Furries don't deserve the hate that a lot of people throw at them

[I Hate Snatch Steal]

According to google: A furry is "an enthusiast for animal characters with human characteristics, in particular a person who dresses up in costume as such a character or uses one as an avatar online."

 

There is nothing wrong with them based on that definition.

 

This more detailed definition also doesn't show anything deserving of such hatred.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furry_fandom

 

Yet on the internet furries are often severely marginalized.

 

I think that the negativity of the tern has something to do with sexuality or sexual practices, but what I don't know is what the people with negative opinions think specifically. I have a few guesses but I don't what to shoot in the dark. Naturally I have to understand the opposing viewpoint before I can argue against it so I'll let someone else speak.

 

edit: Should I state the "guesses" I mentioned in the above paragraph in order to get the debate going more?

 

edit2: I'm not referring to the rightfully condemn-able sexuality known as zoophila https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoophilia Animals can't give informed consent so raping a cow (for example) is wrong. That's not what furries represent though.

 

edit3: Unless being a furry causes someone to commit crimes, break laws, or otherwise harm people IRL, this is including but not limited to raping an animal or human, what makes being a furry wrong? With respect to raping animals, most furries don't even think about that let alone do it. Also, as I stated further down, putting on furry costumes and having consensual sex with someone may be seen as weird, but its not morally or inherently wrong. Publishing "furry porn" online also isn't inherently wrong since its fiction and thus doesn't hurt anyone.

 

edit4: To prevent people from thinking that my views on sexuality are unsubstantiated, here is a research paper I did in college on the subject (the 2nd part of the link is the decryption key):

https://mega.nz/#!YmZ0gQwL!aMtnvk8dC18jXZVSi2-AzcuxZuYcb7R-Ltz0VV3pxS4

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

I agree...they deserve more

 

We're in the middle of declining population growth rates

 

Now is not the time to want to funk Bambi

[I Hate Snatch Steal]

I agree...they deserve more

 

We're in the middle of declining population growth rates

 

Now is not the time to want to funk Bambi

Your confusing it with bestiality and zoophilia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_zoophilia

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Your confusing it with bestiality and zoophilia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_zoophilia

You're confusing which one Furries are closer to

[I Hate Snatch Steal]

You're confusing which one Furries are closer to

I don't see how this matters. Furries are not out committing sex crimes but some people see them as worse then rapists. Also, what makes a sexuality harmful isn't defined by what its is "closer to". Its defined by what people do IRL with it.

 

Let me throw out a few scenarios here:

1. If someone has sexual intercourse with a cow, that's violating the principle of consent in a way similar to statutory rape. That's wrong.

 

2. Someone writes fictional porn about 2 anthropomorphic animals having a sexual encounter. If it doesn't cross lines such as consent, legal age and/or trying to portray pedophilia with anthros instead of humans its not even close to doing anything wrong. Even if if such elements were present its still fiction. If you want to condemn people for their fictional actions you might as well condemn someone for fictional criminal acts when they are playing GTA.

 

3. Two people put on furry costumes and have sex IRL. If they do it in the privacy of their own home and If they don't violate any laws and don't violate principles such as consent and not engaging in sexual acts with a minor they are fine. Some people would see what they did as weird, but that doesn't make it wrong. They didn't hurt anyone nor did they break any laws.

[宇佐見 蓮子@C94]

furries arent people

 

neither are weebs

or anime fans

or cartoon fans

 

y'all equally degenerate so stop pointing fingers

[I Hate Snatch Steal]

furries arent people

 

neither are weebs

or anime fans

or cartoon fans

 

y'all equally degenerate so stop pointing fingers

What exactly are any of the groups you mentioned doing that is wrong?

[Dad]

furries arent people

neither are weebs

or anime fans

or cartoon fans

y'all equally degenerate so stop pointing fingers

If you have nothing to contribute, trolling is not acceptable. Neither is vitirol. This is your only warning.

[(GigaDrillBreaker)]

Tbh gotta agree with Toyo.

 

As a person who attends conventions regularly (and even just uses this website), I can attest that most furries are funking weirdos.

 

But guess what. So is everyone else. People need to get over themselves.

 

 

 

 

That said, my girlfriend has expressed interest in getting a fursuit (because she thinks it would be comfortable lol) and I'm genuinely horrified

If you have nothing to contribute, trolling is not acceptable. Neither is vitirol. This is your only warning.

her point is a valid one. It isn't vitriol, instead it points out the hypocrisy in attacking subsets, including furries.

[Dova]

That said, my girlfriend has expressed interest in getting a fursuit (because she thinks it would be comfortable lol) and I'm genuinely horrified

 

As someone who would never wear a fursuit if they had the choice, and tying it slightly back into Toyo's point, what's the difference between cosplaying as an anime character and wearing a fursuit, especially in that context of hers?

[I Hate Snatch Steal]

Tbh gotta agree with Toyo.

 

As a person who attends conventions regularly (and even just uses this website), I can attest that most furries are funking weirdos.

 

But guess what. So is everyone else. People need to get over themselves.

 

 

 

 

That said, my girlfriend has expressed interest in getting a fursuit (because she thinks it would be comfortable lol) and I'm genuinely horrified

her point is a valid one. It isn't vitriol, instead it points out the hypocrisy in attacking subsets, including furries.

Why does your girlfriend getting a fursuit worry you so much? Are you worried about your image if your seen with her while she wears it?

[宇佐見 蓮子@C94]

except im not trolling

or throwing any vitriol

 

the idea of hating a subculture because you personally find it weird is very hypocritical and that's what i'm getting at

as for why people get hate for being a furry, in reality they really don't. bashing furries/weebs/etc at this point is an internet meme which a majority are in on. sure you get the occasional actual hater that calls furries funked etc but it's not specifically directed at furries, basically all subcultures have their detractors and trolls and so on, furries are not special in that regard.

 

is it wrong to meme about bashing a subculture? probably, but i personally enjoy throwing shade at myself for being a 'degenerate weeaboo' and i think that's perfectly fine.

[Dad]

 

 

furries arent people

 

except im not trolling

or throwing any vitriol

the idea of hating a subculture because you personally find it weird is very hypocritical and that's what i'm getting at

 

I take nothing you say seriously. Carry on.

[宇佐見 蓮子@C94]

i mean if you think that was nothing more than overexaggeration i'm actually gonna roll with it and keep the meme alive

furries arent humans you heard it here first folks

they're like lizard people trying to push their lizardy agendas, we could call it the furry agenda

[Dad]

i mean if you think that was nothing more than overexaggeration i'm actually gonna roll with it and keep the meme alive

furries arent humans you heard it here first folks

they're like lizard people trying to push their lizardy agendas, we could call it the furry agenda

 

The problem is YCM actually believes everything it says.  And this wouldn't be the first time furries were referred to as "not being people/human".

 

And I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if the comments here were fully on board with the ever so popular trend of "furry genocide".  If you're not a part of that crowd, that's wonderful.  If you are, you'll be subject to the same punishment(s) if any are applicable.

 

And since you thought I was joking about trolling in debates, I'm going to have you take a step back.  This is your second warning.

[~ P O L A R I S ~]

According to google: A furry is "an enthusiast for animal characters with human characteristics, in particular a person who dresses up in costume as such a character or uses one as an avatar online."

 

I think it's the degree to which they're "enthusiasts" that prompts ire, especially when it comes to blurring/crossing the bestiality/zoophilia lines, which they do, often. 

 

If you want to condemn people for their fictional actions you might as well condemn someone for fictional criminal acts when they are playing GTA.

 

I'm all for it. Condemning people for playing GTA, that is. 

[👀 REP 👀]

Furries are basically the internet equivalent of people that constantly remind you that they do, in fact, vape. Multiple times. Even when no one asked or cared.

 

The fact that it is tied to a weird fetish, and the fact that furries have a very distinct and rather cringy way of typing (OwO what's this?) definitely doesn't help. 

[Dova]

Being a furry is considered weird. Have a weird kink? You both are ostracized, so that's a middle ground to share. It's easier for these people to then "join" the fandom to at least share part of your desires with someone.

 

It's a feedback loop.

[Gappy Higashikata]

You're right, they don't deserve the hate.

Not all of them anyway. Occasionally (VERY occasionally) you do come across a legitimate "rawr XD owo what's this" furry and by god they are impossible to talk to at any level. I know someone who does do the whole fursuit thing and you know what? He's a pretty cool guy, he just has a couple of issues with depression and whatnot that me and a couple of other chums are helping him through.

The meme ends up representing the majority, just take a look at the "knife loisence" memes going around right now; that's what people think my country is like (Though they aren't entirely wrong).

tl;dr: memes dictate truth, normies marginalize them because they've got nothing better to do in their shallow lives.