Ryusei the Morning Star Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 and now you’ve missed the entire point of my postI do get the pt, but it's not the focus of the deck in OCG, cause OCG wasn't stupid enough to move it from 1->3 after pepeReally contemplating switching to OCG. Anyways I was surprised Monster Reborn got to 1, but then I remembered OCG has it at 1. Plus, like British Soul mentioned, there's that thing with TCG getting original artwork of the card. Of course they would copy OCG and put Firewall Dragon to 1. The first anime protagonist's card (That barely even makes an appearance in anime these days) got hit yet again. The reason is understandable though. I'm not sure what they are thinking bringing back Towers and Damage Juggler. Maybe Konami really hates us. Pretty sure putting SPYRAL Resort at 1 killed the entire archetype... but I'm not sure. All Unlimited cards are mostly new erratas so everyone saw it coming. But did it really took them that long to unban fuckin Ojama Trio?Do it, you can play just about anything you want and have a decent chance at winningIt's a super well made format currently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 I never said it was the focus in TCG. It totally wasn’t. People just blindly saw “OMG JOKER HAS SO MANY TARGETS SO GOOD”, ignoring the issues that an NS reliant searcher in pends actually has. Again, Magicians have nothing better to do with an NS, but decks like Odd-Eyes Goodstuff or Ppal variants do. I’m fully expecting OE Goodstuff to show up in OCG soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proto Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 trickstars are tier 0 this format and they were the least fun deck to play against in the first place the addition of unsearchable game winner cards like solemn and reborn is something im never gonna agree with droll + reincarnation not being hit at all is a travesty though at the very least some of the degeneracy enablers are gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas★Zero Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 http://www.yugioh-card.com/uk/gameplay/detail.php?id=1155 Forbidden --------------------------------------- Blackwing - Gofu the Vague Shadow Dandylion Double Iris Magician Level Eater Maxx "C" Performapal Skullcrobat Joker Limited --------------------------------------- Apoqliphort Towers Grinder Golem Performage Damage Juggler Firewall Dragon Monster Reborn SPYRAL Resort Solemn Judgment Semi-Limited --------------------------------------- -No Changes- Unlimited --------------------------------------- Artifact Moralltach Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning Card Trooper Thunder King Rai-Oh Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier Brain Control El Shaddoll Fusion Future Fusion Mind Control Preparation of Rites Saqlifice Bottomless Trap Hole Ceasefire Ojama Trio Torrential Tribute So looking at this... Pendulum Magicians got hit hard. Good riddance to Level Eater and Maxx "C". Gofu, Dandylion, Golem and Firewall hit for obvious reasons. Towers returning along with long time banned Monster Reborn and Solemn Judgement is nice. THE RETURN OF DUPE TROOP IS NIGH!!! Finally love how Konami gives us 3 Bottomless Trap Hole now as I will be putting them into my deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 Wait, TCG left Trickstar Reincarnation at funking 3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted February 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 Good riddance to Level Eater and Maxx "C".I can agree about saying good riddance to Level Eater, it had it coming for a while tbph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCR_CAT Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 Nothing much for me to say that hasn't been said, so let's move on to "So what's going to happen with the meta?" Starring my Loose Predicitions. Take 'em with as much salt as you need.[spoiler=How November 2017 ended off] Last we left our heroes, SPYRAL still held a commanding lead of Tier 1 with Trickstars and Magicians trailing far behind. The hits against Grinder, Gofu, Firewall etc. affect the general pool of "Generic Engine Goodstuffs", combined with the hit against Resort definitely gives them a larger smack to the wrist, but it will remain to see how much of an impact that has on the deck's performance, considering how far and away it is. Trickstars are likely to stay where they are, either as first or second, simply due to them not being touched, but Pendulum decks are starting to look like a real wildcard. But what about Extreme Force?Neither the Mythical Beasts or Mekk Knights are themes that have had any sort of impact on the meta. F.A.'s are still as poor of a deck as ever, and Vendreads are lacking any sort of end-game goal. However, the real money lies in the LVP imports that EXFO received, particularly Electrumite. Pendulum Magicians take a big hit from the list for sure, however this isn't to say that it's impossible for the deck to bounce back with any sort of other engines. They still have access to a lot of tools and cards, and in particular Double Iris's ban might be the ultimate shift of Pendulum Magicians away from a scale-self-destruction focus to being able to take full advantage of Pendulum Call being at 3. On top of that, there's still that little two-card engine that Mythical Beasts offer that give better access to Electrumite. Zefra's have stood really low on the tier list, but the hit against SPYRAL's and Magicians combined with the addition of pendulum goodstuffs might be what they need to push up some more. I would say keep an eye on ABC's, however we have yet to receive either Needlefiber or Summon Sorceress, so they're probably just going to stay where they are, if not drop from the lack of Gofu or Grinder. Overall, I would say that Trickstars being near the top is a given, but beyond that I would say Pendulum Decks are almost poised to grab a bigger piece of the pie. It'll remain to be seen how much of a hit SPYRAL's take from this change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkaterTheDJWolf Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 Level Eater got banned, Firewall is at 1, the rest of the list is irrelevant. Thank you Konami for killing those cancer decks. Maxx got banned? Gaaah! Gofu and Dandylion... guess 2 free tokens is 2 much for Konami. Monster Reborn and Solemn Judgement are BACK. YES!!! Even though metas can abuse this, it’s still amazing! Bottomless Trap Hole? Oh yeah! Running at 3! SPYRALs have had it coming for... 4 months now. How did Trickstars dodge the ban? Did Aoi pull some strings or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragulas Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 How did Trickstars dodge the ban? Did Aoi pull some strings or something?Maybe her brother got a job at konami after being tired of Sol Tech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Best Male 2008 Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 How Trickstars were left completely intact when they're as degenerate as anything I'll never know. They're pretty clearly the best deck now. funk you don't talk sheet about my loli.dek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Level Eater got banned, Firewall is at 1, the rest of the list is irrelevant. Thank you Konami for killing those cancer decks. Maxx got banned? Gaaah! Gofu and Dandylion... guess 2 free tokens is 2 much for Konami. Monster Reborn and Solemn Judgement are BACK. YES!!! Even though metas can abuse this, it’s still amazing! Bottomless Trap Hole? Oh yeah! Running at 3! SPYRALs have had it coming for... 4 months now. How did Trickstars dodge the ban? Did Aoi pull some strings or something? OCG sure abusing that Reborn (Staples get in the 100-200 range btw)https://ygorganization.com/ocg-japan-china-decklists-01-29-2018/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Best Male 2008 Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Reborn back is more of a novelty than anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Reborn back is more of a novelty than anything else.A friend described it best. Decks that are lower tier, tend to need it. Decks that are already meta, have no need for it As far as OCG, it serves more as a tier blunter making 1.5 less discernible Plant Synchro likes it tho, but that Dandy ban :( Solemn J is functionally the worse of the three Last week we saw 36 Solemn Strikes (semi)20 Solemn Warning (SEMI)18 Solemn Judgment (limited) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerer Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Last week we saw 36 Solemn Strikes (semi)20 Solemn Warning (SEMI)18 Solemn Judgment (limited) Is that "saw" as in decks running, or "saw" as in actively appeared/used on the field in tournaments? Because if the latter, it kinda would make logical sense that a semi-limited card actively appears more than a limited card. Looks like some power traps are back to 3, huh? Guess I can make a more powerful Card of Demise control/stun deck. Artifact Blue Buster helps too. Something something groundhog seeing shad(doll) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vla1ne Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 watch monster reborn get shot down again after the promo. also, with the semi revival of strong backrow cards, the hits to two of the top decks, and the early release of designator, a lot of slower paced decks should have a new shot at the top of the charts. my only remorse is that "C" died without taking the forehead loli at least partially along with it. but we've finally got some new breath in the format, so let's see what happens with it. also, how the hell did subterror do so well in the OCG? is guru that much of a game changer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Is that "saw" as in decks running, or "saw" as in actively appeared/used on the field in tournaments? Because if the latter, it kinda would make logical sense that a semi-limited card actively appears more than a limited card. Looks like some power traps are back to 3, huh? Guess I can make a more powerful Card of Demise control/stun deck. Artifact Blue Buster helps too. Something something groundhog seeing shad(doll)It's a compilation of all the top4-8 of the recent OCG tournaments in the last week. In totally x number of Y card were usedIs that "saw" as in decks running, or "saw" as in actively appeared/used on the field in tournaments? Because if the latter, it kinda would make logical sense that a semi-limited card actively appears more than a limited card. Looks like some power traps are back to 3, huh? Guess I can make a more powerful Card of Demise control/stun deck. Artifact Blue Buster helps too. Something something groundhog seeing shad(doll)It's a compilation of all the top4-8 of the recent OCG tournaments in the last week. In totally x number of Y card were used Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vla1ne Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 It's a compilation of all the top4-8 of the recent OCG tournaments in the last week. In totally x number of Y card were usedso you mean the number of people running it right? because if it's total number ran, the fact that it's limited vs semi limited makes the statement moot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 It's total number Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Best Male 2008 Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 watch monster reborn get shot down again after the promo. also, with the semi revival of strong backrow cards, the hits to two of the top decks, and the early release of designator, a lot of slower paced decks should have a new shot at the top of the charts. my only remorse is that "C" died without taking the forehead loli at least partially along with it. but we've finally got some new breath in the format, so let's see what happens with it. also, how the hell did subterror do so well in the OCG? is guru that much of a game changer? Hitting the hand traps is taking a step back in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vla1ne Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Hitting the hand traps is taking a step back in the game.ash needs a hit regardless. as should evenly matched, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 ash needs a hit regardless. as should evenly matched, imo.Subterror is a rutheless negation Engine easily combined with artifacts, wind witch and oppressive backrowThink 2017 hat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Best Male 2008 Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 ash needs a hit regardless. as should evenly matched, imo. big ol no. ash is a one for one and bricks. evently matched is fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Just put maxx back at three TCG undos like half its impulsive moves anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Jesse Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 http://www.yugioh-card.com/uk/gameplay/detail.php?id=1155 Limited---------------------------------------Solemn Judgment I know trap cards aren't that great right now but I have a sinking feeling that this will backfire horribly if they ever are. Might just be PTSD from TeleDAD format though. I don't like Maxx at 0 either. It's pretty much the least offensive hand trap compared to some of the sillier bullshit like Ash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Solemn is bad, Oh, you negated my card for 4k? *vomits 5k worth of damage on board with 2 cards* GET REKT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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