Proto Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 (FOR THE TCG) Firewall Dragon 1 -> 0 Armageddon Knight 3 -> 1 Destiny Hero Malicious 3 -> 2 A - Assault Core 1 -> 3 Called By the Grave 2 -> 3 Kozmo Dark Destroyer 2 -> 3 i was right https://www.yugioh-card.com/oc/gameplay/detail.php?id=1155 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCR_CAT Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 Holy sheet I don’t think I really dislike a single move here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 Krow come eat CrowAlso why is Knightmare Goblin still banned now The source was good I see. Now lets see if his OCG claims pan out too I think it's somewhat likely not. This reminds me of Grandsoil. TCG bans a card with a dumb lack of OPT, OCG erratas in an OPT within a month, TCG moves off list next list. Gumbler escaping is something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Jesse Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 Holy sheet. I guess I want to play this game again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Highlander Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 Holy sheet. I guess I want to play this game again.Same. Finally they killed of that crap, which makes me wonder why they would suddenly be able to ban it.Btw for the one who made this topic Dark Destroyer was at 2, so it is 2->3, rather than 1->3, which is a fine move.And Mali just got doned down (still usable though). I guess this is the list most people waited for, Gumblar is still alive (for now), though this is definitely an amazing list (ignores everything past the Firewall ban).To be fair this fixes a ridiculous amount of issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimagamer Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 They actually unlimited A and banned firewall I am a very happy with this list ( ABC Player here ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas★Zero Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 So Firewall ban fixes OTK issues though on my part shame Stratos didn't get moved to 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Best Male 2008 Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 does this mean I have to eat a shoe now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Highlander Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 does this mean I have to eat a shoe now Let's say yes ... So Firewall ban fixes OTK issues though on my part shame Stratos didn't get moved to 2.Not exactly OTK issues. Honestly missing Firewall Dragon means having Stockholm Syndrom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragulas Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 Firewall - Banned: Actually surprised they decided to finally do it. But disappointed that the burn cards are still alive, they should ve been hit as well regardless of firewall. Gumblar is also something should be banned. Armageddon - Limited: Perfect call nothing to add Mali - Semi limited: As a D-hero player this hurts me a lot, seen malicious been used for evil (ironically) was something that disgusted me but Isolde is part to blame, I still believe that this wasn't necessary, specially with the Neos support coming its just gonna be replaced. But it was not undeserve either. Overall solid hit but this banlist should ve had more cards in it, You have addressed FTKs, now you have an actual meta to keep n check. Also why the heck was any card released from the banlist (the most discussed, Ex shurit, construct, etc.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 does this mean I have to eat a shoe now That was the deal, you can alternatively give Enguin your crack pipe so he stops offering me sex favors for it REAL talk, firechad ain't staying banned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Highlander Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 [...] REAL talk, firechad ain't staying bannedPossibly, I am not sure why they would ban it now, if they would have no real complications doing so ... maybe they actually got the point across, which I doubt.Hopefully an unban includes an errata, which hard OPT restricts the second effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 Possibly, I am not sure why they would ban it now, if they would have no real complications doing so ... maybe they actually got the point across, which I doubt.Hopefully an unban includes an errata, which hard OPT restricts the second effect.Don't stop with a hard OPT Type limit it to Cyberse monster And if you really wanna balance it, type limit the first effect to cyberse monsters tooThe same guy who told me about the Firewall ban in TCG, and said the list would be out on friday said OCG would errata it and reprint it in the 20th pack, so we'll see He's 2/3 for now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Best Male 2008 Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 they should errata it to a zone this monster points to rather than cyberse if they are going to errata it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 I can't believe they did the thing. I'm going to assume Konami got permission from Shueisha to ban Firewall in TCG. Also I'm surprised Chaos Emperor wasn't freed. Perhaps they're waiting for the errata to come to Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 No idea how they'll errata it, just have a feeling they will. OCG will probs kill gumblar too Correct me if I'm wrong, but Danger FTK still can work right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Highlander Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 No idea how they'll errata it, just have a feeling they will. OCG will probs kill gumblar too Correct me if I'm wrong, but Danger FTK still can work right?It relies on looping a Darkworld (not Grapha) with 1 Grapha using Cannon Soldier and Firewall, so I will let you figure out the answer to that question.As for the chance they could still FTK normal summoning Cannon Soldier and then summoning 16 times using Darkworld and Danger ... maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 It relies on looping a Darkworld (not Grapha) with 1 Grapha using Cannon Soldier and Firewall, so I will let you figure out the answer to that question.As for the chance they could still FTK normal summoning Cannon Soldier and then summoning 16 times using Darkworld and Danger ... maybe.Ah never mind then. I recalled a different one that didn't use firewall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hallohallo Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 >Firewall couldn't protect itself Ironic... Konami pls learn how to design protag ace monsters next time. Also, the list is just too small. Nothing really interesting besides the Firewall ban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodfusion Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 Also, the list is just too small. Nothing really interesting besides the Firewall ban. Agreed. It would have been nice to get some more things going up the list, maybe even an unban. However I'm hoping that Firewall Dragon being banned brings some people back to my locals as numbers were dwindling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabber2033 Posted December 1, 2018 Report Share Posted December 1, 2018 I feel like Engage should've gotten a hit. Card is stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Best Male 2008 Posted December 1, 2018 Report Share Posted December 1, 2018 I feel like Engage should've gotten a hit. Card is stupid. It was stupid when drones was at 3. It is no longer stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted December 1, 2018 Report Share Posted December 1, 2018 It was stupid when drones was at 3. It is no longer stupidIt's stupid in OCG where not only is Drones at 1, but Hornet and Engage are both at 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutrality Man Posted December 1, 2018 Report Share Posted December 1, 2018 This looks like a Tier 0 E-Ban list. All Firewall FTK degeneracy is over, some collateral damage is repaired, and they set a short minimum so a proper format can be analyzed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Best Male 2008 Posted December 1, 2018 Report Share Posted December 1, 2018 It's stupid in OCG where not only is Drones at 1, but Hornet and Engage are both at 2. OCG has needlefiber lol. Not a lot of extenders in TCG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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