GoldenTide Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 Banned:Firewall Dragon- Generic cards always seem to bite Konami in the butt.Limited:El Shaddoll Construct- They're reprinting a lot of Shaddoll stuff in Valkyrie, so I wouldn't be surprised if this comes backTerraforming- Honestly a longshot, I can see Terraforming escaping this banlistShurit, Strategist of the Nekroz- Whould Nekroz even survive in Links? Only one way to find out...That Grass Looks Greener- It was perfectly fine at one.Yata-Garasu- Just making sure you're paying attention...Semi-Limited:Inzecter Dragonfly/Hornet- Let's just see where it goes. Most likely nowhereUnlimited:Book of Moon- Maybe Flip Effect decks would use more than one, and even that's a stretch.Ritual Beast Ulti-Cannahawk- RB got shafted by Link Summoning, and let's be real, what could really go wrong?Burial From a Different Dimension- Zombie players, rejoice!Necroface- Stromburgh players, this one's for you!Apliqliphort Towers- Yay...T.G. Hyper Librarian- yayRing of Destruction- ye SHURIT, STRATEGIST OF THE NEKROZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 Keep Grass banned for ever. All putting it to one achieves is creating a crappy deck reliant on drawing an instawin 1-of which isn't fun for the person who gets sacked and also isn't fun for the guy playing the 60 card deck most of the time. I can get on board with the rest of them though, and I unironically think Yata can go back to 1. Throw in a ban on Droll, a limit on Hornet Drones and a ban on Knightmare Goblin if Firewall escapes due to anime magic and I'm good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Best Male 2008 Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 Banned: Firewall Dragon- Generic cards always seem to bite Konami in the butt. This card should have had the clause that anything he special summons should be to a zone he points to Limited: El Shaddoll Construct- They're reprinting a lot of Shaddoll stuff in Valkyrie, so I wouldn't be surprised if this comes back Yeet Terraforming- Honestly a longshot, I can see Terraforming escaping this banlist yeah goukis go hard on their field spell abuse Shurit, Strategist of the Nekroz- Whould Nekroz even survive in Links? Only one way to find out... Big dick ideas I like you That Grass Looks Greener- It was perfectly fine at one. no funk you Yata-Garasu- Just making sure you're paying attention... Semi-Limited: Inzecter Dragonfly/Hornet- Let's just see where it goes. Most likely nowhere Put both to three lmao Unlimited: Book of Moon- Maybe Flip Effect decks would use more than one, and even that's a stretch. Yeet Ritual Beast Ulti-Cannahawk- RB got shafted by Link Summoning, and let's be real, what could really go wrong? Only sonic fans and furries care about this card but it can go to three Burial From a Different Dimension- Zombie players, rejoice! Yeah Necroface- Stromburgh players, this one's for you! Ye Apliqliphort Towers- Yay... Put this card to 6 it sucks T.G. Hyper Librarian- No thanks Ring of Destruction- ye Traps suck nyways SHURIT, STRATEGIST OF THE NEKROZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 #FreeStratos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 For TCG to just scrap their awful experiment and copy the OCG list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenTide Posted August 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2018 The Yata thing was a joke, I hope you know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragulas Posted August 8, 2018 Report Share Posted August 8, 2018 Consedirng what Trickstars and altergeist did on Worlds this should be my unreasonable Wish List: Forbidden:Firewall Dragon: This is the only solid hit to goukis (ironically), all of them search each other upon being sent to grave, is either firewall or all of the goukis.Knightmare Corruptor Ilbee: Random hit from my part but considering Knightmares themselves are actually good Link monsters makes sense to keep them a little more, this on the other hand its just the nail in the coffin when you are already extra linked.Cannon Soldier/Toon Cannon Soldier/ Amazoness Archer: FTKs even without firewall it just a matter of time before someone finds a new wayLimited:Trickstar Lycoris: Worded poorly to abuse its SS just from 1 monster + new end proceduresDouble Iris Magician: Ban was a little hard to be honest, with astrograph and SK Venom gone this can make magicians to approach a new directionInspector Boarder: I dislike stun, but it wont surprise me if it ends here, konami tends to make random hits from worlds and this could be 1 of themTrue King Lythosagim: No more no less,Shurit Strategist of the Nekroz: You said it aboveBabycerasaurs: Litho's return should have consecuences.Fairy Tail Snow: I havent forgot about this cardLonfire blosson: People run 3 for deck thining unless you actually play a plant deck (and even then).El Shaddoll Construct: Dont need to say it againHeavymetalfoes Electrumite: Too powerfull at multiplesHornet Drones: Kill the splashable engine, not the deckTerraforming: When is konami going to learnScapegoat: Even if slow, it does too much nowTrickstar reincarnation: Its time for them to change their core strategyAltergeist Protocol/Manifestation: 1 of these should be here I dont care whichSemi-Limited:Ash Blossom: Reprints, also OCGDroll & Lock Bird: Unlike Maxx C, this does shut down decks, however like the former a deck shouldnt be that dependant on gaining massive advantage.Harminizing Magician: At 1 seems harsh, and considering Astrograph is not here 2 seems balanced.Sky Striker - Mobilize Engage: It can be used multiple times, a little hit to consistencyAltergeist Multifaker: Best card of the Deck, not that it hurts them that muchDragonic Diagram: It doesnt have a hard OPT, and many times a player can burn the 3 in 1 turn, at 2 the engine is fine and a its hit to a deck I really dont likeCard of Demise: Again I just dont like the decks it improvesUnion Hangar: A little hit to a deck Konami doesnt get monet from any moreBook Of Moon: Just because Konami is afraid to released it completly, at least leave it at 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNSCardTrader Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 Time lords revise? Anything on the new Ocg and Beta? Is very intimidating.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 Putting Grass back to 1 is a much bigger joke than Yata, it's 2018, if you let yourself get Yata locked in this day and age that's on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 Putting Grass back to 1 is a much bigger joke than Yata, it's 2018, if you let yourself get Yata locked in this day and age that's on you.Agree on Yata, but Grass should be at three again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenTide Posted August 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 The thing about Grass is, is that you have to build an entire deck around it, therefore making it less of a deck and more of a concept. It's the same logic that keeps Final Countdown and Exodia from being banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Best Male 2008 Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 Consedirng what Trickstars and altergeist did on Worlds this should be my unreasonable Wish List: Forbidden:Firewall Dragon: This is the only solid hit to goukis (ironically), all of them search each other upon being sent to grave, is either firewall or all of the goukis.Knightmare Corruptor Ilbee: Random hit from my part but considering Knightmares themselves are actually good Link monsters makes sense to keep them a little more, this on the other hand its just the nail in the coffin when you are already extra linked.Cannon Soldier/Toon Cannon Soldier/ Amazoness Archer: FTKs even without firewall it just a matter of time before someone finds a new wayLimited:Trickstar Lycoris: Worded poorly to abuse its SS just from 1 monster + new end proceduresDouble Iris Magician: Ban was a little hard to be honest, with astrograph and SK Venom gone this can make magicians to approach a new directionInspector Boarder: I dislike stun, but it wont surprise me if it ends here, konami tends to make random hits from worlds and this could be 1 of themTrue King Lythosagim: No more no less,Shurit Strategist of the Nekroz: You said it aboveBabycerasaurs: Litho's return should have consecuences.Fairy Tail Snow: I havent forgot about this cardLonfire blosson: People run 3 for deck thining unless you actually play a plant deck (and even then).El Shaddoll Construct: Dont need to say it againHeavymetalfoes Electrumite: Too powerfull at multiplesHornet Drones: Kill the splashable engine, not the deckTerraforming: When is konami going to learnScapegoat: Even if slow, it does too much nowTrickstar reincarnation: Its time for them to change their core strategyAltergeist Protocol/Manifestation: 1 of these should be here I dont care whichSemi-Limited:Ash Blossom: Reprints, also OCGDroll & Lock Bird: Unlike Maxx C, this does shut down decks, however like the former a deck shouldnt be that dependant on gaining massive advantage.Harminizing Magician: At 1 seems harsh, and considering Astrograph is not here 2 seems balanced.Sky Striker - Mobilize Engage: It can be used multiple times, a little hit to consistencyAltergeist Multifaker: Best card of the Deck, not that it hurts them that muchDragonic Diagram: It doesnt have a hard OPT, and many times a player can burn the 3 in 1 turn, at 2 the engine is fine and a its hit to a deck I really dont likeCard of Demise: Again I just dont like the decks it improvesUnion Hangar: A little hit to a deck Konami doesnt get monet from any moreBook Of Moon: Just because Konami is afraid to released it completly, at least leave it at 2. Sir we are gonna have a talk when I get home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 I think it would help TCG to get maxx c back to three It really helps dampen the power of decks like Gouki THAT BEING SAID, reminder to self to respond to VCR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 The thing about Grass is, is that you have to build an entire deck around it, therefore making it less of a deck and more of a concept. It's the same logic that keeps Final Countdown and Exodia from being banned.Exactly. You build a trash deck reliant on grass so that you highroll and draw it or don't and lose. This is a bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 Exactly. You build a trash deck reliant on grass so that you highroll and draw it or don't and lose. This is a bad thing.What decks draw grass or lose? Lightsworn? Infernoids have like 10 other ways to mill if they don't get Grass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 Any 60 card deck is practically that - you weaken your deck in the hope of drawing specifically grass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 Any 60 card deck is practically that - you weaken your deck in the hope of drawing specifically grassExcept infernoid builds their deck in a way they don't need grass. It's a newer deck, but OCG Chaos Dragon also focus on getting the double dark matter play, sure Grass is nice, but relying solely on grass says more about you than the deck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Best Male 2008 Posted August 11, 2018 Report Share Posted August 11, 2018 Consedirng what Trickstars and altergeist did on Worlds this should be my unreasonable Wish List: Forbidden:Firewall Dragon: This is the only solid hit to goukis (ironically), all of them search each other upon being sent to grave, is either firewall or all of the goukis. How about Gouki RematchKnightmare Corruptor Ilbee: Random hit from my part but considering Knightmares themselves are actually good Link monsters makes sense to keep them a little more, this on the other hand its just the nail in the coffin when you are already extra linked.This card doesn't need to be hit, and people are mostly using it for laddering now, a lot of players stopped giving it away.Cannon Soldier/Toon Cannon Soldier/ Amazoness Archer: FTKs even without firewall it just a matter of time before someone finds a new way. Agreed. Instead of hitting Firewall (which doesn't need to be hit) how about we hit the cards that limit future card designLimited:Trickstar Lycoris: Worded poorly to abuse its SS just from 1 monster + new end procedures. Stays at three. End of match procedures should be reverted or changed. Not this card. Is worded perfectly fine.Double Iris Magician: 3 is fine.Inspector Boarder: if Konami hits this then I'll give away 1 ulti Judgment Dragon away on hereTrue King Lythosagim: No more no less,Shurit Strategist of the Nekroz: You said it aboveBabycerasaurs: Litho's return should have consecuences.Fairy Tail Snow: I havent forgot about this card. No, but everybody else has. People hate this card but who is even winning with this card why hit itLonfire blosson: People run 3 for deck thining unless you actually play a plant deck (and even then). People run 3 for consistency. See Fairy Tail Snow. This card at 1 is useless because you'll see the targets just as often.El Shaddoll Construct: Dont need to say it againHeavymetalfoes Electrumite: Too powerfull at multiplesHornet Drones: Kill the splashable engine, not the deckTerraforming: Fields aren't being abused anymore. They may be in the future, but with Ancient Fairy gone we don't really have to worry as much.Scapegoat: You have this but not Phantom Skyblaster, which is betterTrickstar reincarnation: Its time for them to change their core strategy. If this card is Trickstar's core strategy take my invites to nationals away cause funk this card actually sucks. Altergeist Protocol/Manifestation: 1 of these should be here I dont care whichSemi-Limited:Ash Blossom: noDroll & Lock Bird: Unlike Maxx C, this does shut down decks, however like the former a deck shouldnt be that dependant on gaining massive advantage. This doesn't shut down decks, it shuts down turns, and your opponent is just as likely to draw Called as you are Droll. Unlike Ash that is a one for one trade, I still get a card if my opponent Droll's me.Harminizing Magician: At 1 seems harsh, and considering Astrograph is not here 2 seems balanced. 3 is balancedSky Striker - Mobilize Engage: It can be used multiple times, a little hit to consistency. If we hit Hornet why hit thisAltergeist Multifaker: Best card of the Deck, not that it hurts them that muchDragonic Diagram: It doesnt have a hard OPT, and many times a player can burn the 3 in 1 turn, at 2 the engine is fine and a its hit to a deck I really dont like. Why don't we beat a dead deck even more. This is probably the worst suggestion on this listCard of Demise: Again I just dont like the decks it improves. And all of those decks suck so why hit itUnion Hangar: A little hit to a deck Konami doesnt get monet from any more I dislike "x deck has been floating around for awhile let's hit it". Why the funk are we hitting decks because they are around for awhile. People cry about shallow formats, but it's because of stupid ideas like this.Book Of Moon: Just because Konami is afraid to released it completly, at least leave it at 2. 3 Bolded and italicized Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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