[Written] Obscured Deathhire

[Dokutah]

Obscure Deathhire

EARTH / Level 4 / Zombie / Flip / Effect

 

FLIP: add 1 of either Flip Monster(s) and/or Effect Monster(s) that has "flipped" listed on its Effect from your Deck to your hand. you cannot add "Obscure Deathhire" by this effect.

When your opponent Activate cards or effect that target face-down card(s) you control in the same and/or adjacent to this card Column while this card is face-down (Including this card) (Quick Effect): Change this card to face-up Defense Position, and if you do, negate the activation or effect

 

ATK 1500 / DEF 0

 

[spoiler=Old effects]

FLIP: add up to 2 of either Flip Monster(s) and/or Effect Monster(s) that has "flipped" listed on its Effect(s) with different names from your Deck to your hand. if this card is flipped face-up by card effect you cannot add "Obscure Deathhire" by this effect.

When your opponent Activate cards or effect that target face-down card(s) you control in the same and/or adjacent to this card Column (including this card) (Quick Effect): Change this card to face-up Defense Position, and if you do, negate the activation. and then return that card to the top of his/her deck.

 

ATK 1500 / DEF 0

 

 

so the first effect is basically not only add Flip Monster but also "flip-flop" effect monster like Ghostricks and Rock Monsters of Invincible Fortress.

[Darj]

I'm curious on why you went for DARK/Zombie typing, I mean, the Fortress Rocks, as well as other pseudo-flips like Geargiarmor are EARTH, so I would have expected this to be at least EARTH/Zombie.

On the second effect, because of the PSCT I assume it's usable whether the monster is face-down or in face-up Attack Position? Regardless, looks like a good effect to me, great for protecting backrow, fellow Set monsters or itself and punish with the topdeck effect.

Flip effect is good, too. It may be slow, but 2 searchers compensates it, IMO. Plus coupled with its second effect you can't complain about the inherent slowness of the Flip effect.

[zepheris]

Thing is, face down cards can't use effects, so the "Including itself" bit is a bit odd. It's like mysterious triangle's LP penalty. Unless you want this effect to be usable when it's face down, which opens up a whole new can of worms, especially because the flip effect then activates, netting you a +3 immediately (Opponent loses the card, you search 2). The search range is also extremely wide, including cards every single spirit monster. I, honestly don't like this card. It seems too abusable. It's not gonna make spirits tier zero or anything, but it does too much. It searches two cards, each with over 100 targets, without any negative effects, it also protects adjacent monsters annd itself, and it can completely screw a duel on its own. It's one thing to negate a nobleman of crossout, but what if it was a big monster that was negated? That makes your opponent go to too much minus, and you get to search 2 cards. If the opponent just attacks into it, or if it survives a turn, you can even search copies. It does too much. I don't like this card.

[Darj]

Oh, that's true it will negate the card and flip itself face-up, triggering the x2 search. That does sound like too much, even if it depends on the opponent targeting something. It would be fine IMO if the flip effect didn't trigger in that case.

Didn't realize it could search for all Spirits, either.

[Dokutah]

Welp better accidently create something powerful to be tone down rather reworking super underpowered card

 

The negation effect is based on Big Shield Gardna albeit another approach on it @@Darj @@zepheris. That being said i probably need to make it more clear

 

can Search Spirit Monster found is nice...i probably keep it though

[Dokutah]

edited