iAmNateXero Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 Okay, so this is how i would make the list. You cannot use these cards in your Deck or Side Deck: BLACK LUSTER SOLDIER - ENVOY OF THE BEGINNINGBREAKER THE MAGICAL WARRIORCHANGE OF HEARTCHAOS EMPEROR DRAGON - ENVOY OF THE ENDCHAOS SORCERERCONFISCATIONCYBER JARCYBER-STEINDARK HOLEDARK MAGICIAN OF CHAOSDELINQUENT DUODIMENSION FUSIONEXCHANGE OF THE SPIRITFIBER JARGRACEFUL CHARITYHARPIE'S FEATHER DUSTERIMPERIAL ORDERLAST TURNLAST WILLMAGICAL SCIENTISTMAKYURA THE DESTRUCTORMETAMORPHOSISMIRAGE OF NIGHTMAREMONSTER REBORNPAINFUL CHOICEPOT OF GREEDRAIGEKIRING OF DESTRUCTIONSINISTER SERPENTSNATCH STEALTHE FORCEFUL SENTRYTHOUSAND-EYES RESTRICTTIME SEALTRIBE-INFECTING VIRUSTSUKUYOMIVICTORY DRAGONWITCH OF THE BLACK FORESTYATA-GARASU NEW! - Dark Magician of Chaos, Dimension Fusion, Monster Reborn II. Limited Cards You can ONLY use one of the following cards in the Deck & Side Deck combined: ADVANCED RITUAL ARTBUTTERFLY DAGGER - ELMABRAIN CONTROLCALL OF THE HAUNTEDCARD DESTRUCTIONCARD TROOPERCEASEFIRECHAIN STRIKECRUSH CARD VIRUSD. D. WARRIOR LADYDARK ARMED DRAGONDESTINY HERO - DISK COMMANDERELEMENTAL HERO STRATOSEXODIA THE FORBIDDEN ONEFISSUREFUTURE FUSIONGEARFRIED THE IRON KNIGHTGIANT TRUNADEGOLD SARCOPHAGUSGRAVITY BINDGREEN BABOON, DEFENDER OF THE FORESTHEAVY STORMJUDGMENT DRAGONLEFT ARM OF THE FORBIDDEN ONELEFT LEG OF THE FORBIDDEN ONELEVEL LIMIT - AREA BLIMITER REMOVALMAGIC CYLINDERMAGICIAN OF FAITHMARSHMALLONMEGAMORPHMIND CRUSHMIRROR FORCEMONSTER REBORNMORPHING JARNEO-SPACIAN GRAND MOLENIGHT ASSAILANTNOBLEMAN OF CROSSOUTOJAMA TRIOOVERLOAD FUSIONPREMATURE BURIALRAIZA THE STORM MONARCHRETURN FROM THE DIFFERENT DIMENSIONRIGHT ARM OF THE FORBIDDEN ONERIGHT LEG OF THE FORBIDDEN ONEROYAL MAGICAL LIBRARYSANGANSCAPEGOATSMASHING GROUNDSNIPE HUNTERSPIRIT REAPERSWORDS OF REVEALING LIGHTTHE TRANSMIGRATION PROPHECYTORRENTIAL TRIBUTETRAP DUSTSHOOTTREEBORN FROGTWIN-HEADED BEHEMOTHULTIMATE OFFERINGUNITED WE STANDWALL OF REVEALING LIGHT NEW! - Butterfly Dagger - Elma, Call of the Haunted, Dark Armed Dragon, Gearfried the Iron Knight, Judgment Dragon, Magician of Faith, Return from the Different Dimension, Royal Magical Library III. Semi-Limited Cards You can ONLY use two of the following cards in the Deck & Side Deck combined: ALLURE OF DARKNESSBOOK OF MOONCYBER DRAGONDESTINY HERO - MALICIOUSFOOLISH BURIALGREEN GADGETJINZOLIGHT AND DARKNESS DRAGONLIMIT REVERSEMAGE POWERMAGICAL MARIONETTEMAGICAL STONE EXCAVATIONMANTICORE OF DARKNESSMASK OF DARKNESSMONSTER REINCARNATIONMYSTICAL SPACE TYPHOONNECROFACERAIZA THE STORM MONARCHRED GADGETREINFORCEMENT OF THE ARMYROYAL DECREEYELLOW GADGET NEW! - Allure of Darkness, Green Gadget, Jinzo, Magical Marionette, Monster Reincarnation, Mystical Space Typhoon, Limit Reverse, Raiza the Storm Monarch, Red Gadget, Yellow Gadget No Longer Limited! - Cyber Dragon, Nobleman of Crossout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSceptile Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 Bad, not as bad as Remix Duelist's but still bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axiom_Nor Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 Butterfly Dagger - Elma, Call of the Haunted, Dark Armed Dragon, Gearfried the Iron Knight, limited. god.what a n00b. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 After the bans, you got absolutely everything wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevalier Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 I agree with Crab. Elma will most definitely never be unbanned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted May 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 well im tired of just seeing the same cards constantly comming back and forward on the ban list so i thought i would try to spice it up. ive said it once, and ill say it again, i dont see the danger in butterfly dagger. people complained about Gearfried combo with royal magical library, so i limited them. raiza's not a huge threat in my opinion, and neither is cyber dragon, after the argument me and crab shared some time ago. with dmoc banned, might as well give mof another shot, but of course that means 3 cross outs again. limit reverse should be limited because with the banning of d-fusion, the format just went from mach 5 to mach 2 and mabey traps could see more play. everything else should be self explanatory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 your semi limiting of limit reverse and non banning of disk commander astounds me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted May 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 What happened to no banning theme cards? In PC Disk commander is a themed card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kizzi Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 What happened to no banning theme cards? In PC Disk commander is a themed card.This post made me lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 What happened to no banning theme cards? In PC Disk commander is a themed card. What do you mean, "What happened to no banning theme cards"? What makes you think theme cards are somehow magically unable to be broken? OMG IT HAZ D-HERO IN TEH NAIM BALANCED/10 M I RITE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted May 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Banning Theme cards (Like Judgement Dragon) is never a good idea' date=' limit Judgement Dragon, Limit either Monster reborn or Call of the Haunted, and Ban Demise and Unlimit Advanced Ritual Art[/quote'] Thats where i based my judgment from, yet nobody had any disagreements than. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Banning Theme cards (Like Judgement Dragon) is never a good idea' date=' limit Judgement Dragon, Limit either Monster reborn or Call of the Haunted, and Ban Demise and Unlimit Advanced Ritual Art[/quote'] Thats where i based my judgment from, yet nobody had any disagreements than. What topic was this in? Well, I can't possibly argue with this logic. I mean, Duelist_King_Ryan's advice trumps everything I say. Sure, it might seem like a retarded idea to keep a broken card legal on the grounds that its name contains "Destiny Hero" or its text contains "Lightsworn", but since Duelist_King_Ryan said that theme cards can't be banned, there's nothing I can do. After all, he must be right. EDIT: I found the topic, and guess what? Banning Theme cards (Like Judgement Dragon) is never a good idea' date=' limit Judgement Dragon[/quote'] So he can't possibly be broken on the grounds that he isn't splashable? I already HAD disagreed with him. Read better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 For one second, I thought you meant it was my list. Well, mine would be nothing like THIS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted May 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 No... Nothing can top the great Crab Helmet and if it does call the national guard! I read this statement and thought about UDE's Track record and how they handle their ban list. Notice this is the second Ban list change since the release of Phantom Darkness and the first since Light of destruction (sneak peak) Yet Dark armed hadn't ben banned yet, but what did they do? The banned its running mate D-fusion. I didin't and still dont see the point of banning Disk commander, instead i chose to limit Limit reverse. Its not like you cant use one of the two Mysticals to destroy it, one of your 3 crows to remove it, or chain your own call for jinzo... No none of that can happen because you got a monster with Destiny Hero in its name and it must hold all sorts of Brain guzzling powers. But since Crab Helmet must be right, than Gawd let him be right. I'll just have my own ideas and my own thoughts after Crab finishes telling them to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 ^saying a combo can be countered is no reason not to ban it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 No... Nothing can top the great Crab Helmet and if it does call the national guard! I read this statement and thought about UDE's Track record and how they handle their ban list. Notice this is the second Ban list change since the release of Phantom Darkness and the first since Light of destruction (sneak peak) Yet Dark armed hadn't ben banned yet' date=' but what did they do? The banned its running mate D-fusion. I didin't and still dont see the point of banning Disk commander, instead i chose to limit Limit reverse. Its not like you cant use one of the two Mysticals to destroy it, one of your 3 crows to remove it, or chain your own call for jinzo... No none of that can happen because you got a monster with Destiny Hero in its name and it must hold all sorts of Brain guzzling powers. But since Crab Helmet must be right, than Gawd let him be right. I'll just have my own ideas and my own thoughts after Crab finishes telling them to me.[/quote'] So, your logic is that you're following UDE's example of how to build a banlist? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Oh, and since DAD and D-Fusion would each need to be banned even if the other was already banned, that's a different case than Disk Commander and Limit Rebirth, since Limit Rebirth is fine at 3 with Disk Commander gone. Also, Angel Lift. Also, 1 Butterfly Dagger = 4 Butterfly Dagger. Arms Hole, remember? And 1 Gearfried = 3 Gearfried. ROTA, remember? And...you get the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAG Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 i dont see the danger in butterfly dagger. people complained about Gearfried combo with royal magical library' date=' so i limited them.[/quote']Gearfried's not worth limiting. Neither is Butterfly Dagger Elma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted May 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 i dont see the danger in butterfly dagger. people complained about Gearfried combo with royal magical library' date=' so i limited them.[/quote']Gearfried's not worth limiting. Neither is Butterfly Dagger Elma. at least someone agrees with me because i agree completely. i just thought id balance them. So' date=' your logic is that you're following UDE's example of how to build a banlist? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Oh, and since DAD and D-Fusion would each need to be banned even if the other was already banned, that's a different case than Disk Commander and Limit Rebirth, since Limit Rebirth is fine at 3 with Disk Commander gone. Also, Angel Lift. Also, 1 Butterfly Dagger = 4 Butterfly Dagger. Arms Hole, remember? And 1 Gearfried = 3 Gearfried. ROTA, remember? And...you get the idea.[/quote'] This is why i love this forum, You in particular CRAB. And with that logic Stratos is back up to 3, and with warrior returning alive its at 6.... so we should create a new list that makes it so that forbidden cards start at a -5 per deck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAG Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 i dont see the danger in butterfly dagger. people complained about Gearfried combo with royal magical library' date=' so i limited them.[/quote']Gearfried's not worth limiting. Neither is Butterfly Dagger Elma. at least someone agrees with me because i agree completely. i just thought id balance them.Read what's bolded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted May 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 i dont see the danger in butterfly dagger. people complained about Gearfried combo with royal magical library' date=' so i limited them.[/quote']Gearfried's not worth limiting. Neither is Butterfly Dagger Elma. at least someone agrees with me because i agree completely. i just thought id balance them.Read what's bolded. I did, read what you quoted, a while back i got into a discussion about butterfly dagger and i didn't believe it should be on the limited list. In my ban list i only limited it because i thought that is what UDE/ knomi would do. Gearfried was limited in my list because of what i thought (if this were to become a ban list) people would cry wolf about, so i simply just limited it as well. I was going for a balance, but I truly feel as though they shouldn't be limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 So' date=' your logic is that you're following UDE's example of how to build a banlist? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Oh, and since DAD and D-Fusion would each need to be banned even if the other was already banned, that's a different case than Disk Commander and Limit Rebirth, since Limit Rebirth is fine at 3 with Disk Commander gone. Also, Angel Lift. Also, 1 Butterfly Dagger = 4 Butterfly Dagger. Arms Hole, remember? And 1 Gearfried = 3 Gearfried. ROTA, remember? And...you get the idea.[/quote'] This is why i love this forum, You in particular CRAB. And with that logic Stratos is back up to 3, and with warrior returning alive its at 6.... so we should create a new list that makes it so that forbidden cards start at a -5 per deck? Apparently you missed the point of my post. I'm pointing out that Limiting them to make the OTK harder does nothing. And Stratos combos with other copies of himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSceptile Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Man do you suck. Seriously, your logic is so horrible I had to douse my eyes in bleach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Dinosaur Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 Wow...Butterfly Dagger Limited and DAD.............................Wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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