New Staff Member Election

[Sunshine Jesse]

+1 for Black. I'd prefer him over anyone else by a fair margin. He knows his sheet and has rarely (if ever) left a bad impression on me.

 

If you want fresh blood then I don't really know enough about most of the choices to give an informed opinion on the matter. Hina and Fusion stand out, but I can't give a good reason why.

[Blake]

Let me clear this up, considering this entire election was my idea.

 

It was never intended as a withdrawal to your return.  I came up with this literally on the drop of a dime.  I've personally expressed interest in your return, and so have others on the mod team, so I'm not sure where this is coming from.  If you wanna stay out of it, feel free.  But if you think I did this because "I don't want Birdie back", you would be wrong.

She's more just concerned about it because she heard nothing over the span of a month, despite numerous people expressing desire to have her back on the team. It's not targeted blame, and the situation has been discussed in private with a moderator.

 

She just doesn't feel it's fair for her to potentially take someone's slot, when she was given the same offer to return as you, but it ended up being ignored, in comparison to your instant return. Nothing wrong with them doing it for you, just miffs her that she, for some reason, just got... dropped.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

+1 for Black. I'd prefer him over anyone else by a fair margin. He knows his sheet and has rarely (if ever) left a bad impression on me.

 

If you want fresh blood then I don't really know enough about most of the choices to give an informed opinion on the matter. Hina and Fusion stand out, but I can't give a good reason why.

Taking yourself out of running then :/

[Sunshine Jesse]

Taking yourself out of running then :/

Nah, I'd definitely be up for it. I just don't like nominating myself for this kind of thing.

 

I'm otherwise at the top (or, second, as I'd prefer Black over myself) of my own nomination list.

[Blake]

Unofficial count of the nominations thus far, with self-nomination not counted for simplicity's sake. Obviously not guaranteed 100% correct.

 

Order is top to bottom, and if there's a tie, Alphabetical order.

 

Black: 7 

(◊) aka Parenthesis: 7

Lord CowCow: 6

Yui: 5-6 (lost count, unsure if I counted J-Max twice, cba to check atm)

Fusion: 4

Kazooie: 4

Sleepy: 3

Darj: 2

Dova: 2

J-Max: 2

Lambdadelta: 2
Sunshine Jesse: 2

Catterjune: 1

Chaos Sonic: 1

Krow: 1

Order Mario: 1

Striker: 1

VCR_CAT: 1

SK79LinkXyz: -1

[Flame Dragon]

I'm going to add onto this.

 

I'm not participating in the election myself.

 

That's not a maybe thing, that's not an if thing. I'm... A little bothered. It definitely feels like the return offer I had was kinda revoked without saying anything officially, given that radio silence I had gotten when I expressed I was open to returning, as long as it was run by the members first. It kinda pissed me off, and this coming out kinda annoyed me too, cause it feels like the mod team is playing with that by revoking it.

 

I doubt it's intentional. But it leaves me with a bitter feeling in my mouth. I'll return if the members want me, but I don't think it's fair to put me right into an election with other people when I had the position and an offer to return same as Dad did. So please, leave me out of the election. If I return at a later date, great, but this just feels kinda scummy and unfair to me.

 

I think the most we talked about this was Dad saying he was 100% cool with you coming back. When we saw you were serious about coming back to the team we should have had a serious discussion on the topic, but we never did. We should have, and screwed up in not doing so. For that I apologize. You shouldn't have to go through an election process because of that offer, I fully agree with that. At the same time I do feel like just giving a spot back on the team would kind of fly in the face of this whole thing and even if most the members were cool with it it would, understandably, aggravate a number of people. We only have ourselves to blame for putting ourselves in this position, but I'm honestly not sure what the best path would be going forward. Regardless, once again, I apologize.

 

Unofficial count of the nominations thus far, with self-nomination not counted for simplicity's sake.

 

Order is top to bottom, and if there's a tie, Alphabetical order.

 

Black: 7 

(◊) aka Parenthesis: 7

Lord CowCow: 6

Yui: 5-6 (lost count, unsure if I counted J-Max twice, cba to check atm)

Fusion: 4

Kazooie: 4

Sleepy: 3

Darj: 2

Dova: 2

J-Max: 2

Lambdadelta: 2

Sunshine Jesse: 2

Catterjune: 1

Chaos Sonic: 1

Krow: 1

Order Mario: 1

Striker: 1

VCR_CAT: 1

SK79LinkXyz: -1

This is helpful. I feel like the people at +3 recommendations should be the ones we'll put in the first voting poll. Removing Kazooie for above stated reasons the list would be

 

Black

(◊) aka Parenthesis

Lord CowCow

Yui

Fusion

Sleepy

 

We'll give it a little more to see if any of the 2s move up, but does anyone in this group not want the job?

[Yui]

 We'll give it a little more to see if any of the 2s move up, but does anyone in this group not want the job?

Didn't want to bring it up last page, but I don't remember if I had the same invitation to return as Birdie did. If I do, I'd be fine with passing on the election and letting everyone else run in the election as-is, then potentially come in a bit later after all that's settled down depending on if y'all feel you could still use another mod or two.

 

Alternatively you just put me and Birdie back on the team then still elect two new mods to bring in a whole new generation of mods

[Dad]

Alternatively you just put me and Birdie back on the team then still elect two new mods to bring in a whole new generation of mods

 

I would support this.  I'm not going on the record yet, but I do like it.

[J-Max]

Didn't want to bring it up last page, but I don't remember if I had the same invitation to return as Birdie did. If I do, I'd be fine with passing on the election and letting everyone else run in the election as-is, then potentially come in a bit later after all that's settled down depending on if y'all feel you could still use another mod or two.

 

Alternatively you just put me and Birdie back on the team then still elect two new mods to bring in a whole new generation of mods

 

I do agree with this but maybe 3-4 is too many at once.

[(GigaDrillBreaker)]

I do agree with this but maybe 3-4 is too many at once.

Except Yui and Birdie aren't new to the team.

 

They already know how it works. They don't need training. The mod team already knew they were able and trustworthy, and they each left of their own volition. Them returning to the team is completely different from new people being added, whether it happens or not.

[J-Max]

Except Yui and Birdie aren't new to the team.

 

They already know how it works. They don't need training. The mod team already knew they were able and trustworthy, and they each left of their own volition. Them returning to the team is completely different from new people being added, whether it happens or not.

 

Ah, you're right. I apologize. Sounds fine to me then.

[Tesability Black]

I am only bringing this up, because I seem to be a virtual unknown outside of the RP section.

 

Since I am quite literally here almost all the time, due to being disabled and literally being paid by the government to stay home, I can easily fill in as a moderator on this site, counteracting the whole 'real life getting into the way of moderating the site' bit. Yes, I admit to lurking, but I do poke this snout of mine into other areas. In a modship, I would be more active in said poking.

 

Also, if I got in and still failed as a mod despite all the free time, I would willingly let the staff kick my tail off the team without too much issue.

[Kazooie]

Let me clear this up, considering this entire election was my idea.

 

It was never intended as a withdrawal to your return.  I came up with this literally on the drop of a dime.  I've personally expressed interest in your return, and so have others on the mod team, so I'm not sure where this is coming from.  If you wanna stay out of it, feel free.  But if you think I did this because "I don't want Birdie back", you would be wrong.

 

It wasn't directed at you specifically, I wanna just say that, like I said... I don't think it was an intentional thing on the team's part at all, honestly, but that's how it felt to me, and I wanted to make my feelings known, cause I had a tendency to keep 'em to myself and stew in them.

 

I knew you of all people weren't trying to keep me out, Dad, don't worry about that, it was more in a general sense and not directed at any one person in particular. And even then, it was more of a how it felt than how it actually was. 

 

I will say I worded it poorly there, but Yui and Black got the intended message a lot better than I actually said it there. A frustration with the silence after I expressed interest, and thought it was being discussed, kinda led to that. It wasn't meant as a slight towards you at all, and I'm really sorry it came across that way.

 

I think the most we talked about this was Dad saying he was 100% cool with you coming back. When we saw you were serious about coming back to the team we should have had a serious discussion on the topic, but we never did. We should have, and screwed up in not doing so. For that I apologize. You shouldn't have to go through an election process because of that offer, I fully agree with that. At the same time I do feel like just giving a spot back on the team would kind of fly in the face of this whole thing and even if most the members were cool with it it would, understandably, aggravate a number of people. We only have ourselves to blame for putting ourselves in this position, but I'm honestly not sure what the best path would be going forward. Regardless, once again, I apologize.

 

I appreciate the response, Flame. It's a lot easier to process knowing that there hadn't been a serious discussion about it, since I was under the impression it had been brought up seriously.

The clarification is really appreciated and I totally get the concerns, so consider it settled for now. ^^

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

I would support this.  I'm not going on the record yet, but I do like it.

Does Black count as new?

I do agree with this but maybe 3-4 is too many at once.

Also Night doesn't exist

[J-Max]

 

Also Night doesn't exist

 

Have to agree there. Haven't seen Night around at all since my return.

[Tourmaline]

 

I think the most we talked about this was Dad saying he was 100% cool with you coming back. When we saw you were serious about coming back to the team we should have had a serious discussion on the topic, but we never did. We should have, and screwed up in not doing so. For that I apologize. You shouldn't have to go through an election process because of that offer, I fully agree with that. At the same time I do feel like just giving a spot back on the team would kind of fly in the face of this whole thing and even if most the members were cool with it it would, understandably, aggravate a number of people. We only have ourselves to blame for putting ourselves in this position, but I'm honestly not sure what the best path would be going forward. Regardless, once again, I apologize.

 

 

This is helpful. I feel like the people at +3 recommendations should be the ones we'll put in the first voting poll. Removing Kazooie for above stated reasons the list would be

 

Black

(◊) aka Parenthesis

Lord CowCow

Yui

Fusion

Sleepy

 

We'll give it a little more to see if any of the 2s move up, but does anyone in this group not want the job?

I'd like to remind you that Dad, Winter and Halubaris all express unequivocal support and I'm not willing to let the mere placement of Winter's voicing it discount him from attesting to support for me, Jesse being a maybe fourth for this.

 

Also, Black is a former moderator like Yui and Aubrey, who were thus removed from the list.

[LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow]

Also, Black is a former moderator like Yui and Aubrey, who were thus removed from the list.

Bree was removed due to her asking for it to be so.

 

Speaking of...

 

 

The clarification is really appreciated and I totally get the concerns, so consider it settled for now. ^^

EVERYONE

LOOK AT THIS PLOT ARC RESOLUTION

LOOK AT IT

 

This is why Dad and Flame are good eggs.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Hina got more votes than Fusion or sleepy (4 right now)

[(GigaDrillBreaker)]

I think that an important thing to consider as this begins to narrow down is exactly why this position(s) is opening up.

 

Recently, but most pointedly over the last year, the mod team has had incredible issues communicating with the community. Mistakes were made, and the way these were handled drove a wedge between the staff and the community they serve. Rather than make changes, the team often hunkered down in their decisions, they resisted outside influence and allowed themselves to stagnate. That is why this thread, and the two previous, are so important, as they signal a willingness of the entire team to make these changes that need to happen.

 

What the site needs right now isn't someone who can manage lots of moving parts. The team already has that. Reports get resolved quickly, technical issues are met with the best efforts possible, et cetera. They don't need a fair judge, nor any form of expert. These things are great to have on the team, but not what this thread is about, at least as I see it.

 

What the team needs is someone who can drive change. There have been countless threads by members trying to push to fix these issues between the community and the staff, and that's why I brought forth CowCow and Black. Look in just about any of these threads over the last year, and you'll find both of them. In their current state, they have been pushing to improve the site, and the mere existence of this thread shows that it worked.

 

Now, in my initial post I also brought up both Sleepy and Fusion. They have each touched down briefly in the previously mentioned threads, but honestly the reason I bring them forward is because of how positive they are for the community. I have not had negative interactions with either of them a single time since I joined this community, however many years ago. Over this last year, the mod team has been varying degrees of rude, mocking, and disrespectful, and I can't imagine either of these two being such for an instant. I'm not saying that every single mod needs to always get along with everyone perfectly, because that's an unrealistic expectatio, but it's important that they are available to members not as powers, but as equals.

 

At the end of the day, we are all the same thing. People who want this site to be better. The members and mods may go at this goal from different angles, but I think that whomever may be promoted should be someone who is willing to do so from either side of the divide. If someone is only there to help if they are given power, that power has better places to be.

[Blake]

Hina got more votes than Fusion or sleepy (4 right now)

 

I missed Jesse’s additional votes, sorry. That puts Hina up to 3 and Fusion up to 5.

 

However, the only mentions of Hina are from you, Halu, Hina herself (which no one had their self-nom in the above list), and Jesse. That’s onl 3.

[Tourmaline]

 

I missed Jesse’s additional votes, sorry. That puts Hina up to 3 and Fusion up to 5.

 

However, the only mentions of Hina are from you, Halu, Hina herself (which no one had their self-nom in the above list), and Jesse. That’s onl 3.

Dad always expresses strong support and said he'd vote for me numerous times throughout the months without ever wavering, so I considered him. I'm sure he'd agree if asked.

[Mr. Best Male 2008]

- Krow 4 mod No.

 

wtf man that's throwing some hands

[Blake]

Dad always expresses strong support and said he'd vote for me numerous times throughout the months without ever wavering, so I considered him. I'm sure he'd agree if asked.

 

Don’t you think that it would have been said at this point, if moderators could nominate people?

 

He said she said, with backup or not, has no bearing on this thread. You’re over the threshold they set, anyway.

[Tourmaline]

Don’t you think that it would have been said at this point, if moderators could nominate people?

 

He said she said, with backup or not, has no bearing on this thread. You’re over the threshold they set, anyway.

Understood. I overlooked his moderator position and its dynamic with voting eligibility.

[Phantom Roxas]

I don't believe I've supported Sunshine Jesse yet, so I'll give another vote to bump Jesse up to +3.