbidden or LimitedGood News: None Here is the link: http://entertainment.upperdeck.com/yugioh/en/gameplay/forbidden/default.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skuldur Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 it makes dad less of a threat by making different dimension fusion is forbidden and rfdm is limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v8561v Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 Sorry,I don't know the abreviations of cards....what is DAD?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Dinosaur Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 Uh... we've known this since... Before May 9th. But, It's a good Banlist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAG Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 1) DAD=Dark Armed Dragon2) This was already posted (by Crab Helmet, I think).3) What do you mean no good news? Dimension Fusion was banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EHERO Andrew Posted May 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 ok there's that. and Allure of Darkness is Semi-Limited... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 That's not good enough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAG Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 That's not good enough!That may be true. but it is a step in the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark One Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 Allure is fine at 2. It would have been ok at 3 as well, it doesn't really matter. D-Fusion is the main thing and I am glad it is banned. Return from the Different Dimension's limitation seriously slows DAD down. I think it's fine at one. It can still be reached with Cat of Ill Omen and the like, it just takes longer. Now, there are cards that UDE should have touched on but didn't. EG. Dark Armed Dragon. Its deck took a major hit, but this card is still ridiculously broken. We need to clear it away and pretend it never happened. The Dark Return deck should be able to compete without it. EG2. Crush Card Virus. This card simply increases the level of luck in this game. If your are able to draw it at the beginning, you activate it, and destroy half of your opponent's hand. That means that you will most likely win. It can be searched by Cat of Ill Omen, which is actually bad, because if Dark Return starts to use Cat, it will also have the advantage of being able to quickly access the Virus early in the game, where as other deck types wouldn't have that advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 But' date=' It's a good Banlist[/quote'] AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 But' date=' It's a good Banlist.[/quote'] Then how come DAD is still unlimited? There are other cards that should be on the list, but DAD is the one that needs to be banned the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 1) DAD=Dark Armed Dragon2) This was already posted (by Chaos Pudding' date=' I think).3) What do you mean no good news? Dimension Fusion was banned.[/quote'] Fixed and although it is a step in the right direction it is a hap hazard attempt by ude to balance the field, too close to nationals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Altair Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 thought DAD is at 3 it is crippled by D-Fusion's ban and also JD is on the way. Also old news is old. this should be locked imo since there is another thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSceptile Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 Allure is fine at 2. It would have been ok at 3 as well' date=' it doesn't really matter.[/b'] D-Fusion is the main thing and I am glad it is banned. Return from the Different Dimension's limitation seriously slows DAD down. I think it's fine at one. It can still be reached with Cat of Ill Omen and the like, it just takes longer. Now, there are cards that UDE should have touched on but didn't. EG. Dark Armed Dragon. Its deck took a major hit, but this card is still ridiculously broken. We need to clear it away and pretend it never happened. The Dark Return deck should be able to compete without it. EG2. Crush Card Virus. This card simply increases the level of luck in this game. If your are able to draw it at the beginning, you activate it, and destroy half of your opponent's hand. That means that you will most likely win. It can be searched by Cat of Ill Omen, which is actually bad, because if Dark Return starts to use Cat, it will also have the advantage of being able to quickly access the Virus early in the game, where as other deck types wouldn't have that advantage. lol man are you silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilson91 Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 Lol @ monster reborn still limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark One Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 Monster Reborn is the least of our concerns. I don't even think it should be rebanned. It isn't really all that broken. We can leave it switched with Call for a few lists. Keep some variety. @ RedSceptile. Yes, I'm a funny guy, and your attempt at a humorous rejection of my statement absolutely failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSceptile Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 Monster Reborn is the least of our concerns. I don't even think it should be rebanned. It isn't really all that broken. We can leave it switched with Call for a few lists. Keep some variety. @ RedSceptile. Yes' date=' I'm a funny guy, and your attempt at a humorous rejection of my statement absolutely failed.[/quote'] Doesn't stop me from being right though. Your attempt to thwart my attempt at a humorous rejection of your previous statement only shows that you are only willing to beat around the bush, and not actually defend your opinion (however hilarious it might be). Your move. Monster Reborn is the least of our concerns. I don't even think it should be rebanned. It isn't really all that broken. We can leave it switched with Call for a few lists. Keep some variety. you continue the lulz. make more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Wolf Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 what are u guys talking about the card we sould be really worried about is snipe hunter... oh wait... anyways i think its a good step, a baby step but a good step never the less. DAD is crippled but now judgement dragon rules. i should know i finally got my friend to give me it (sence i told him it would be banned soon anyways lulz) i tell u what once he hits the field its over. no if ands buts about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark One Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 Snipe Hunter isn't even worth discussing. It needs to be banned. Period. @RedSceptile: What makes Return need banning? Any OTK with it is now drastically slower. Should Demise be banned? Because Return is probably of a similar threat level. (Assuming that all the broken cards in Dark Return decks are banned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSceptile Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 Snipe Hunter isn't even worth discussing. It needs to be banned. Period. @RedSceptile: What makes Return need banning? Any OTK with it is now drastically slower. Should Demise be banned? Because Return is probably of a similar threat level. (Assuming that all the broken cards in Dark Return decks are banned) Demise should have been banned and ARA should be at 3. Return is in a sense worse than Demise because it does the same thing that Dimension Fusion does; mindless swarming, only Return's only set-back (if you want to call it that) is that it's a Trap card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark One Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 I'll give you that, ARA should be a 3, which therefore means that Demise should be banned. I gave a bad example. Demise' existence hurts rituals as a whole, therefore it should not exist. What's wrong with a little bit of mindless swarming? It's limited to one. As I said before, any deck that wants to utilize it reliably will be slow. Yeah, if you draw it in the opening hand, you're probably going to win, but the same is true for drawing HotU in Heart Exodia. I don't understand what's so bad about a Return at one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSceptile Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 I'll give you that' date=' ARA should be a 3, which therefore means that Demise should be banned. I gave a bad example. Demise' existence hurts rituals as a whole, therefore it should not exist. What's wrong with a little bit of mindless swarming? It's limited to one. As I said before, any deck that wants to utilize it reliably will be slow. Yeah, if you draw it in the opening hand, you're probably going to win, but the same is true for drawing HotU in Heart Exodia. I don't understand what's so bad about a Return at one.[/quote'] The same reason why Dimension Fusion was bad at one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark One Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Dimension Fusion was bad at one because it was a complete lucksack card, and, being better than Return even, obviously could not be run at 3. It also allowed you to keep any monsters you brought back, thus making it more difficult for a defending player to stop you than simply chaining Waboku. Return is ok at one because, being searchable (albeit slowly), it does not require luck to win with. A luck-based metagame is a bad metagame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 So Return is fine at 1 because...it's searchable? Being searchable means that you can run 4 while it's Limited, so why not unlimit it for 6? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark One Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 It's searchability makes it not be a luck-based card. At 3, it has already been demonstrated to be broken. At 1, since the search card for it is very slow, it is less so. I'm not saying that theres no way it could be a problem, but I think that we should leave it at one for at least one format after we get rid of the Dragon Overlords, Disk, etc. At least see how it goes. (Not that we have any control over the banlist) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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