Horu Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 So generally the idea is to prevent your opponent from drawing cards. Pretty much, all but locking their Deck completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluvista Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 Holy Crap. This would be immediately banned if it were real. Some suggestions to make it more friendly. 1. discard at least 2-5 cards to activate it 2. maybe make it banish able, but not destroy able. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horu Posted January 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 The card is for a story so it is supposed to a card that isn't in circulation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluvista Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 I know, just voicing an opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluvista Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 Also, Can you check out my "Vizor" Deck? Its on the casual multiples page and I would like a second opinion on the cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horu Posted January 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 But your reaction/opinion did help confirm the power of this card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluvista Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 Well, yeah, it's SOOOOOO broken. What are you eve supposed to do with this thing on the field? MST it before it activates? Solemn Judgement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horu Posted January 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 Jinzo is always an option. He does negate all trap cards, doesn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluvista Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 Also, any opinion on the "Vizor" deck? I no i'm being pushy and impatient, but i'm excited to hear your words of wisdom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluvista Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 You aren't wrong, Jinzo is an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluvista Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 Odin, Father of the Aesir isn't a half bad Idea either, seeing as it can negate all spells and traps until the end phase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluvista Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 Oh wait nvm, he doesn't negate this thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWanderingMist Posted February 2, 2020 Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 This is beyond borderline cheating, this is Yata-Lock on steroids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horu Posted February 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 This card has 2 huge drawbacks. 1) It slowly burns away your deck. 2) It only prevents drawing cards. So it technically doesn't shut down search engines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerer Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 Except searching is limited; you need cards to be able to search cards, and this stops you from getting that going to begin with. The fact that there's no way to get rid of it just makes this way more broken. 1 card burn per turn is also a pointless cost when the player that activates this is likely to win within 2 turns once the opponent runs through all their options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horu Posted February 3, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 That much might be true but then you also have to hope that you don't banish your ace in the event that your opponent also has a decent setup going. Also, the fact that this can't be removed from the field also creates a massive drawback since that's 1 S/T zone the user is completely unable to utilize. I think I added the no removal claus to prevent Uria from becoming an ace to this deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerer Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 There's a difference between how you think this will be used and how this card would actually be used. The way you're describing things, you are assuming that 1) this would be put into a deck where those "drawbacks" are actual drawbacks, and 2) that a player would activate it in a situation that hurts them. 1) Unless you are making a deck with a theme in mind or you're making an anime-esque deck, banishing an "ace" shouldn't matter as decks should have multiple ways of winning and/or multiple copies of their ace. The only kinds of decks where this is a downside is stuff like Exodia/Destiny Board where this actively hurts you. 2) If a player realizes that they're in a situation where this could hurt them, they can... just choose not to Set/activate this. But that is this card at its worst. Even in situations where this card isn't at its absolute best, this card still wins you the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horu Posted February 3, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 Well, the card is designed to be broken on some level since it is somewhat of a cheat and intended for a story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HQCardmaker Posted March 15, 2020 Report Share Posted March 15, 2020 Typed out a harder version of Access Denied. Access Forbidded Continuous Trap This card cannot be removed from the field. Add 3 Password Counters (max. 3) to this card. On your opponent's Draw Phase you can: Remove 1 Password Counter and if you do: Banish the top card of your deck and 1 card at random from your hand face-down in a random order and if you do: Your opponent gets to guess whether the 1st of those cards banished is a Spell, Trap, Normal Monster, Gemini Monster or Effect Monster and if they guess wrong: your opponent places the top Card of their deck on the bottom of their deck instead of drawing till your next Standby Phase. Basically you can make it more broken if you want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokutah Posted March 16, 2020 Report Share Posted March 16, 2020 here the thing. even if you intent to make this for your story how the protagonist supposed to win against this unless his/her deck is equally broken in term of non-draw search power? hoping he grab Jinzo by generic search? that means the deck has generic search that can be activated with minimum resources, a card like that is broken not only its not enjoyable in simulated plays its really evil for sake of evil which is worse kind of narrative for any story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horu Posted March 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2020 Actually, the protagonist's deck isn't much for draw/search power. I mean, you might get some generic Lv4- searches out of it but it's more defensive with the ability to hit hard and fast when it matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokutah Posted March 16, 2020 Report Share Posted March 16, 2020 2 hours ago, Horu Ishayuki said: Actually, the protagonist's deck isn't much for draw/search power. I mean, you might get some generic Lv4- searches out of it but it's more defensive with the ability to hit hard and fast when it matters. But thats the point, this card kill too many advantage for nearly free and cannot be remove by any means thus either protagonist weak deck somehow grace by miracle other than classic Destiny Draw (since, well....he even cant draw to perform it) or protagonist deck is equally op to bypass all the disadvantge and immunity this card has Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yami Kiniko Posted March 16, 2020 Report Share Posted March 16, 2020 A Counter to Access Denied, Data Breach Note; Only a suggestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horu Posted March 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2020 I think Jolly's point is more the fact that since this card essentially shuts down the draw phase, the moment it's activated, everything just starts to snowball until it becomes a full blown avalanche. Essentially, that is the idea of the card. But he also pointed out that my protagonist is almost completely screwed once this hits the field. So while Data Breach is a nice suggestion, you'd still have to be able to pull it from the deck to use it. Also, due to the nature of this card, I decided that my protagonist's higher level cards should be Synchro and Xyz monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yami Kiniko Posted March 16, 2020 Report Share Posted March 16, 2020 54 minutes ago, Horu Ishayuki said: I think Jolly's point is more the fact that since this card essentially shuts down the draw phase, the moment it's activated, everything just starts to snowball until it becomes a full blown avalanche. Essentially, that is the idea of the card. But he also pointed out that my protagonist is almost completely screwed once this hits the field. So while Data Breach is a nice suggestion, you'd still have to be able to pull it from the deck to use it. Also, due to the nature of this card, I decided that my protagonist's higher level cards should be Synchro and Xyz monsters. Clever move. My idea: A=Antagonist P=Protagonist Last time A set A card, but will it stop our hero? P: I Dra- A: I activate ACCESS DENIED. P: What's that do? A: Access Denied allows me to banish the top card of my deck to stop your draw P: *Looks at hand and grins* A: What you grinning about P: I Flip summon [Insert level 4 Tuner here] And normal summon Feral imp A: No, It cant be P: I Synchro summon [Level 8 Synchro Monster] A: No No No No No To be continued Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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