o_smily Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 Knight of SparkFIREWarrior/EffectLevel 4 - 1800 / 1200If a card or effect is activated that would add a card from the Deck or GY to your hand: You can add this card from your Deck or GY to your hand instead. If you add a card from your Deck or GY to your hand, except "Knight of Spark": You can Special Summon this card from your hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerer Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 Interesting, but I have a couple questions regarding if it works as intended. Did you intend to allow each effect to work under each condition? As in, is it supposed to be able to add itself from GY to hand if you add from deck (or vice versa)? Or is it supposed to replace whatever thing was being used (if you would search from deck, this can get searched instead. If you add from GY, this can get added instead)? Regardless, the other question is did you intend to allow it to SS itself off its first effect? I'm pretty sure its first effect triggers its SS effect because it is already in your hand when the second condition checks to see if adding a card from your Deck/GY to hand was fulfilled. Overall, as it is written now, this card is really interesting. The main issue, imo, is that it would simply facilitate more Gouki/FTK plays, but outside of that, this could be interesting as a means of trading something like Upstart Goblin or Toon Table for a free level 4 monster on board. Plus, since it recurs, you'd never need to play more than 1 at any given time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o_smily Posted November 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2018 Interesting, but I have a couple questions regarding if it works as intended. Did you intend to allow each effect to work under each condition? As in, is it supposed to be able to add itself from GY to hand if you add from deck (or vice versa)? Or is it supposed to replace whatever thing was being used (if you would search from deck, this can get searched instead. If you add from GY, this can get added instead)? Regardless, the other question is did you intend to allow it to SS itself off its first effect? I'm pretty sure its first effect triggers its SS effect because it is already in your hand when the second condition checks to see if adding a card from your Deck/GY to hand was fulfilled. Overall, as it is written now, this card is really interesting. The main issue, imo, is that it would simply facilitate more Gouki/FTK plays, but outside of that, this could be interesting as a means of trading something like Upstart Goblin or Toon Table for a free level 4 monster on board. Plus, since it recurs, you'd never need to play more than 1 at any given time. I didn't realize that the card could be Special Summoned by its first effect; I wanted to slow down the card a little so it wouldn't be too unfair. Should I switch the effects around (if that would actually do anything)? I might just reword the text however. In response to your first question: there is no restriction as to whether you can add from the GY from an effect that adds from the Deck or vice versa. I don't believe that there are any cards that could abuse this monster if the effect allows more versatility, but I could be wrong. If so I'll change it. Thank you for your feedback. Any other suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horu Posted November 23, 2018 Report Share Posted November 23, 2018 Knight of SparkFIREWarrior/EffectLevel 4 - 1800 / 1200If a card or effect is activated that would add a card from the Deck or GY to your hand: You can add this card from your Deck or GY to your hand instead. If you add a card except for "Knight of Spark" from your Deck or GY to your hand: You can Special Summon this card (from your hand). Hope this helps with the fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o_smily Posted November 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2018 Knight of SparkFIREWarrior/EffectLevel 4 - 1800 / 1200If a card or effect is activated that would add a card from the Deck or GY to your hand: You can add this card from your Deck or GY to your hand instead. If you add a card except for "Knight of Spark" from your Deck or GY to your hand: You can Special Summon this card (from your hand). Hope this helps with the fix. That should help; thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horu Posted November 23, 2018 Report Share Posted November 23, 2018 This fix will also allow you to run 3 copies but the new issue is if you get all 3 copies in your hand via their effect, you'll get 3 instant tributes for a god card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o_smily Posted November 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2018 Even if it did make it easier to Summon the Divine Beasts, with their current standing, it shouldn't cause too much trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horu Posted November 23, 2018 Report Share Posted November 23, 2018 Well, we technically don't have any god tier links yet. It would be awesome to see one sometime. Then again, not even the god cards are god tier in this game. But I'm working on another project. I just felt a little compelled to help with this card a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 Remove the parenthesis from "(from hand)" and the text should be good.Not a fan of effects that activate from the deck. I feel it's like opening a can of worms. Can you imagine the game turning into duels where hands are not as relevant because everything activates from the Deck? Like hand traps on a whole new level. Although in this card's case it doesn't seem overpowering, and has a condition to be fulfilled so it's not like you can activate it at any time.Oh by the way, you most likely need both effects to be (Quick Effect). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o_smily Posted November 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 Remove the parenthesis from "(from hand)" and the text should be good.Not a fan of effects that activate from the deck. I feel it's like opening a can of worms. Can you imagine the game turning into duels where hands are not as relevant because everything activates from the Deck? Like hand traps on a whole new level. Although in this card's case it doesn't seem overpowering, and has a condition to be fulfilled so it's not like you can activate it at any time.Oh by the way, you most likely need both effects to be (Quick Effect). Thanks for suggesting the Quick Effects, but is there a reason to remove the parentheses from this particular text? I don't doubt you, I would just like to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 Parenthesis in self-Summon effects are written only in summoning conditions (e.g. Cyber Dragon). In effects that start a chain (e.g.Destrudo, Wulf), they aren't used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o_smily Posted November 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 Thanks for the info! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horu Posted November 27, 2018 Report Share Posted November 27, 2018 Technically, this chains to a Deck/GY searching effect on both accounts. It is even chain summoned if another copy isn't added to your hand. It makes a really good comeback card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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