Ryusei the Morning Star Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 http://blog.livedoor.jp/maxut/archives/51171926.html Grandsoil has been errata'd in OCG to be Hard OPT OCG has it at 3, and it will likely stay that way now, but TCG recently banned it for a loop, so an unban is likely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 I love it when this card is fair. Totally sweet in zoodiac, as well as dumb sheet like rank 8 scraps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted December 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 I love it when this card is fair. Totally sweet in zoodiac, as well as dumb sheet like rank 8 scraps.Enjoy waiting....3 years for TCG to get the errata *stares longingly at OCG CED errata* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 lol they nerf-errata'd an unlimited card. Is that a first? But yeah, I approve of this errata. Doesn't change normal functionality, just stops the dumb loopy s*** that was unacceptable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted December 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 lol they nerf-errata'd an unlimited card. Is that a first? But yeah, I approve of this errata. Doesn't change normal functionality, just stops the dumb loopy s*** that was unacceptableNah, did something similar with catapult turtle back in the day They've actually done it a fair bit, remember toon world? They just didn't wanna ban it most likely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 They've actually done it a fair bit, remember toon world?I remember Toon World. That Continuous Spell that pays 1000 LP to activate it for no effect, but you need it to play Toons. Are you telling me that it got a nerf-errata? What did it do before that was so degenerate that it had its entire text box removed forever? Don't tell me it was only 500 LP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted December 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 I remember Toon World. That Continuous Spell that pays 1000 LP to activate it for no effect, but you need it to play Toons. Are you telling me that it got a nerf-errata? What did it do before that was so degenerate that it had its entire text box removed forever? Don't tell me it was only 500 LP.The text of Toon world is unclear.It doesn't specify life points paid for THIS card You could do silly things from there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snatch Steal Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 The text of Toon world is unclear.It doesn't specify life points paid for THIS card You could do silly things from thereDo you have an example? I’m not familiar with how toon world works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 Do you have an example? I’m not familiar with how toon world works.It was something like this if I recall: Pay 1000 LP to activate this card. While this card is on the field, pay 500 LP during each Standby Phase or destroy this card. When this card is destroyed and sent to the Graveyard, gain all LP back from when this card was first activated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snatch Steal Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 It was something like this if I recall: Pay 1000 LP to activate this card. While this card is on the field, pay 500 LP during each Standby Phase or destroy this card. When this card is destroyed and sent to the Graveyard, gain all LP back from when this card was first activated I'm don't know what interaction paying LP has with other cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 Was that toon world thing only for OCG? Because I have several copies of SDP toon world and if they don't just say "Pay 1000 LP to activate this card" or however that would have been worded in medeival times, my life is basically a lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 Was that toon world thing only for OCG? Because I have several copies of SDP toon world and if they don't just say "Pay 1000 LP to activate this card" or however that would have been worded in medeival times, my life is basically a lie.yeah it was OCG only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 Oh, I got it. It's a regular errata, not the kind that they put on banned cards. I was starting to wonder if Toon World had gotten an extra effect or reduced cost or something."Pay 1000 LP" is technically one single solid spelled word, making it technically less words than Pot of Greed, unless you count the meaning of LP. Now they just said "to activate this card". Ok. As for Grandsoil, people usually only used it in loops, but I'm glad there are less loops. I approve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted December 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 Oh, I got it. It's a regular errata, not the kind that they put on banned cards. I was starting to wonder if Toon World had gotten an extra effect or reduced cost or something."Pay 1000 LP" is technically one single solid spelled word, making it technically less words than Pot of Greed, unless you count the meaning of LP. Now they just said "to activate this card". Ok. As for Grandsoil, people usually only used it in loops, but I'm glad there are less loops. I approve.No, TW used to allow you to gain back all the LP you pay after it's activated. Solemn Judgement and Injection fairly lily ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 No, TW used to allow you to gain back all the LP you pay after it's activated. Solemn Judgement and Injection fairly lily ;) Never heard of this before and my first purchase in the game was SDP. o_O There's no reference to it on the Wikia in OCG rulings or as a separate lore/errata, but sure enough if you look through the gallery there are Japanese versions of Toon World that look like they say a fair amount more than "Pay 1000 LP". Pretty nutty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted December 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 Never heard of this before and my first purchase in the game was SDP. o_O There's no reference to it on the Wikia in OCG rulings or as a separate lore/errata, but sure enough if you look through the gallery there are Japanese versions of Toon World that look like they say a fair amount more than "Pay 1000 LP". Pretty nutty. Used to be retarded, and even got banned for a while. TW was errata'd due to confusion on if you could gain back LP paid for other cards. At the time you could. Pretty good backup play to heavy storm for example. Heavy and you end up gaining back 4k LP lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 Never heard of this before and my first purchase in the game was SDP. o_O There's no reference to it on the Wikia in OCG rulings or as a separate lore/errata, but sure enough if you look through the gallery there are Japanese versions of Toon World that look like they say a fair amount more than "Pay 1000 LP". Pretty nutty. I was thinking "where have I heard that before", and I now realized. It is part of the set of 15 cards that predate the actual formalization of the game.Raigeki, Toon World, Sparks, Curry, some of those Type-killer spells, and IDK what else, that were collector's items before Konami decided to pick Yugioh as an actual official trading card game from where Bandai had left it off. I'm saying this off the top of my head, and I feel I should be looking it up but maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 I believe it was also a part of the actual game too (at least in the OCG), as that version of Toon World was in the Japanese version of Pharoah's Servant (and not Magic/Spell Ruler as it is in the TCG, interestingly). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted December 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 I believe it was also a part of the actual game too (at least in the OCG), as that version of Toon World was in the Japanese version of Pharoah's Servant (and not Magic/Spell Ruler as it is in the TCG, interestingly). Yeah, it saw play to a degree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokutah Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 Wait wait...so you telling us Winter that in this game more chaothic past Toon World old wording can be abuse to make LP paying effects a infinite LP gain? I need to hear the whole story. Genuinely interested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted December 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 Wait wait...so you telling us Winter that in this game more chaothic past Toon World old wording can be abuse to make LP paying effects a infinite LP gain?I need to hear the whole story. Genuinely interestedToon world used to require 1000 lp to active and 500 every turn. But if it was destroyed you get to gain back all the LP you've paid since it's activation. Not infinite since you can never pay more than you start with (so caps off at 8k) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 Toon world used to require 1000 lp to active and 500 every turn. But if it was destroyed you get to gain back all the LP you've paid since it's activation. Not infinite since you can never pay more than you start with (so caps off at 8k)I mean, you could break 8k if you played multiple copies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted December 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 I mean, you could break 8k if you played multiple copiesDidn't even think of that tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Jesse Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 Was that toon world thing only for OCG? Because I have several copies of SDP toon world and if they don't just say "Pay 1000 LP to activate this card" or however that would have been worded in medeival times, my life is basically a lie.It was never in the TCG, but I know one of the games that came out state-side still had its original OCG effect. It was weird, too, because the game had the TCG text for Toon World so you didn't know why you were paying 500 LP every turn or getting it all back when the card was destroyed. There was very little quality control for the GBA TCG games in general. Shout-outs to Spellian of Black Chaos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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