Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 Destiny HERO – Disk Commander Level 1 DARK Warrior Effect Monster ATK 300 DEF 300 You can only use this card name’s effect once per Duel. Cannot be Special Summoned from the GY during the turn it was sent there. (1) If this card is Special Summoned from the GY: You can draw 2 cards. This errata is actually pretty good. As we've seen with Desires, +1s are really good. +2's that can turn into Link Kuriboh are even better. Most likely, you're milling this card with Beatrice, so the same turn restriction wont matter much. After its effect has been spent, you can banish it for celestial for more draws OCG peeps, this being unbanned likely means (1) stratos is going to 3 this list (2) more d-hero support in collectors pack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 As far as d-draw options, this one is searchable by where arf thou. That being said, where arf thou got weakened a fuckton after its best enabler, as well as the two best things to search, were hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 As far as d-draw options, this one is searchable by where arf thou. That being said, where arf thou got weakened a fuckton after its best enabler, as well as the two best things to search, were hit.Why would you not Beatrice it on your Opp's turn, or use summon sorceress to tool and then Mask Change it to the grave? D-Draw is begging for a -1 Ash on you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 Why would you not Beatrice it on your Opp's turn, or use summon sorceress to tool and then Mask Change it to the grave? D-Draw is begging for a -1 Ash on youwhat all of these have in common is that none of them are worth it. Also, a card being weak to 1 hand trap doesn't make it bad. Why do people still think this way? Destiny draw isn't bad because of ghost ash, it's bad because the year is 2018, what the funk are you doing with a destiny hero engine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 what all of these have in common is that none of them are worth it. Also, a card being weak to 1 hand trap doesn't make it bad. Why do people still think this way? Destiny draw isn't bad because of ghost ash, it's bad because the year is 2018, what the funk are you doing with a destiny hero engineMali is easy links, Celestial is easy Draws, OCG will likely put Stratos at 3 There are reasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragulas Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 Once per duel seems a little excesive, but overall is a good errata.Is that really true that more d hero stuff is coming out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 Once per duel seems a little excesive, but overall is a good errata.Is that really true that more d hero stuff is coming out?Likely in the collectors pack. Rumor on the grape vine is that Stratos is getting a reprint OCG side so chance of it going 2->3 this list is SUPER likely All the puzzle pieces point at more D-Heros for the 20th anniversary celebration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconus297 Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 Once per Duel is definitely overkill. A hard once per turn would probably have sufficed, especially when combined with the "not during the turn it went to the Graveyard" restriction added on top of it. That said, an errata of this caliber probably suffices to see it back at 1 TCG-side once Collector's Pack/Relelentless Revenge comes in. Hopefully Destiny HERO doesn't take up all of the GX slots, though, because there are a lot of options that fans have been wanting for a while (Alchemy Beasts, Fossils, certain Yubel/Sacred Beast-related cards, Super Fusion God . . .), and more HERO is probably only going to anger fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 and more HERO is probably only going to anger fans.Have you seen the Hero Fan base? Less Heros will create a riot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconus297 Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 So what you're saying is that Konami can't win with the GX slots between the HERO fans and haters. Lovely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black D'Sceptyr Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 Once per Duel is definitely overkill. A hard once per turn would probably have sufficed, especially when combined with the "not during the turn it went to the Graveyard" restriction added on top of it. That said, an errata of this caliber probably suffices to see it back at 1 TCG-side once Collector's Pack/Relelentless Revenge comes in. Hopefully Destiny HERO doesn't take up all of the GX slots, though, because there are a lot of options that fans have been wanting for a while (Alchemy Beasts, Fossils, certain Yubel/Sacred Beast-related cards, Super Fusion God . . .), and more HERO is probably only going to anger fans. I thought that too, then realized this card with that once per turn errata + Kinka-Byo would equal 3+ card draw turns and almost shuddered my spinal column out of my body. That being said, FINALLY I've gotten to peace with the fact that waiting turns to do your thing with cards isn't the end of the world and this confirms it. I'm actually a big fan of the errata, and think maybe Stratos could return under the same once per Duel change. Oh and one more thing.... As far as d-draw options, this one is searchable by where arf thou. That being said, where arf thou got weakened a fuckton after its best enabler, as well as the two best things to search, were hit. Wholly understand if you're not up for talking after I went Three Mile Island on the Cyber Dragon Ziegler page, and I am wholly sorry for putting you through that, but; you're talking about Level Eater and the two SPYRAL Level 1s in this excerpt, correct? Doubt that'd kill Where Arf Thou if the price is sweet enough (again, I thought the same before, then found out of Shooting Riser-into-Snow-mill-into-Black-Rose on Percy). IN CONCLUSION TO ALL MY POSTS THO: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 I thought that too, then realized this card with that once per turn errata + Kinka-Byo would equal 3+ card draw turns and almost shuddered my spinal column out of my body. That being said, FINALLY I've gotten to peace with the fact that waiting turns to do your thing with cards isn't the end of the world and this confirms it. I'm actually a big fan of the errata, and think maybe Stratos could return under the same once per Duel change. Oh and one more thing.... Whooly understand if you're not up for talking after I went Three Mile Island on the Cyber Dragon Ziegler page but; you're talking about Level Eater and the two SPYRAL Level 1s, correct? Doubt that'd kill Where Arf Thou if the price is sweet enough (again, I thought the same before, then found out of Shooting Riser-into-Snow-mill-into-Black-Rose on Percy). IN CONCLUSION TO ALL MY POSTS THO: Stratos is at 2 in the OCG, and isn't causing any problems at all. It won't get errata'd, TCG should just swallow its pride and unban it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconus297 Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 They don't want to make HERO even more consistent, I think. TCG has 3 Mist 3 E-Call, OCG has 2 Stratos, 1 Mist, 3 E-Call if I remember correctly. A Deck having 7+ costless search cards that work in-theme is what both sides refuse to do, especially after Nekroz. In order to make everyone happy, then, the ideal ratio is 2 of each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 They don't want to make HERO even more consistent, I think. TCG has 3 Mist 3 E-Call, OCG has 2 Stratos, 1 Mist, 3 E-Call if I remember correctly. A Deck having 7+ costless search cards that work in-theme is what both sides refuse to do, especially after Nekroz. In order to make everyone happy, then, the ideal ratio is 2 of each.3 E-Call OCG side too Mist makes Dark Law way too easy. I think the healthy ratio is 3 Stratos: 1 Mist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconus297 Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 And, to fit with the "6 consistency cards" that is common to both, that would result in a semi-limit for E-Call. Not a HERO player, but I like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 And, to fit with the "6 consistency cards" that is common to both, that would result in a semi-limit for E-Call. Not a HERO player, but I like this.7 is my lucky number. Hear me out. AHL is not that great anymore given how you can pay 4k for nothing and lose it all. Playing the low LP game isn't smart unless you're damn sure it's gonna pay off. E-Call with stratos means you're normal locked. Could happen, but I think a third stratos is fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 When this card is Normal Summoned: You can Special Summon 1 Level 4 or lower "HERO" monster from your hand. If this card is sentfrom the Monster Zone to the GY by a Spell effect: You can target 1 "HERO" monster in your GY, except "Elemental HERO Solidman"; Special Summon it in Defense Position. You can only use this effect of "Elemental HERO Solidman" once per turn. Disk Commander needed a hard OPD Between Solidman, Disk Commander, and Wonder Driver, you can keep cranking out +'s Card is solid now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 Wholly understand if you're not up for talking after I went Three Mile Island on the Cyber Dragon Ziegler page, and I am wholly sorry for putting you through that, but; you're talking about Level Eater and the two SPYRAL Level 1s in this excerpt, correct? Doubt that'd kill Where Arf Thou if the price is sweet enough (again, I thought the same before, then found out of Shooting Riser-into-Snow-mill-into-Black-Rose on Percy).first of all, no issues man Second, you're close! Best search targets were level eater and quickfix/drone (they are interchangeable in this context, you use arf to search whichever you don't have). The best enabler was gofu. And yeah, OPD was needed because drawing two is excessive in any situation. I'm thoroughly unconvinced this card is worth running as-is, but it is by no means bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 first of all, no issues man Second, you're close! Best search targets were level eater and quickfix/drone (they are interchangeable in this context, you use arf to search whichever you don't have). The best enabler was gofu. And yeah, OPD was needed because drawing two is excessive in any situation. I'm thoroughly unconvinced this card is worth running as-is, but it is by no means bad.Mill it with Vyon Summon it with Solidman Both are highly searchable. Why would you not run this over something like Pot of Desires which could take out many needed and important cards? For people saying the OPD is too harsh. How many Pot of Desires do you guys typically activate a duel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 Let me rephrase. I don't personally believe heroes to be good enough for this to be relevant. Also, equating a two card, two summon combo to pot of desires basically completely ignores why pot of desires is a good card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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