(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted January 19, 2018 Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 I like Giga, he's very high up on my list of ideal mods, but he's not the top spot. There's not point trying to sink him to back someone who won't win It's like voting 3rd party. StupidThe system of voting literally supports voting for less popular candidates without risk of repercussion. If you vote for 3 people ahead of me, and none of them make it, your vote counts as one for myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted January 19, 2018 Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 The system of voting literally supports voting for less popular candidates without risk of repercussion. If you vote for 3 people ahead of me, and none of them make it, your vote counts as one for myself.Wait what.... So what happens if someone else gets a plurality. For arguments sake, let's say I support X, X doesn't win, but you also don't get a majority, and someone has a plurality that is nether you nor X In any case, I'm 95% happy with my choices. No matter who wins, this is a huge moment for YCM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vla1ne Posted January 19, 2018 Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 It's like voting 3rd party. Stupidwhile i disagree with you on this, i understand why you think this way, but i'm gonna have to say i'm rather sure that while popular, the overlap of popular candidates in and of itself is also capable of negating some of that popularity. at least in this case. that's what makes this election interesting. and in the case of your above example, i believe we either revote, or the closest to majority may get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted January 19, 2018 Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 Maine is actually voting using this model starting 2018...this sheet is so confusing...I'm gonna enjoy watching the chaos lel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted January 19, 2018 Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 It's not even confusing. The candidate with the least support is removed, then any vote that was for them is replaced by that voter's next choice down the line. This is repeated until there is a majority win. It means that, even if a voter's first, second, third, etc picks don't win, they still were able to give input on the outcome. It takes a bit of adjusting to, but this system is used for a reason, and works especially well in a ballot with 6 wildcards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted January 20, 2018 Report Share Posted January 20, 2018 I completely forgot, but I was rereading OP to double check the end date and...1) We are talking about the possibility of second also getting a mod slot. THIS IS ONLY A POSSIBILITY. I will say by Friday if it will be 1 or 2.We didn't hear anything about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesability Black Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 'facepaws'The lack of communication with each other is...disconcerting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 Seems like a honest mistake. Friday wasn't too long ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simping For Hina Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 'facepaws' The lack of communication with each other is...disconcerting.Stop acting like the world is falling apart every time something happens on YCM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 'facepaws' The lack of communication with each other is...disconcerting. I think it's understandable. It's just been a day so just asking about it briefly like Black did is a good approach IMO.A day or so of delay is not a huge deal for what was pretty much just an estimate. Things are fiiiiine. xP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 Please be patient and wait for Flame Dragon to make an announcement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted January 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 Sorry about forgetting about the mod number thing. We are going to go with 2 new mods for this. We also won't publicly post the votes since it doesn't seem to be any big need for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 Sorry about forgetting about the mod number thing. We are going to go with 2 new mods for this. We also won't publicly post the votes since it doesn't seem to be any big need for it.Will you post generic stats though? Like which people got eliminated in which round? That would be useful data for future elections, but also won't put voters on the spot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted January 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 Will you post generic stats though? Like which people got eliminated in which round? That would be useful data for future elections, but also won't put voters on the spot? If people want me to, sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 Even if people want it, waiting until the entire thing is over seems for the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted January 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 Even if people want it, waiting until the entire thing is over seems for the best. Yea, I wasn't going to show how the votes broke down until after everything ended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 Yes yes I desperately want stats! (obviously only once the election is over) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted January 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 Friendly reminder that 24 hours remain. Give us like a day to count up the votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 So, a thought came to mind that may have some unattended consequences. Based on how the Alternative Vote is structured, it does well in producing a single winner. As we are doing two winners, that complicates things. If we were to do one count, then whoever wins the majority would influence who gets runner up. Why? Perhaps those higher than the winner/runner-up on some ballots got knocked out early (or those one spot below the winner) would have had some chance at the second spot otherwise. My solution is to do two counts. Do the first count for the first spot, then do a second count with the same ballots, except the first winner would have their name taken out (which would result in everyone lower than the first winner on the ballots to move up one spot). I think this would help minimize the influence of the majority winner on who gets the other spot. And I may just be overthinking, but I do think this is a valid point that should receive some consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 So, a thought came to mind that may have some unattended consequences. Based on how the Alternative Vote is structured, it does well in producing a single winner. As we are doing two winners, that complicates things. If we were to do one count, then whoever wins the majority would influence who gets runner up. Why? Perhaps those higher than the winner/runner-up on some ballots got knocked out early (or those one spot below the winner) would have had some chance at the second spot otherwise. My solution is to do two counts. Do the first count for the first spot, then do a second count with the same ballots, except the first winner would have their name taken out (which would result in everyone lower than the first winner on the ballots to move up one spot). I think this would help minimize the influence of the majority winner on who gets the other spot. And I may just be overthinking, but I do think this is a valid point that should receive some consideration.Literally just process the ballots again after removing the 1st place winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted January 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 That was the plan. Once we went through the process once we'd repeat with the winner removed from all ballots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 Literally just process the ballots again after removing the 1st place winner.That'd be the tl;dr of what I said, so way ahead of you. Flame, glad to hear that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted January 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 And the voting is closed. By my count we had 30 people submit ballots. Give us a day or so to go through it and announce the winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 I've been harshly critical of the mods, so let me be the first to say you guys handled this really well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted January 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 Just did a count. I feel like I'm super live to have made a mistake, so if a 3rd party would be willing to look over my results I'd appreciate it. I'd just remove who it was that submitted the votes. (Part of me still wants to do that publicly just to make sure no mistakes happened when we recorded them) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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