Ultimagamer Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 Being a Crystron player and having tested all of the Crystron Needlefiber combos and having practiced them many times, I can say somewhat confidently that if Crystrons don't have Needlefiber they lose a lot of their Synchro Summoning power. [spoiler=Crystron Combos]For my deck, I play a lot of "Armageddon Knight" like cards ( cards that foolish monsters on summon ) and needlefiber makes use of them to the fullest amount. They work well since your deck is primarily low level water machine type monsters Scrap Recycler = When summoned, foolish a machine type monster Genex Undine = When summoned, foolish a water monster to search a Genex Controller Mathematician = When summoned, foolish a level 4 or lower monster ( if you foolish thystvern, you can banish it to search any crystron monster, turning mathematician into a rota for your deck ) Combo Example Scrap Recycler, Genex Undine, or Mathematician + any crystron card 1. Normal Summon Genex Undine, activate it's effect to send Crystron Sulfefnir to the graveyard to search a Genex Controller 2. Activate Sulfefnir's effect in the graveyard, discarding a Crystron card to Special Summon itself then destroy itself 3. Activate Sulfenir's other effect to Special Summon a Crystron monster from your Deck when destroyed to Special Summon a Crystron Quan from your Deck 4. Send Undine and Quan for needlefiber 5. activate needlefiber's effect to Special Summon a Crystron Citree from your Deck then from there you can either summon Crystron Quariongandrax ( banish up to 3 monsters your opponent controls and/or in their graveyard ) or Crystron Phoenix ( banish all spell/trap cards your opponent controls and in their graveyard ) all during your opponent's turn Quariongandrax 1. Activate Citree's effect as a chain link 1 targeting Genex Undine to Special Summon it 2. As a chain link 2, chain needlefiber's effect to banish itself to Special Summon a Crystron Quandax from your Extra Deck 3. The chain resolves backwards, Special Summoning Quandax from your Extra Deck. Since you no longer have an available Extra Monster Zone, CItree's effect will only Special Summon the monster you target, but will not perform a Synchro Summon 4. On resolution, activate Quandax's effect to Synchro Summon during your opponent's main or battle phase 5. Undine ( 3 ) + Citree ( Tuner ) ( 2 ) + Quandax ( Tuner ) ( 4 ) = Level 9 with 2 tuners and 1 non-tuner Phoenix 1. Activate Citree's effect to Special Summon a Genex Undine from your Graveyard 2. Synchro Summon for a Crystron Ametrix ( any Level 5 machine synchro would technically work here as well ) by banishing both synchro materials 3. On resolution, activate needlefiber's effect to banish itself to Special Summon a Crystron Quandax from your Extra Deck 4. On resolution of that, activate Quandax's effect to Synchro Summon during your opponent's main or battle phase 5. Ametrix ( Synchro ) ( 5 ) + Quandax ( Synchro ) ( Tuner ) ( 4 ) = 9 with both materials being synchro monsters As you can see, Crystrons can make really great plays with needlefiber, and without needlefiber, in my opinion, the deck would lose of lot of it's really great Synchro power Many people have speculated on the possible banning of Needlefiber when it comes out. The big reason many people have been saying that Needlefiber could get banned is for it's use as a generic link monster in competitive decks and that fact that it allows for easy link laddering. Since every competitive deck plays tuners ( hand traps ) or possibly things such as glow up bulb and o-lion for combos, it's viable pretty much everywhere. It's pretty safe to say people aren't saying it should get hit because of the competitive impact that Crystrons have with it. I think that before needlefiber officially comes to the TCG it should have an errata on it's text to balance the card, keeping it for Crystrons and other such Synchro decks. Old Text If this card is Link Summoned: You can Special Summon 1 Level 3 or lower Tuner from your hand or Deck in Defense Position, but it cannot activate its effects this turn. During your opponent's Main Phase or Battle Phase (Quick Effect ): You can banish this card; Special Summon 1 Tuner Synchro Monster from your Extra Deck (This is treated as a Synchro Summon.) You can only use each effect of "Crystron Needlefiber" once per turn. Errata Suggestion If this card is Link Summoned: You can Special Summon 1 Level 3 or lower Tuner from your hand or Deck in Defense Position, but it cannot activate its effects this turn. During the turn you use this effect, you cannot Special Summon Link Monsters, except for "Crystron" Link Monsters. During your opponent's Main Phase or Battle Phase (Quick Effect ): You can banish this card; Special Summon 1 Tuner Synchro Monster from your Extra Deck (This is treated as a Synchro Summon.) You can only use each effect of "Crystron Needlefiber" once per turn. This in my opinion would be the perfect errata for the card. 1. It balances the card competitvely ( it can no longer be used as an easy link laddering card ) 2. It keeps the card specific to Crystrons mainly, but other Synchro focused archetypes could still take advantage of the card. 3. It doesn't impact the intended Crystron playstyle but prevents it from being used in other decks 4. It keeps the restriction open-ended for future crystron support ( possibly another link monster in the future ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 Needlefiber is honestly balanced and doesn't need an errata. I'm happy how it's literally made Junk Doppel meta in OCG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 Wait, what? No, Needlefiber doesn't need any kind of errata, IMO. I like how it is and what it does now: it helps tons of decks, and makes Synchro Tuners more relevant and playable. I would rather have it get in the banlist before any weird erratas.Why would they cater to Crystons, anyway? They are not doing anything in the meta, except for Rosenix and of course Needlefiber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragulas Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 Agree with the above comments, needlefiber doesn't need an errata, it has a hard OPT on both effects. Its fair to say it is well designed (on paper). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimagamer Posted August 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 Thinking about what you guys are saying, I might be overthinking my original stance. Is needlefiber in a state like that of the Knightmares, the Borrel link monsters, etc, where they are strong generic staples but aren't considered too powerful? If that is the case then needlefiber might just be in a fine state as is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 Thinking about what you guys are saying, I might be overthinking my original stance. Is needlefiber in a state like that of the Knightmares, the Borrel link monsters, etc, where they are strong generic staples but aren't considered too powerful? If that is the case then needlefiber might just be in a fine state as is. in a word, yes. In some more, it's pretty unfair by comparison to other cards, but the fact that it is available to nearly any deck and just increases complexity of gameplay and widens the variety of the metagame, it is largely accepted to be a positive influence upon the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuriena Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 They should change it to Level 4 or lower to increase the prospects of a Level 4 Crystron Tuner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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