[JUMP] Armiryle The Starguide Dragon

[Dokutah]

The effect of the Jump Festa promo

 

 

Armiryle the Starguide Dragon
DARK Dragon/Link/Effect
LINK-2 1400

2 Effect Monsters
You can only use this card name’s effect once per turn. Cannot be used as Link Material.
(1): You can target 1 face-up monster this card points to; Special Summon 1 monster with the same original Level from your hand in face-up Defense Position to a zone this card points to, but its effects are negated.

 

Source: https://ygorganization.com/rollinrollinrollingotmestarguiding/ > https://twitter.com/YuGiOh_OCG_INFO/status/1069561891578699777

[Mr. Best Male 2008]

Getting kinda tired of these restrictions 

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

I'm not. We saw what happened with LVP1

[VCR_CAT]

I'm not. We saw what happened with LVP1

 

It released fantastic engine/combo pieces that redefined how dozens upon dozens of decks are built and played and breathed a lot of new life in the game that was lost from the new rules that were lacking good enough cards for anything to really adapt well to them.

[Thomas★Zero]

Based on how it works, this card feels like it leans towards Xyz focused decks.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

It released fantastic engine/combo pieces that redefined how dozens upon dozens of decks are built and played and breathed a lot of new life in the game that was lost from the new rules that were lacking good enough cards for anything to really adapt well to them.

Don't get me wrong, I'm the guy who has repeatedly said that Needle, Isolde, and Cherubini were good for the game due to exactly the above. But surely you'd agree we'd all be better off it they had the same anti-ladder clause that Armiryle has?

[VCR_CAT]

Don't get me wrong, I'm the guy who has repeatedly said that Needle, Isolde, and Cherubini were good for the game due to exactly the above. But surely you'd agree we'd all be better off it they had the same anti-ladder clause that Armiryle has?

 

No.

 

It's an excessive limitation that would only be done by people who don't know any better and are too scared they'll fail to think through their designs.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

No.

 

It's an excessive limitation that would only be done by people who don't know any better and are too scared they'll fail to think through their designs.

Outside of a few decks, Needlefiber, Cherubini, and Isolde are interchangeable. Generic link climbers, adding in can't be used as link material allows for their individual talents to stand out. Like people actually using effect 2 of Needle

[VCR_CAT]

Outside of a few decks, Needlefiber, Cherubini, and Isolde are interchangeable. Generic link climbers, adding in can't be used as link material allows for their individual talents to stand out. Like people actually using effect 2 of Needle

 

Making one aspect of the card bad just because you want another to stand out is poor design. Series 10 has made it very evident that whoever's managing the card design and okay-ing the sets has been doing a piss-poor job, and a limitation like this is no exception.

 

You test the cards, you think through the designs, and you make something that works, works well, and doesn't bust anything wide open. It's not THAT hard. A limitation like this is some real Series-9 reflex-xenophobia of being too afraid of it being used outside anything but its clear intention.

 

Links are made to ladder, and just like how we have Synchros that help in laddering it's not a bad thing to have Links to help in laddering. Otherwise good and well-designed cards like Saryuja become far too impractical for general use, and then the game reaches a point where higher-Link monsters are a waste of time.

 

That's dumb. Make good cards, not excessively balanced cards.

[The Highlander]

[...] That's dumb. Make good cards, not excessively balanced cards.

You know what is really dumb ?

Trying to "balance" Links this way after forgetting it on better Links like Needlefiber and Isolde.

One can argue whether that is the desirable way, however after you already went for that design going back, while better options exist, is just pointless.

The restriction would be fine on something like Needlefiber and/or Isolde, putting it on a card that is objectively inferior, even without it, is just silly and serves no point, except for saying "Guys ... we really did not intend for this to be usable, well maybe we overdid it ... whatever.".

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

You know what is really dumb ?

Trying to "balance" Links this way after forgetting it on better Links like Needlefiber and Isolde.

One can argue whether that is the desirable way, however after you already went for that design going back, while better options exist, is just pointless.

The restriction would be fine on something like Needlefiber and/or Isolde, putting it on a card that is objectively inferior, even without it, is just silly and serves no point, except for saying "Guys ... we really did not intend for this to be usable, well maybe we overdid it ... whatever.".

Well, Needle, Isolde, etc ARE fine

 

But they made cards like Firewall and Summon sorc not fine. Which was all avoidable 

[The Highlander]

Well, Needle, Isolde, etc ARE fine

 

But they made cards like Firewall and Summon sorc not fine. Which was all avoidable 

My point is actually:

1.) We do not even need to discuss whether they are fine (I even said the same recently and do argue they are fine).

2.) If you try to "balance" you contradict yourself if you already released straight up superior cards without that restriction, it does not matter due to the fact that the superior Isolde and Needlefiber exist, the restriction would matter if this card would add something you would not get from something else (and even more) that does not have that condition.

 

Though to be fair its genericness on an extender is neat, too bad you are doing something horribly wrong if you actually plan on using this when you build your deck, rather than on a superior extender.

[BlackBeartic]

Restriction or not, the main selling point for this card (at least for me) is that it seems to lean towards Xyz summons (which is fair because not every xyz deck got a nice link to patch them up so this'll have to be that lifeline for now).

Gonna try this on Percy with my Brilliant Fusion Seraphs and see how it is. Xyz mash decks as a whole seem to want this and decks that want to do other things will probably look less at this (or even ignore it).

 

I like it, though I can see why people dislike the restriction.

[Dragulas]

I like the card, though I would have preferred if the monster it summons had the restriction

 

I am on the side that Link monsters should not be restricted of their own mechanic, low Link rating monsters are supposed to help link climbing.

 

Restrictions should 've come in the same form as Wise Strix (Link RR) on Isolde, Needlefiber and other Link monsters that summon from the deck (or any other place for that matter). Imagine if the tuner you summon with needlefiber could only be used as Synchro Material, or if the warrior isolde summons could not be used as link material. Links were supposed to unlock the other extra deck summons but ended up outclassing every other mechanic.

[(GigaDrillBreaker)]

Well, it can be used as fusion material for dragostapelia, which helps mitigate the loss of being unable to link ladder off of it, but even that feels pretty mediocre.

 

The ladder restriction at least makes sense on cards that plus, but this doesn't actually give any card advantage, it just provides a bit of tempo.