Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 2, 2020 Report Share Posted November 2, 2020 The Eve Before Where the betting Markets stand at this instant My final predictions (1) https://www.270towin.com/maps/266nZ 296 Trump - 242 Biden (2) https://www.270towin.com/2020-senate-election/51DVlM Senate: 52 GOP - 48 Democrat VP: GOP (3) (a) Final: Biden +4.1 Nationally (b) Turnout: 155M (c) Closest Senate Race: James MI-R +0.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted November 3, 2020 Report Share Posted November 3, 2020 Not sure where you got that map Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 3, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2020 2 hours ago, (GigaDrillBreaker) said: Not sure where you got that map The first? Predictit Common betting site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horu Posted November 3, 2020 Report Share Posted November 3, 2020 If Biden wins, we lose petroleum. This means no cars, bicycles, housing materials, plumbing, weaponry, jewelry, currency, computers, etc. No transportation means no police, military, sanitation or emergency services. So yeah, the US will essentially be open season for whatever country feels like shooting fish in a barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phelphor, of the Deep Posted November 3, 2020 Report Share Posted November 3, 2020 I believe that that the silent majority will vote for trump. It will be the major factor of Trump winning (similar to last go around.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 4, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 Trump wins Florida, Miami going from Clinton +30 to Biden +7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phelphor, of the Deep Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 Florida being an important swing state to win, it going to Trump gives Trump a major advantage. We shall see how things will pan out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 John Hickenlooper has defeated Cory Gardner, marking the first flip in the Senate so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 4, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 Wow and we've flipped 4 House seats 2 in South Florida, 2 in Virginia Guess you gotta take what you get Roxas Enjoy that -20% Drop with Hispanic voters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vla1ne Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 Rooting for trump, I've got no doubt that trump is gonna take it, because if he loses, it validates the actions of the media and silicon valley for the past 4 years. the disgusting behavior of the people lying about everything they can, including the riots and destruction of the past several months. The media has lied about the man for the past 4 years, and has ignored the damage caused by groups like antifa and blm. That alone is likely to be the deciding factor in the election. The satisfaction of this win, is not going to be that trump wins, but that the tactics of the last 4 years have not worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 4, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 6 house seats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phelphor, of the Deep Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 Georgia16 electoral votes94% reporting 48.3%2,278,123 50.5%2,380,946 Michigan16 electoral votes82% reporting 46.9%2,071,485 51.5%2,277,328 Nevada6 electoral votes67% reporting 50%553,785 47.9%530,571 North Carolina15 electoral votes94% reporting 48.7%2,655,392 50.1%2,732,104 Pennsylvania20 electoral votes64% reporting 43.1%2,290,624 55.7%2,965,636 Wisconsin10 electoral votes95% reporting 49.4%1,583,112 49.1%1,575,326 Arizona11 electoral votes84% reporting 51%1,410,977 47.6%1,317,468 Florida29 electoral votes96% reporting 47.9%5,282,894 51.3%5,657,933 Iowa6 electoral votes99% reporting 45%755,428 53.2%893,649 New Hampshire4 electoral votes88% reporting 53.2%366,684 45.2%311,591 Ohio18 electoral votes94% reporting 45.2%2,597,055 53.4%3,066,657 Texas38 electoral votes84% reporting 46.3%5,146,761 52.2%5,801,701 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phelphor, of the Deep Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 Isn’t it weird how fast they are calling blue states but totally stalling on red? Currently (as far as i know as I am typing this) Joe 238 ( but is likely to get Nevada and Wisconsin which will put him at 254) Trump 213 ( but several states that project that trump will win those states) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 4, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 Nevada is down to 0.6% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horu Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 This election is rigged. Proof is Arizona being republican state and voting for Biden. So they didn't even count all of the votes before awarding a state to the candidates. California, for example, stopped counting at 58% of the votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 Are talking about California awarding states for candidates, or news outlets calling certain states for candidates? Arizona also flipped a Senate seat, and voted for Mark Kelly instead of McSally. While there are plenty of states where the Senate and Presidential elections aren't going to match, it's more likely that Arizona has simply turned blue, or at least more purple. That's certainly a more sensible explanation than it somehow being rigged. Of course, I'm expecting that no matter who wins, we'll see people on the other side accusing this of being rigged no matter what. Biden is currently winning in Michigan, though only barely. Several states that seemed to be leaning red are flipping blue, so I can understand why they haven't called some swing states yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 4, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 There was a mistake in AZ, Biden might still win it of course https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/524460-error-in-edison-research-data-from-arizona-only-86-of-vote-in-not-98 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 I think that's not the first error from Edison Research? I seem to recall there being something similar yesterday. Either way, Biden will win AZ because the demographic has flipped, not because it was rigged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 4, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 It's gonna be tight There are problems however with people being given Sharpies and having their ballots discounted We're gonna be in a knife fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 The way I see it, Biden wins this if he gets every state leaning blue, while if Trump wins every state currently leaning red, it still won't be enough for him to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 4, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Phantom Roxas said: The way I see it, Biden wins this if he gets every state leaning blue, while if Trump wins every state currently leaning red, it still won't be enough for him to win. I don't think it's safe to make any lean calls on AZ or Nevada at this point It's gonna be close either way. I think we can pretty safely concede that Biden won Wisconsin at this point however Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 Nevada is way too close for comfort at the moment. We have until tomorrow or Friday, so I'll let that one play out. Trump's going to need at least 100k to swing Arizona in his favor, though, so I'm confident in calling that one for Biden. Biden is also leading Trump in Michigan by a nearly five times the margin Trump beat Clinton there, and that's a bigger lead than he has in Wisconsin, so that also seems like a solid bet. With all those in mind, Biden's only really starving for six more votes. I'm expecting there to be a difference of maybe 2-3 votes. I know a lot of people are looking to Pennsylvania, but I'm not holding my breath on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horu Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 I'm actually watching the election live and keeping track of the states as they vote. But also, talking about the fact that the only consistency with the polls is Trump's votes. Seems a bit suspicious to me. Why are Biden's numbers all over the place while Trump's number are staying consistent? CNN reported that Biden was at 238 at 2am and Biden didn't reach 238 until 7am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 CNN isn't the one determining the winner, what you see there is merely an interpretation of the results. There is a big difference between a media org calling a winner of a state early, and the incumbent calling changes in lean as more votes are counted fraudulent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 3 hours ago, Ryusei the Morning Star said: There are problems however with people being given Sharpies and having their ballots discounted I didn't pay this much mind at first, but hearing more about this now. Let's head this off at the pass, shall we? As I've been saying, the right is going to look at any excuse to claim there's fraud. For as much as they lament how the left have tried to call the 2016 illegitimate for one reason or another, I'm not exactly surprised that the right is preemptively latching onto any conspiracy as fast as possible to delegitimize any chance of Trump losing. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/nov/04/facebook-posts/voting-machines-dont-read-ballots-filled-sharpies-/ https://arizonadailyindependent.com/sharpiegate-trending-on-as-maricopa-county-voters-report-cancelled-ballots/ https://www.vice.com/en/article/5dppxx/republicans-try-to-discredit-arizonas-vote-with-unfounded-sharpiegate-conspiracy https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/04/technology/sharpies-ballots-arizona.html Let me be plain, Winter. I am asking you to actually read through those articles. Throughout the years, when I've offered you evidence that refutes certain claims you've shared, you resorted to attacks and insults, rather than really addressing the articles in question. When confronted with these corrections, there's no real harm in saying "Oh, my mistake. I guess I misunderstood what was going on." I'm giving you the chance to say exactly that here. The sharpies are considered legitimate writing utensils for filling out ballots. In fact, election officials from Maricopa County, which is the source of this controversy, released a video last month supporting the use of sharpies. The county is also taking precautions to ensure that these ballots would be counted. Near as I can tell, people are making erroneous assumptions that their ballots are being discounted, when in fact they will be counted. It's just that Republicans are trying to spin it into something more nefarious. So no, there are no problems. It's just that Republicans are once again trying to pretend that something is a problem when it isn't. Don't fall for it. If Republicans want these votes to be illegitimate, but they have to invent excuses wholecloth to claim why that is the case, then there's a good chance that the election is legitimate, and Republicans are just being dishonest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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