Restructuring the Mod Team

[Flash Flyer - Sakura]

I don't think it's come up much lately, if at all, but may I ask what the current state of public relations are as far as the mod team is concerned? Back in the complaints thread, I think there was some agreement (I don't want to call it a consensus) that it's fine to abolish a dedicated PR Mod position, and push for the rest of the team to improve their own skills in that regard. Does the team feel that they've been doing better at that?

 

We haven't talked about the PR matter lately, and more/less taking it on selves to be more open with you on what's going on. That's generally why we have that other thread stickied in this section. I do not think a moderator position solely for PR is necessary, and should just fall on us to be more open as individuals. Idea is still there if we need to reinstate it specifically, but again, hasn't been brought up.

 

As for the other question, I can't answer for the rest of the team in general [you have to ask them individually]. In my case though, there's a lot more that I must do, even if I did strive to be more approachable this year and open about what we're doing in the mod area, especially after that last incident. Yes, I have a lot of shortcomings I need to fix, and I'm not happy about a lot of the things I've done during my tenure (especially when they gave me unneeded stress which I didn't need/want on top of anything that comes up off-site). 

 

[i promised that I wouldn't screw up several months ago, but I did. This kind of failure cannot happen again.]

 

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Pertaining to the idea of section mods being dissolved, that's fine. In the old days, that was a necessity due to higher traffic.

 

Nowadays, it's nowhere as large and certain areas usually can get away without being heavily monitored (such as the GFX area and a lot of Multimedia). By design, Custom Cards, TCG and General do need an assigned mod to keep tabs on them for certain; Fanfic/RPs may need one to guide things, but take this with a grain of salt (RP users, has anything improved in there since Zai made attempts to improve things?)

 

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If it interests any of you, I do have some potential changes for CC [specifically Casual at the moment, but it may be expanded to other parts if needed] coming up which will be announced later.

[Yui]

Fanfic/RPs may need one to guide things, but take this with a grain of salt (RP users, has anything improved in there since Zai made attempts to improve things?)

We have the Workshop section which was meant for storing guides and other resources, and getting help with RP or character ideas that you haven't solidified just yet, but...

1. It's a fairly recent addition, having only been added in late January, almost a whole year after Zai was appointed mod (albeit the Workshop wasn't an idea for his entire time as mod, if memory serves; if it was, it taking this long to come into being is a bit of an eyebrow-raiser).
2. Nobody really posts in there. Like, at all. It's only slightly less dead than the Graphics sections.

I'm going to do my best not to make this a hit track on Zai since - even if my stance on his as a mod keeps going up and down - he's still my friend, and there are definitely people better-suited to handle that than me. Other than the addition of the Workshop, Zai brought a section discussion thread into being (which has also lost all the steam it had going for it), and - after a month or so - did some polishing up on the section rules, to which the only notable change was adding the ghosting rule that I'm fairly certain nobody really acknowledges as existing.

 

It was a stupid rule anyway.

 

Now, this is supposed to be the part where I say "But he's been improving on his presence and image on the forum this year, which should account for something", but it seems as if every time I start saying that, he starts falling off on that goal again. Or maybe he's just doing all that behind the scenes work I can't see anymore. Who knows ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[(GigaDrillBreaker)]

 

[i promised that I wouldn't screw up several months ago, but I did. This kind of failure cannot happen again.]

So before, you promised there wouldn't be issues, and yet the issues continued. Considering how easily mods go back on their word (such as night promising to demote Zai if he does poorly at PR) what makes you saying you will be good now, any different from when you did before? The only difference I see is that it has a vague apology thrown in this time. Admitting guilt does not absolve it.

 

I don't mean to pile on, but seriously, where does it end?

Or maybe he's just doing all that behind the scenes work I can't see anymore. Who knows ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

This is actually kinda a decent point, or at the very least something to keep in mind. A few months back, when he did his whole rant about how he shouldn't be receiving the criticism he did, one of the biggest things he brought up in his defense was how active he was in the mod forum. How, even though he didn't do visible work, he was a driving force behind the scenes. Dad supported this claim, if I recall correctly. There have recently been tons of things going on. Black and CowCow were promoted up from Junior, Tormented was brought onto the team, there is now discussion of removing section limitations, and appointing a head mod, cleanup of old stickies has been happening constantly since January, etc etc etc. What I'm getting at, is that as much discussion is going on here, there is surely a commensurate amount in the mod forum. Is his "invisible action" in all of these still enough to serve as a defense?

 

Additionally, in regards to removal of section assignments, it makes me fairly unsure of why some people are mods at all. If each mod is to represent an authority to the entire forum, I think the team should be comprised of people who can relate to the community as a whole. Without each mod being assigned to a specific place, the defense of "well, x section mostly keeps to themselves, so I'm just gonna do my own thing while the rest of YCM does the rest" kinda dies out.

[Dad]

If you want a PR mod, just bring Birdie back.

[(GigaDrillBreaker)]

If you want a PR mod, just bring Birdie back.

I tried to change her member group as you suggest, but then realized I have neither ACP, nor authority.

 

"There should be a pr mod" isn't all that's being said. What is being pointed out is that the team isn't living up to their end of the bargain for "all performing PR". And who are you even talking to? It seems like you are implying that the reason birdie wasn't brought back on already was by member choice, but she was overwhelmingly supported. And if you are talking to the mods... Then why here, why now? Have there been discussions about bringing her back on? After all, there was talk of it months ago during the election, but I haven't seen anything come of it.

 

Also, the purpose of a PR mod isn't "so nobody else has to maintain a good relationship with the members". Whether birdie is on the team or not, much of their behavior is unacceptable.

[Kazooie]

If you want a PR mod, just bring Birdie back.

 

Not sure what sayin' this is supposed to accomplish, since it wasn't really up to the members if I returned or not. As far as I'm aware, it was a brief mention in the mod forum, never got talked about more, when it was brought up, it was passed over again when I just wanted some clarification, so...

 

Feels kinda dishonest to try and use me like that. It's already been made clear to me that I don't feel particularly wanted on the team by the other moderators, and I'm not gonna try to fight upstream against a river that's flowing downstream. So please keep me out of the discussion at this point.

[BANZAI!!!!]

Man I both love and hate these threads. Don’t worry, not textwalls this time, just contributing to the discussion.

 

Not sure what sayin' this is supposed to accomplish, since it wasn't really up to the members if I returned or not. As far as I'm aware, it was a brief mention in the mod forum, never got talked about more, when it was brought up, it was passed over again when I just wanted some clarification, so...

 

Feels kinda dishonest to try and use me like that. It's already been made clear to me that I don't feel particularly wanted on the team by the other moderators, and I'm not gonna try to fight upstream against a river that's flowing downstream. So please keep me out of the discussion at this point.

For the record I don’t think any of us are actually opposed to you in particular at all, as far as I’m aware. The discussion we’re.... discussing was more about timing. At the least on my end.

 

So before, you promised there wouldn't be issues, and yet the issues continued. Considering how easily mods go back on their word (such as night promising to demote Zai if he does poorly at PR) what makes you saying you will be good now, any different from when you did before? The only difference I see is that it has a vague apology thrown in this time. Admitting guilt does not absolve it.

I don't mean to pile on, but seriously, where does it end?This is actually kinda a decent point, or at the very least something to keep in mind. A few months back, when he did his whole rant about how he shouldn't be receiving the criticism he did, one of the biggest things he brought up in his defense was how active he was in the mod forum. How, even though he didn't do visible work, he was a driving force behind the scenes. Dad supported this claim, if I recall correctly. There have recently been tons of things going on. Black and CowCow were promoted up from Junior, Tormented was brought onto the team, there is now discussion of removing section limitations, and appointing a head mod, cleanup of old stickies has been happening constantly since January, etc etc etc. What I'm getting at, is that as much discussion is going on here, there is surely a commensurate amount in the mod forum. Is his "invisible action" in all of these still enough to serve as a defense?

Additionally, in regards to removal of section assignments, it makes me fairly unsure of why some people are mods at all. If each mod is to represent an authority to the entire forum, I think the team should be comprised of people who can relate to the community as a whole. Without each mod being assigned to a specific place, the defense of "well, x section mostly keeps to themselves, so I'm just gonna do my own thing while the rest of YCM does the rest" kinda dies out.

Without section specialties, I don’t think I’d have become a mod in the first place, so as self sabotaging as it sounds, ridding ourselves of that does have merit. I wasn’t really a good candidate for staff in a general sense. I believe “universal” moderators are something that we should at least give a shot, though we sort of already are in cowcow and black’s cases.

 

That said, if we do, I think that we definitely need a triumvirate of, if not super mods specifically, head mods that take a leadership role amomgst us. Someone who we trust to be decisive and push the team in a certain direction, and toward action. And we need three for two reasons: the obvious one is that three prevents one single person from having power over all of the staff, but the more important thing is that we need at least one lf them available on short notice, and having more makes that easier.

 

As far as me, I’ve just been very busy lately with the increased hours at my job and something resembling a social life. Not an excuse, just what’s actually been happening. I’ve been reading the mod forum daily but haven’t contributed much of late. If the community has problems with my performance or activity level, then I say lets take those to a thread about me and keep this one focussed on the team at large.

[Blake]

Leave Birdie out of this.

 

When I got promoted from Junior Moderator, I made a thread asking about @@Kazooie while @@Tormented was being discussed for modship. I wanted to understand why Birdie was never, ever talked about, despite multiple moderators and members supporting her return, including a moderator who had the ability to do the promotion. I did not ask for her to be promoted, but I wanted answers for why she was jerked around with no explanation, even mentioning @@God Emperor Cow who was in a similar, albeit more private, situation with the mod team.
 
One Moderator simply stated "we don't need more mods" and "no reason to". However, the only other mod who replied used it as a chance to try and tear me down and paint me as the villain. Both treated it as me saying "yo, give her the position ASAP". There's no denying I think she should be on the team, but I was not making that push. I could have phrased the OP better, but I tried to make it clear that it wasn't my intent, even though two of those three posts came after that clarification.
 
That's it. A total 3 (1 from Mod A, 2 from Mod B) replies to my query, until Cow posted there earlier today. Not one super moderator. No one cared to explain why she was jerked around. Only to shoot down her potential promotion, despite the fact I never mentioned that. So, after that, she's going to be brought up here? Like that?
  
I will not tolerate her name being used in a shallow attempt to appease people any more. She is someone who did her best, she is a person, she is not a pawn.
 
If you want to give her serious attention, do it. I believe in her. A good amount of the memberbase believes in her. But it was never a question of the memberbase. It was always a question of the team, who has chosen to ignore her when the time actually came.
 
Yanking Birdie or anyone around like this is inexcusable.

 

I believe "put up or shut up" applies here.
 

For the record I don’t think any of us are actually opposed to you in particular at all, as far as I’m aware. The discussion we’re.... discussing was more about timing. At the least on my end.

Will add more after I get out of bed and am concious but like.
 
Do we honestly need even more people right now? Things are being done, changes to the site are being made, and the members seem pretty onboard. This feels more like promoting someone because we want her here rather than there being a need for it.
 
The questions that should be asked, both now and going forward whenever we talk about promoting or electing anyone are
 
“Is there a need for a new mod?”
 
“What role will they fill?”
 
I like Birdie fine but I’m not seeing a need or a reason here.

What part of this post is about timing?

[BANZAI!!!!]

“Is there a need for a new mod?”

 

“What role will they fill?”

 

These sentences specifically. What I meant by “timing” above was “do we need a new mod right now?” My opinion at the time was no. I have zero problems with her specifically being on the team nor was I really objecting to you bringing it up.. The rest of the conversation was the result of stress and poor communication on the part of some of us. And that we haven’t resolved that mixup yet concerns me.

 

Also For the record, copypasting directly from the mod forum to public is not something I think we should do without discussing it first. Its harmless this time but I think you shouldn’t act so rashly.

[Blake]

“Is there a need for a new mod?”

 

“What role will they fill?”

 

These sentences specifically. What I meant by “timing” above was “do we need a new mod right now?” My opinion at the time was no. I have zero problems with her specifically being on the team nor was I really objecting to you bringing it up.. The rest of the conversation was the result of stress and poor communication on the part of some of us. And that we haven’t resolved that mixup yet concerns me.

 

Also For the record, copypasting directly from the mod forum to public is not something I think we should do without discussing it first. Its harmless this time but I think you shouldn’t act so rashly.

Now you're mincing words. You never mentioned timing, merely echoed issues brought up by the other staff member who replied. You can spin it, but that is not the point you presented. Which, again, was at the same time as talk of promoting Tormey, which you did not weigh in on for days, despite that thread being posted before the Birdie thread. If that was your concern, you could have brought it up there.

 

You could have weighed in on the lack of resolution or the mixup. You could have said more than "we don't need birdie". Your actions do not match your claims.

 

You can think that. But it's not rash when it's pointing out an inconsistency.

[LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow]

Also For the record, copypasting directly from the mod forum to public is not something I think we should do without discussing it first. Its harmless this time but I think you shouldn’t act so rashly.

Okay...so I was holding off on mentioning this until someone said something about the about mod activity in the mod forum. And since you did for your own thing, I think this is a good time for me to give the most honest answer I can.

 

Or maybe he's just doing all that behind the scenes work I can't see anymore. Who knows ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Note this is just my experience in the mod forum since joining.

Sakura and Dad are really good about responding to things in the mod forum and bringing stuff up.

Me and Black have, I think, been pretty good about it too. We've both also brought up issues and such.

Night is...missing. That will be worked out soon too.

Zai, as he said, has been busy. I've not seen him post very often and unless someone directly goes to him in Discord he tends to not say much. Now again...he literally got extra busy as I was added to the team so keep that in mind.

Broken...posts when it has to do with warnings mostly. He doesn't discuss much BUT as far as I can tell he keeps up the moderation of TCG.

And Flame comes in on occasion to weigh in on bigger issues.

Oh and Tormented just recently joined so yeah.

 

So what I'm getting at is the mod forum is mostly being used by a few of us and the rest on occasion drop by. Though in the time I've been there it seems hard to get discussion going on between more than 2/3 mods for most subjects.

 

Which, Zai, might be why he didn't discuss putting the quote in.

[BANZAI!!!!]

Tormented was practically on the team already and had a role and need he was/is filling: technical issues. I wasn’t really on board with giving him acess to the mod forum to begin with but it was done and good things came of it, ‘nuff said.

 

I didn’t feel there was a need to have another moderator who wasn’t there for a specific reason when we were having that discussion. It had nothing to do with bree herself. I even said as much. If you misunderstood me, then I apologize for not being clearer about what I meant when I wrote it. It wasn’t me echoing anyone. It was just my opinion. Nothing came of it afterward and so I let it be.

[LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow]

Tormented was practically on the team already and had a role and need he was/is filling: technical issues. I wasn’t really on board with giving him acess to the mod forum to begin with but it was done and good things came of it, ‘nuff said.

Okay sorry but um.

More Cow Facts.

>I made thread to talk about Tormented as mod on Feb 23rd

>Feb 24th Flame says that it would be fine

>We wait a bit to see what members and other mods have to say

>Februrary 28th Sakura tells us you told him on Discord you disapprove

>Same day we decide to promote him in March

>You get mentioned in a post and post that you're all for it and things are working out

 

Basically the confusion for me here is...why weren't you able to come in to discuss it before that?

The reason I'm posting this is because I want to make something clear to everyone, because they deserve to know

The Mod Forum often gets very limited use

They deserve to know that so that they understand why the team restructure is important to discuss.

 

Also the thread involving Birdie was posted Feb 24th, and the posts in question the 25th, so it was actually after the Tormented thread was created.

[BANZAI!!!!]

Work and a busy weekend, mostly. I had a family function and was seeing irl friends, iirc. I had mentioned to Sakura that I was a unsure about just adding tormey to the team, but I wasn’t really available to dedicate the time to sit down on YCM and voice some fairly minor concerns I had about just up and adding tormented to staff, especially since judging by what I was reading, I had a minority opinion and it wouldn’t have amounted to much other than delaying things getting done.

 

And while yes, the mod forum is sort of quiet and I guess that’s something worth telling people. We have other ways of communicating. I’m pretty much always on skype and everyone short of flame and sakura has me on there, and I rarely hear a peep about mod things from anyone who isn’t Cowcow. I think its less about us not using the forums and more about us not communicating with one another in general.

[Blake]

That... doesn’t answer why you could reply to a thread posted after the Tormey thread but not the Tormey thread. When the same concerns seemed to apply to both.

 

The problem is that there is no mod “team”. There’s a bunch of mods that all happen to be Staff on this site. There is no unity, just a forced sense of “loyalty” that usually amounts to staunch defense of any and all decisions, regardless of the members or the impact, or simply stagnating. Which is the problem with the mod forum, among others.

 

That’s why restructuring and being honest are key right now. Not playing games, not using pawns, just getting it done.

[BANZAI!!!!]

That... doesn’t answer why you could reply to a thread posted after the Tormey thread but not the Tormey thread. When the same concerns seemed to apply to both.The problem is that there is no mod “team”. There’s a bunch of mods that all happen to be Staff on this site. There is no unity, just a forced sense of “loyalty” that usually amounts to staunch defense of any and all decisions, regardless of the members or the impact, or simply stagnating. Which is the problem with the mod forum, among others.That’s why restructuring and being honest are key right now. Not playing games, not using pawns, just getting it done.

I posted about birdie on sunday the 25th, between a haircut and another arrangement. I haddn’t had the time to get on YCM for a long stretch since before the 23rd, and birdie’s thread was about all the non-RP YCM time I had before my workweek started. I posted 2 sentences in the tormented thread that wednesday because I was mentioned and staying silent when you all thought I had something to say (which wasn’t much to begin with) was going to do no good. Not really sure what the confusion here is about. I’m busy and low on energy, that’s basically the long and the short of my situation for the past month or so.

 

Now, on topic, I agree with the quote above, more or less, but I’d also like to add that I think it’d be helpful if we all (meaning staff) kept ourselves abreast of things that actually need doing. I think its great that we’re spending the first part of this year reevaluating and restructuring, but what is it that staff needs to actually do on a regular basis? A to-do list and a way of fast communication that we’re all involved in would go a long way.

[Flame Dragon]

For the topic at hand.

 

I like having the sections simply so members know who to go to if they have an issue with something in any one section. Past that, they are pretty outdated. I feel like I've said this publicly before, but just to say it again, back when I became a mod, mods were limited to their section. When I was the Video Game mod I couldn't do things in sections behind it. Supers were the ones that could moderate anywhere. When Pika changed everything around all mods basically became supers and supers were given increased access to the Admin CP.

 

Since I am the main/only candidate for head moderator I'll just say I'm fine with the idea. While it was never a specific label we've basically always had someone on the team who acted as the lead.

 

For the stuff about Birdie

 

I think I brought this up when this was originally brought up, but I think it just got lost in the shuffle. While I try to make a point to follow the important topics in the mod forum and follow the section (though I feel like I don't always get notifications for new topics) generally I only keep up with the ones where I post so I most certainly have blind spots. I know for sure this happened with Cow since it was brought up having him become a mod last year and it was only after he poked me that I actually got the decision moving forward again. My guess is something similar happened with Birdie. My guess is Cow would have the best idea if thats right since he went through the forum and would have seen what actually happened with it.

[Blake]

I posted about birdie on sunday the 25th, between a haircut and another arrangement. I haddn’t had the time to get on YCM for a long stretch since before the 23rd, and birdie’s thread was about all the non-RP YCM time I had before my workweek started. I posted 2 sentences in the tormented thread that wednesday because I was mentioned and staying silent when you all thought I had something to say (which wasn’t much to begin with) was going to do no good. Not really sure what the confusion here is about. I’m busy and low on energy, that’s basically the long and the short of my situation for the past month or so.

 

Now, on topic, I agree with the quote above, more or less, but I’d also like to add that I think it’d be helpful if we all (meaning staff) kept ourselves abreast of things that actually need doing. I think its great that we’re spending the first part of this year reevaluating and restructuring, but what is it that staff needs to actually do on a regular basis? A to-do list and a way of fast communication that we’re all involved in would go a long way.

But then why tackle the unlikely one (which wasn't even a push) instead of the impending one you had more reservations about, yet never expressed? That absoluetly does not add up. Lots of people are busy and low on energy, as well.

 

Our job is to discuss. To handle things as they come, other than events. There's always something to discuss since the election, though partly due to Tormey working on improvements... But that just means we have a whole new thing to factor in, considering we now have the ability to edit the site, make new features, etc. It's been going for over a month, and while it has slowed, there are still things to work on and discuss that get little-to-nothing. From most, if not all, of us.

 

 

For the topic at hand.

 

I like having the sections simply so members know who to go to if they have an issue with something in any one section. Past that, they are pretty outdated. I feel like I've said this publicly before, but just to say it again, back when I became a mod, mods were limited to their section. When I was the Video Game mod I couldn't do things in sections behind it. Supers were the ones that could moderate anywhere. When Pika changed everything around all mods basically became supers and supers were given increased access to the Admin CP.

 

Since I am the main/only candidate for head moderator I'll just say I'm fine with the idea. While it was never a specific label we've basically always had someone on the team who acted as the lead.

 

For the stuff about Birdie

 

I think I brought this up when this was originally brought up, but I think it just got lost in the shuffle. While I try to make a point to follow the important topics in the mod forum and follow the section (though I feel like I don't always get notifications for new topics) generally I only keep up with the ones where I post so I most certainly have blind spots. I know for sure this happened with Cow since it was brought up having him become a mod last year and it was only after he poked me that I actually got the decision moving forward again. My guess is something similar happened with Birdie. My guess is Cow would have the best idea if thats right since he went through the forum and would have seen what actually happened with it.

I just wanna say outright that I support Flame as head mod, because I don't think I actually stated that yet.

 

And yeah, we talked about Birdie over PM, and I believe you. But that's why I wanted answers beyond that, because it struck me as odd that none of the mods in favor of her contacted her or made a mention of her in the moderator forum. Cow can confirm that.

[BANZAI!!!!]

Last thing I’ll say about it, because I don’t want this derailed any further. I was lukewarm to tormented, I never had any major reservations, and I think I articulated that above. The gist of what I said to sakura I think was “I don’t like that we just handed him admin powers and I’m not sure handing him moderator powers on top of it is the best idea.” I was just unsure about what we were doing at the time. I just happened to see the thread abot Birdie that sunday and ended up spending my free time that day adressing it and the fallout from it. It just happened to get my attention.

 

And this is all the more reason why i think we need a hotline and/or a bulliten board of some kind. I’m not sure about the rest of the team but it’d be pretty helpful to me if we had a stickied to do list or stuff to prioritize. It’d also help whoever is in the lead to delegate things to people so that they actually get done, rather than someone volunteering to do so in a thread pertaining to a subject. Streamlining, in other words.

[King K. Azo]

You know what? I think every time we have an issue with the mod team it boils down to "There is no communication". By this point, it's obvious that just adding new people isn't going to fix a damn thing, the 'senior members' aren't going to magically start communicating with each other. They're comfortable in the position they're in, and we can't force them out.

 

Even still, we need to get rid of the old. 

 

Yeah. I said it. We need to have a new team, because no matter how we want to spin pretty words about it, this isn't working. Honestly, everyone, and I mean everyone that is currently on the team that have been here before this latest election need to go.

 

Let's break down why this needs to happen. When you look at Cowcow and Black, they make threads all the time, telling us what's up, asking our opinion, the works. And they do all this without being told. That's VERY good.

 

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Sakura: First, you don't learn from you damn mistakes. You're not new at this, you've been a mod for a long time. You're making the same mistakes over and over, and this is unacceptable. You even say it's unacceptable, but you do nothing to prevent yourself from making the same mistakes. If you can't measure up to YOUR OWN STANDARDS, then there is an issue that probably requires time away from modding and some self-reflection/taking care of IRL business. And I mean a good long time, like half a year or more.

 

Night: Why wasn't this taken care of already?

 

Flame Dragon: I like you, I really do, but you're not on. I mean, you are, but you aren't HERE. In these threads, talking to us. You come in now and then with a comment and two, and that's about it. If you're busy, then seriously, focus on your life. It's more important than this forum. 

 

I know most people want you as head mod, and I probably would be okay with that. I'm doing you more so out of fairness, and if you are becoming a head mod, you have even more scrutiny needed.

Dad: I don't really have anything against you, nor do most people. I have concerns that shouldn't be voiced publicly, but you're fine for the most part. Keep up the good work.

 

Zai: I have words for you. But, I will wait for that thread that is apparently coming.

 

Broken: You... certainly exist. Somewhere, you're doing your job... mod Batman.

 

That's all I have on this subject. I don't think this will make much of a difference, nor will it be taken that seriously, but, it's out there. Let it not be said I didn't give my thoughts.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Last thing I’ll say about it, because I don’t want this derailed any further. I was lukewarm to tormented, I never had any major reservations, and I think I articulated that above. The gist of what I said to sakura I think was “I don’t like that we just handed him admin powers and I’m not sure handing him moderator powers on top of it is the best idea.” I was just unsure about what we were doing at the time. I just happened to see the thread abot Birdie that sunday and ended up spending my free time that day adressing it and the fallout from it. It just happened to get my attention.

 

And this is all the more reason why i think we need a hotline and/or a bulliten board of some kind. I’m not sure about the rest of the team but it’d be pretty helpful to me if we had a stickied to do list or stuff to prioritize. It’d also help whoever is in the lead to delegate things to people so that they actually get done, rather than someone volunteering to do so in a thread pertaining to a subject. Streamlining, in other words.

A significant portion of the community endorsed Tormey. That should be good enough for you. Again, reminder. You guys work for us. Not for each other

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I also think that the term Super Mod is kinda cheapened right now. Like what does it mean? Back when Evil was around, he made the final decisions, and was thus a "super" mod. But that's clearly not what's happening right now. Flame kinda functions as the pseudo head of the mod team, or did at least. Not sure why Sakura and Night both have that term. Sakura is kinda the swiss army knife of the team.H And night is a glorified memory from an eon ago. 

 

That's really all I have to say at this time. 

[Mr. Best Male 2008]

This is my contribution to the topic, "?" is for wtf do you do as staff, "!" is for the good mods. Sakura gets red because idk why we have furries on the staff. I feel like we have too many staff members who don't actually contribute anymore than a regular member would. There seems to be no motivation asides from a handful of you.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

 

This is my contribution to the topic, "?" is for wtf do you do as staff, "!" is for the good mods. Sakura gets red because idk why we have furries on the staff. I feel like we have too many staff members who don't actually contribute anymore than a regular member would. There seems to be no motivation asides from a handful of you.

Broke did a bunch of reforms to TCG/OCG

 

Like em or not, he asked for the TCG community's input, gave time for deliberations, and is fairly active in his section. Not exactly a pal of his, but gonna have to step in and defend him here. 

[Flame Dragon]

 

This is my contribution to the topic, "?" is for wtf do you do as staff, "!" is for the good mods. Sakura gets red because idk why we have furries on the staff. I feel like we have too many staff members who don't actually contribute anymore than a regular member would. There seems to be no motivation asides from a handful of you.

Near as I can tell Broken does his job as the TCG mod well. As Cow alluded to I wish he'd join in on the mod section discussions more, but he does his main job so I can't really complain.

[LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow]

Night: Why wasn't this taken care of already?

 

Flame Dragon: I like you, I really do, but you're not on. I mean, you are, but you aren't HERE. In these threads, talking to us. You come in now and then with a comment and two, and that's about it. If you're busy, then seriously, focus on your life. It's more important than this forum. 

 

I know most people want you as head mod, and I probably would be okay with that. I'm doing you more so out of fairness, and if you are becoming a head mod, you have even more scrutiny needed

 

1. Soon my child.

 

2. Since Flame is a l00ser and didn't answer this I'll say...Flame from my experience seems to be a very quiet individual but I will attest that he does speak up when he has to.